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Unread 10/19/2017, 10:06 PM   #2126
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Great thread!

I've read through a lot of it and am confident about setting my quarantine system up. My only question is about biological filtration.

I'm using a HOB filter with ceramic rings and some floss. It will be a permanent QT. I expect there will be a steady stream of fish going through quarantine for a period of time but there will also be periods without fish so no waste to feed the denitrifying bacteria. Is this an issue? Should I dump a prawn in there every week it runs fallow?


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Unread 10/20/2017, 08:28 AM   #2127
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Great thread!

I've read through a lot of it and am confident about setting my quarantine system up. My only question is about biological filtration.

I'm using a HOB filter with ceramic rings and some floss. It will be a permanent QT. I expect there will be a steady stream of fish going through quarantine for a period of time but there will also be periods without fish so no waste to feed the denitrifying bacteria. Is this an issue? Should I dump a prawn in there every week it runs fallow?
You should break down the tank and clean everything thoroughly between tank inhabitants. As far as setting the tank back up for new arrivals and having enough biological filtration I use this product religiously and have never had a issue.https://www.tlc-products.com/startsm...w-tank-set-up/
Use frag20 for 20% off


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Unread 10/20/2017, 05:54 PM   #2128
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Thanks for some really amazing suggestions here. Jbtw I'd also like to add mine suggestions here. I think you guys should go for it and get some really amazing filters and other aquariam stuff over there. https://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/...ic.php?t=41771
I referenced a saltwater product that actually works, you are pushing a freshwater forum or something similar on a saltwater forum...


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Unread 10/23/2017, 12:18 PM   #2129
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Is there any difference, pro/con, in using a powerhead vs an air stone (I'm assuming one needs a pump for the air stone too)?

I picked up a 20 gallon tank and a HOB filter for QT down the road.

Is a 50 Watt heater enough for QT, or better to just get a 100-150 Watt heater and have an extra for back up on main DT?
(Main DT is 150 gal)


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Unread 10/23/2017, 12:37 PM   #2130
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Is there any difference, pro/con, in using a powerhead vs an air stone (I'm assuming one needs a pump for the air stone too)?

I picked up a 20 gallon tank and a HOB filter for QT down the road.

Is a 50 Watt heater enough for QT, or better to just get a 100-150 Watt heater and have an extra for back up on main DT?
(Main DT is 150 gal)


50watts not enough to heat a 20 gallon. If you put a larger heater it will heat up the tank faster and shut off earlier.


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Unread 11/10/2017, 02:39 AM   #2131
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Hi, I am a long time freshwater aquarist but new to the saltwater hobby. I’ve been going through this thread which has absolutely fantastic information about QTs. I have a question about a choice of tank for the QT I would love some feedback on.

My DT is 40 gal (200L) with a 10g sump (40L) - Red Sea Reefer 250. Currently stocked with 2 clownfish, one anemone (not yet adopted), 6 corals and 2 hermit crabs. All healthy with no sign of parasites or disease. It has been running for a little under 3 months and I am planning for the next phase in stocking. Filtration is ~60 lb live rock in the DT, the standard Red Sea sponge, Marine Pure, Polyfilter and Torque skimmer in the sump.

I want to setup a QT for the upcoming livestock and also for use as a HT if and as needed. Due mostly to space limitations in our house I plan to keep to a single tank, and not having it running permanently - run initially whilst stocking, convert to HT if needed and then take it down, clean and rebirth as HT or QT as needed in future. I plan to keep ceramic and other media in the sump seeded and ready to go to reduce cycling in the QT/HT.

I am considering two tanks for QT/HT and would like opinions as to which you would recommend. Both are easy to source in my region (Sydney Australia).

1. Aqua One 320T 36L (9 gal)
2. Aqua One Reflex 35 35L (8 gal)

The former has a hood which appeals to me to reduce evaporation, the latter is open top, making an auto top up more important. Different filtration setups also.

I currently have an older version of the Aqua One 380 which is a similar design to the 320T as my freshwater tank and it is a very robust and reliable tank with good simple and effective filtration, which also leans me towards to the 320T.

