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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by pdiehm

the plan is a 110 gallon long tank (60x18x23), with a 40-55 gallon sump (unsure about this). I'm in the process of developing a stock plan so I can figure out how to design my tank setup and layout.

I'm willing to forgo the wrasse to keep the diadem pseudochromis. As far as I know, and can tell should be ok with the yellow eye kole, gobie (or gobies), the cardinalfish, clowns.

I saw a video of a gobie pairing up with a shrimp, which I found cool as hell.

As I mentioned, diadem pseudochromis is an aggressive fish and likely not a good tank mate. But, it is your tank . . .

[pdiehm]

Originally Posted by snorvich

As I mentioned, diadem pseudochromis is an aggressive fish and likely not a good tank mate. But, it is your tank . . .

so would you skip that species all together then, and add in a wrasse? Would i be able to add in say 2 gobies, and 2 wrasse? or is it better to have 1 of each?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by pdiehm

so would you skip that species all together then, and add in a wrasse? Would i be able to add in say 2 gobies, and 2 wrasse? or is it better to have 1 of each?

The only pseudochromis I would consider is P. fridmani. But it is impossible to answer a generic question about gobies and wrasses without an entire stocking plan and the specific species. Gobies are not all alike nor are wrasses. However for follow up questions, please provide entire stocking plan and tank size so I do not have to go backwards in this thread.

[pdiehm]

Originally Posted by snorvich

The only pseudochromis I would consider is P. fridmani. But it is impossible to answer a generic question about gobies and wrasses without an entire stocking plan and the specific species. Gobies are not all alike nor are wrasses. However for follow up questions, please provide entire stocking plan and tank size so I do not have to go backwards in this thread.

110 gallon (60x18x23)
40-55 gallon sump
bean style overflow - 1" bulkheads
coast to coast overflow box (planned)

Stock of fish that caught my eye while browsing liveaquaria and vividaquarium

2 clowns
one-spot foxface
lemonpeel dwarf angel
Royal gramma
Black Sailfin Blenny
Pearly Jawfish Gobie
Flame Hawkfish
Yellow Eye Kole Tang
Pearl Scale Butterfly
School of Longspine Cardinalfish

Wrasse that caught my eye:
Red-Lined
Adorned

Gobies that caught my eye:
Neon Goby
Orange Spotted Goby

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by pdiehm

110 gallon (60x18x23)
40-55 gallon sump
bean style overflow - 1" bulkheads
coast to coast overflow box (planned)

Stock of fish that caught my eye while browsing liveaquaria and vividaquarium

2 clowns assuming A. percula or A. ocellaris, should be fine. More aggressive species, not so fine.
one-spot foxface
lemonpeel dwarf angel
Royal gramma
Black Sailfin Blenny
Pearly Jawfish Gobie
Flame Hawkfish not shrimp safe
Yellow Eye Kole Tang
Pearl Scale Butterfly
School of Longspine Cardinalfish they will initially aggregate, then pair off; more nocturnal than not

Wrasse that caught my eye:
Red-Lined
Adorned slightly on the aggressive side

Gobies that caught my eye:
Neon Goby short lived, but excellent
Orange Spotted Goby combine with alpheus randall pistol shrimp

[Plainswalker]

Reconsidering the anthias harem, but I'm wondering about your opinion on a different list now:

Proposed additions:
Melanurus wrasse
Bartlett anthias
Blue-green chromis

90g tank, 48x18x24. This is a mixed reef with SPS/LPS/softies and a clam.

Inhabitants:
kole yellow eye tang
pair of ocellaris clowns
McCosker's wrassse
Lubbock's fairy wrasse
yellow coris wrasse
tailspot blenny
yellow watchman/tiger pistol pair
2 cleaner shrimp

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Plainswalker

Reconsidering the anthias harem, but I'm wondering about your opinion on a different list now:

Proposed additions:
Melanurus wrasse not shrimp safe (you have two)
Bartlett anthias
Blue-green chromis must quarantine as they are highly susceptible to uronema marinum

90g tank, 48x18x24. This is a mixed reef with SPS/LPS/softies and a clam.

Inhabitants:
kole yellow eye tang
pair of ocellaris clowns
McCosker's wrassse
Lubbock's fairy wrasse
yellow coris wrasse
tailspot blenny
yellow watchman/tiger pistol pair
2 cleaner shrimp

[Plainswalker]

Would it be an issue if I mixed and matched single anthias?

Proposed addition:
Lyretail anthias
Bartlett anthias

Originally Posted by Plainswalker

Reconsidering the anthias harem, but I'm wondering about your opinion on a different list now:

Proposed additions:
Melanurus wrasse
Bartlett anthias
Blue-green chromis

90g tank, 48x18x24. This is a mixed reef with SPS/LPS/softies and a clam.

