Clownfish Variety ID

BadgeNC · 01/17/2017, 09:38 PM

I picked up this pair of clowns from a local reefer. Just wondering what the variety is. Not sure if these are black ice snowflakes or premium picasso clowns (or something else)?

Any experts that can ID them?

BadgeNC · 01/18/2017, 11:30 AM

Bump - if anyone knows the variety, I'm curious.

OllieNZ · 01/18/2017, 11:55 AM

I'm far from expert but they appear to be ocellaris which would rule out Picasso. Definitely a snowflake of some description. Can't be more help than that sorry.

Fishkeeper44 · 01/21/2017, 12:47 AM

Looks like black ice snowflakes to me

worm5406 · 01/21/2017, 04:49 PM

Agree looks like Black Ice.

OrionN · 01/21/2017, 06:28 PM

It also can be a Snow-Onyx. My SnowOnyx looks just like that

OurCoralReef · 01/21/2017, 10:59 PM

Looks like black ice snowflake to me maybe even a premium black ice snowflake those two dots by the tail are called bullet holes
Very nice fish

OrionN · 01/22/2017, 08:37 AM

Here is my Snow Onyx which I raised from a Snowflakes and an Rod Onyx

And here are my Black Snowflakes. Got from a friend when they are about 1/2 inches. Mature now

If your fish are mature fish, there is no way that they can be Black Snowflakes (Black Ice). However they have too much black to be Ocellaris. That leave one option, they are cross between Snowflakes Ocellaris and some Percula somewhere in there genes.

SnowOnyx or SnowflakeXPercula. Most likely SnowOnyx

OurCoralReef · 01/23/2017, 10:56 AM

Here is a screen shot from ora i think it looks very similar to the black ice snowflake and since the last two bars are connected and there is some more white it makes it a premium

How did you get to your conclusion

OrionN · 01/23/2017, 12:22 PM

I guess it could be a Black Ice, which I think a cross of Black Ocellaris with orange Ocellaris. The different between Black Ice Snowflakes, which have murky, chocolate color orange, versus a Snow Onyx Snowflakes, which have clear orange and black border and much brighter orange.

OP, is the orange color on your fish is orange or murky color?

These day with breeders and reefers cross breed everything under the sun, it is impossible to be sure.

davocean · 01/23/2017, 12:28 PM

I agree it certainly is getting harder to ID w/ all the mixes, but they do look like black ice snowflakes to me, and very pretty!

OrionN · 01/23/2017, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OurCoralReef

Here is a screen shot from ora i think it looks very similar to the black ice snowflake and since the last two bars are connected and there is some more white it makes it a premium

How did you get to your conclusion

Sorry, I was thinking that Black Snowflakes and Black Ice is the same. When I read your post, I went and read a bit more about Black Ice and find that is a cross of Orange Ocellaris and Black Ocellaris (Which I know as Chocolate/Mocha Ocelaris) rather than Black Ice. I just did not know what is a Black Ice Snowflakes is the same as Chocolate/Mocha Snowflakes.

BadgeNC · 01/26/2017, 06:22 AM

Thanks for all the help guys. I agree they look like black ice snowflakes too, and it's getting harder to ID all these cross-breeds.

01/17/2017, 09:38 PM	#1
BadgeNC Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 87	Clownfish Variety ID I picked up this pair of clowns from a local reefer. Just wondering what the variety is. Not sure if these are black ice snowflakes or premium picasso clowns (or something else)? Any experts that can ID them? __________________ ---- Current Tank Info: 120 gal mixed reef w/39 gal emerald sump - pair snowflake clowns, blue hippo tang, sailfin tang, neon dottyback, pajama cardinals, lyretail anthias, coral-banded shrimp, fire shrimp, reef lobstser, urchin, goatfish, cleaner wrasse, green mandarin

01/18/2017, 11:30 AM	#2
BadgeNC Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 87	Bump - if anyone knows the variety, I'm curious. __________________ ---- Current Tank Info: 120 gal mixed reef w/39 gal emerald sump - pair snowflake clowns, blue hippo tang, sailfin tang, neon dottyback, pajama cardinals, lyretail anthias, coral-banded shrimp, fire shrimp, reef lobstser, urchin, goatfish, cleaner wrasse, green mandarin

01/18/2017, 11:55 AM	#3
OllieNZ Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 569	I'm far from expert but they appear to be ocellaris which would rule out Picasso. Definitely a snowflake of some description. Can't be more help than that sorry. __________________ "Perhaps it is boredom, not intelligence, that has propelled humans up the evolutionary ladder." _________ Reefed out

01/21/2017, 04:49 PM	#5
worm5406 Not afriad to admit wrong Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: South of WashDC in Maryland Posts: 7,774	Agree looks like Black Ice. __________________ Stock:LPS/SPS\|1 hippo\|4 OC Clown\|4 Pepp shrimp\|2 Brittle Star\|3000+ Copepods\|10+ MiniBrittle\|8+ Bristle Worm\|2 Anemone\|100+ mini-feather\|4 boys 14,21,22,22 Current Tank Info: Tank:300g Mixed Reef 300+lb LR\|4" LS\|5x MP40W\|75g fuge\|5x RadionPRO\|RO DB250 skimmer\|Apex

01/21/2017, 06:28 PM	#6
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	It also can be a Snow-Onyx. My SnowOnyx looks just like that __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

01/21/2017, 12:47 AM	#4
Fishkeeper44 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 123	Looks like black ice snowflakes to me

01/21/2017, 10:59 PM	#7
OurCoralReef In Memoriam Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: NY Posts: 363	Clownfish Variety ID Looks like black ice snowflake to me maybe even a premium black ice snowflake those two dots by the tail are called bullet holes Very nice fish

01/22/2017, 08:37 AM	#8
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	Here is my Snow Onyx which I raised from a Snowflakes and an Rod Onyx And here are my Black Snowflakes. Got from a friend when they are about 1/2 inches. Mature now If your fish are mature fish, there is no way that they can be Black Snowflakes (Black Ice). However they have too much black to be Ocellaris. That leave one option, they are cross between Snowflakes Ocellaris and some Percula somewhere in there genes. SnowOnyx or SnowflakeXPercula. Most likely SnowOnyx __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

01/23/2017, 10:56 AM	#9
OurCoralReef In Memoriam Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: NY Posts: 363	Here is a screen shot from ora i think it looks very similar to the black ice snowflake and since the last two bars are connected and there is some more white it makes it a premium How did you get to your conclusion

01/23/2017, 12:22 PM	#10
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	I guess it could be a Black Ice, which I think a cross of Black Ocellaris with orange Ocellaris. The different between Black Ice Snowflakes, which have murky, chocolate color orange, versus a Snow Onyx Snowflakes, which have clear orange and black border and much brighter orange. OP, is the orange color on your fish is orange or murky color? These day with breeders and reefers cross breed everything under the sun, it is impossible to be sure. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

01/23/2017, 12:28 PM	#11
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	I agree it certainly is getting harder to ID w/ all the mixes, but they do look like black ice snowflakes to me, and very pretty! __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

01/26/2017, 06:22 AM	#13
BadgeNC Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 87	Thanks for all the help guys. I agree they look like black ice snowflakes too, and it's getting harder to ID all these cross-breeds. __________________ ---- Current Tank Info: 120 gal mixed reef w/39 gal emerald sump - pair snowflake clowns, blue hippo tang, sailfin tang, neon dottyback, pajama cardinals, lyretail anthias, coral-banded shrimp, fire shrimp, reef lobstser, urchin, goatfish, cleaner wrasse, green mandarin