Thoughts?

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Unread 11/10/2017, 02:59 AM   #2132
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QT question tank links

Here are links to the tanks.

320: http://www.aquaone.com.au/product-ra.../2950-52090gwh

For some reason Aqua One don’t have the 320T on their site - it is simply a taller version of the 320.

Reflex 35: http://www.aquaone.com.au/2015-04-16...s-aquarium-35l


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Unread 11/11/2017, 07:02 AM   #2133
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Hi, I am a long time freshwater aquarist but new to the saltwater hobby. I’ve been going through this thread which has absolutely fantastic information about QTs. I have a question about a choice of tank for the QT I would love some feedback on.

My DT is 40 gal (200L) with a 10g sump (40L) - Red Sea Reefer 250. Currently stocked with 2 clownfish, one anemone (not yet adopted), 6 corals and 2 hermit crabs. All healthy with no sign of parasites or disease. It has been running for a little under 3 months and I am planning for the next phase in stocking. Filtration is ~60 lb live rock in the DT, the standard Red Sea sponge, Marine Pure, Polyfilter and Torque skimmer in the sump.

I want to setup a QT for the upcoming livestock and also for use as a HT if and as needed. Due mostly to space limitations in our house I plan to keep to a single tank, and not having it running permanently - run initially whilst stocking, convert to HT if needed and then take it down, clean and rebirth as HT or QT as needed in future. I plan to keep ceramic and other media in the sump seeded and ready to go to reduce cycling in the QT/HT.

I am considering two tanks for QT/HT and would like opinions as to which you would recommend. Both are easy to source in my region (Sydney Australia).

1. Aqua One 320T 36L (9 gal)
2. Aqua One Reflex 35 35L (8 gal)

The former has a hood which appeals to me to reduce evaporation, the latter is open top, making an auto top up more important. Different filtration setups also.

I currently have an older version of the Aqua One 380 which is a similar design to the 320T as my freshwater tank and it is a very robust and reliable tank with good simple and effective filtration, which also leans me towards to the 320T.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance, Brad.
bigger the better, having a hood over the tank will increase heat inside the tank and water and also reduce air exchange which could lead to low oxygen and low pH.


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Unread 11/11/2017, 08:28 AM   #2134
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Gmtagging along as I will be setting up a quarantine as well. Good post


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Unread 11/18/2017, 10:59 PM   #2135
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Unread 11/19/2017, 02:22 PM   #2136
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Great thread! it's helped me setup my own QT and figure out what supplies needed. Thanks everyone!


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Unread 12/20/2017, 08:20 AM   #2137
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TTM Quarantining Question

So I am on day 10 of quarantining a lawnmower blenny using the TTM. http://www.tanktransfermethod.com/node/1
Last night was my 3rd transfer and since then I have cleaned all of the equipment and have it set out to dry. But one question comes to mind when drying out the equipment.
The procedures indicate that you are to dry the tank and equipment between transfers for a minimum of 24 hrs and I was wondering if there was a significance to the 24hr time period? Like maybe there a specific amount of time that it takes the Trophont to dry out and die or is it simply an approximated time that is reasonable to assume that everything is dry and the Trophonts are all dead?

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Unread 12/20/2017, 08:47 AM   #2138
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So I am on day 10 of quarantining a lawnmower blenny using the TTM. http://www.tanktransfermethod.com/node/1
Last night was my 3rd transfer and since then I have cleaned all of the equipment and have it set out to dry. But one question comes to mind when drying out the equipment.
The procedures indicate that you are to dry the tank and equipment between transfers for a minimum of 24 hrs and I was wondering if there was a significance to the 24hr time period? Like maybe there a specific amount of time that it takes the Trophont to dry out and die or is it simply an approximated time that is reasonable to assume that everything is dry and the Trophonts are all dead?

Thank in advance,
Tom
You are correct, the reason you want it dry for 24 hours is some things can't survive. Namely, I know the Tank Transfer Method is used for marine Ich. If its dry for that long, the Ich won't survive. It is an overshoot of the actual likely required time to be safe.


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Unread 02/09/2018, 04:44 PM   #2139
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Sorry to ask what is the ATO that you mentioned at the beginning that I might need in my QT tank?


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Unread 02/12/2018, 07:27 PM   #2140
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Sorry to ask what is the ATO that you mentioned at the beginning that I might need in my QT tank?
Automatic top off system. This system will replace evaporated water in tank with fresh ro-di water.
Because qt is a small system with higher load it's best to replace evaporated water right away via ato so there is minimal salinity shock.


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Is ParaGuard by Seachem a good product to use for the first two weeks in my QT?


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Unread 02/17/2018, 05:19 PM   #2143
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Is ParaGuard by Seachem a good product to use for the first two weeks in my QT?
Yes you can use paraguard. Make sure not to use too many meds in the tank at same time.
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Unread 03/07/2018, 01:02 AM   #2144
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Dr Reef, thanks for the reply. I went with the (partially) open top Reflex 35 option and it has worked very well, allowed me to hide the hardware, mount a fan and ATO. Here is a photo for anyone who is interested.

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Dr Reef, thanks for the reply. I went with the (partially) open top Reflex 35 option and it has worked very well, allowed me to hide the hardware, mount a fan and ATO. Here is a photo for anyone who is interested.

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Unread 04/23/2018, 09:41 PM   #2146
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Hello I am new to this site and saltwater tanks I made a post on a blog I believe and cannot seem to find it or see if someone wrote back also I wanted to make a blog because my fish is looking like he is maybe sick I just got him a few days ago and I think he maybe has itch or velv. I don’t remember seeing these dots on him before and he is not really acting the same or maybe I’m paranoid and panicking but just want to make sure he is ok please private message me I at least know how to find that thanks 🙏


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Unread 11/04/2018, 11:33 PM   #2147
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Marinepure & prazipro

I plan on using marinepure from my refugium into a newly setup QT. While there, I’ll be treating with prazipro. Should I be worried about it leaching back into my DT when finished? Anyone drying it out before putting it back into their sump? Or just rinsing (rodi or salt water?)? Thanks.


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Unread 11/22/2018, 11:08 PM   #2148
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I just setup a 20 gallon QT tank with a HOB filter with floss, powerhead, heater, and lights put a piece of cooked shrimp in it for about 24 hours and the water is really cloudy. I removed the shrimp as I think this is an indication of an ammonia spike? I have no idea.

Where does this magical bacteria come from? My entire QT tank is completely new. The water was RO/DI mixed with IO salt to 1.026...will the bacteria appear? Where does it come from? I'm thinking of getting some of that StartSmart stuff. Was having the shrimp in there one day long enough? I'm currently setting up a 100g DT with a 40g sump. The QT tank is in anticipation of residents within the next few months.

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Unread 11/22/2018, 11:34 PM   #2149
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Where does this magical bacteria come from? My entire QT tank is completely new. The water was RO/DI mixed with IO salt to 1.026...will the bacteria appear? Where does it come from? I'm thinking of getting some of that StartSmart stuff. Was having the shrimp in there one day long enough? I'm currently setting up a 100g DT with a 40g sump. The QT tank is in anticipation of residents within the next few months.
Best bet is to buy some bacteria in a bottle (e.g. Bio-spira), and use that to cycle your QT. You can dose a little ammonium hydroxide to test out the capabilities of your QT's biofilter: https://www.hamzasreef.com/Contents/...niaCycling.php

If your QT can process 1-2ppm within 24 hours, you are good to go. Ace Janitorial Strength Ammonia is what I use (contains no surfactants): https://www.acehardware.com/departme...cleaners/10183


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Unread 11/23/2018, 12:22 AM   #2150
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Bacteria in a bottle will certainly speed things up, and I use it too, but it is not absolutely necessary. Bacteria is everywhere and the QT will self speed without any other additions - just takes longer. Airborne bacteria will just move on in over time.


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