Inhabitants:
kole yellow eye tang
pair of ocellaris clowns
McCosker's wrassse
Lubbock's fairy wrasse
yellow coris wrasse
tailspot blenny
yellow watchman/tiger pistol pair
2 cleaner shrimp

[JMorris271]

As first fish in QT going in new dank just being built? ET finish of tnk about 3 wks

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Plainswalker

Would it be an issue if I mixed and matched single anthias?

Proposed addition:
Lyretail anthias
Bartlett anthias

probably fine

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by JMorris271

As first fish in QT going in new dank just being built? ET finish of tnk about 3 wks

in order to give you an intelligent answer, I would need tank size and planned stocking list.

[Washout]

Hi I am in the middle of cycling a 145 gallon, 48"x26.5"x26". I posted a list about this tank a few weeks ago, but I have a better idea of what I want to add to this tank. I would like to know a good order for these as well if possible. I will be setting up a QT tank as well.

Details
145 gallon, 48"x26.5"x26"
40 gallon refugium
120 pounds of live rock
2.5" sand bed

This is generally a list of wants, not needs. I can scratch any off this list if you don't think it would work.

Pair of Black Ocellaris Clowns
3-4 Anthias, not 100% sure on which breeds, but ones with peaceful temperament (open to suggestions)
3-4 Wrasses, again not 100% sure on breed, but again peaceful temperament (open to suggestions)
Pair of Bangaii Cardinals (Currently residing in my 20 and eating frozen brine)
Diamond Watchman Goby
Midas Blenny
Bicolor Blenny
Flame Hawkfish (my favourite fish)
Chevron Tang
Yellow Tang
Green Mandarin(once I am comfortable with my pod population, not for SEVERAL months)

I am guessing that most of those fish with the exception of the yellow tang have a very peaceful temperament. I also would like to have a tank mate to keep aptasia under control if there is ever a problem, I have considered a CBB, however I just haven't found enough success stories of this fish surviving in captivity, I'll only consider it if I can find a fat one at a LFS which I know is eating. Which leaves me with Peppermint Shrimp, by the looks of my stocking wishes, I don't think I have anything that would eat the shrimp correct, maybe the hawkfish?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Washout

Hi I am in the middle of cycling a 145 gallon, 48"x26.5"x26". I posted a list about this tank a few weeks ago, but I have a better idea of what I want to add to this tank. I would like to know a good order for these as well if possible. I will be setting up a QT tank as well.

Details
145 gallon, 48"x26.5"x26"
40 gallon refugium
120 pounds of live rock
2.5" sand bed

This is generally a list of wants, not needs. I can scratch any off this list if you don't think it would work.

Pair of Black Ocellaris Clowns
3-4 Anthias, not 100% sure on which breeds, but ones with peaceful temperament (open to suggestions)
3-4 Wrasses, again not 100% sure on breed, but again peaceful temperament (open to suggestions)
Pair of Bangaii Cardinals (Currently residing in my 20 and eating frozen brine)
Diamond Watchman Goby
Midas Blenny may nip fins of planktivores
Bicolor Blenny
Flame Hawkfish (my favourite fish) not shrimp safe
Chevron Tang
Yellow Tang must be last fish added
Green Mandarin(once I am comfortable with my pod population, not for SEVERAL months)

I am guessing that most of those fish with the exception of the yellow tang have a very peaceful temperament. I also would like to have a tank mate to keep aptasia under control if there is ever a problem, I have considered a CBB, however I just haven't found enough success stories of this fish surviving in captivity, I'll only consider it if I can find a fat one at a LFS which I know is eating.

CBB may more may not eat aiptasia, and in fact may or may not eat at all. There are butterfly fish that will, but\ they are not coral or shrimp safe.

Which leaves me with Peppermint Shrimp, by the looks of my stocking wishes, I don't think I have anything that would eat the shrimp correct? No. Red flame hawkfish love to eat shrimp

[JMorris271]

Originally Posted by snorvich

in order to give you an intelligent answer, I would need tank size and planned stocking list.

I appreciate that. Tank is to be a 75 gal. mix with lps and softie. nems later

Fish list;

centrohge lorica
centrohge argi
synchiopus ocellantus
chromis nitida
priolepis nocturna X2

Thanks Steve

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by JMorris271

I appreciate that. Tank is to be a 75 gal. mix with lps and softie. nems later

Fish list;

centrohge lorica I assume you mean centropyge
centrohge argi
synchiopus ocellantus
chromis nitida
priolepis nocturna X2

Thanks Steve

Should be fine but dwarf angels are not going to be "coral safe" and should be introduced concurrently

[Tvarr]

I have a 75 gallon tank that will have sand and live rock as well as a 20g sump/ref. We, my two daughters and I, are starting to pick out fish. Any and all suggestions would be helpful here. We are new to this and reading until our eyes glaze over. The only must have is a Mandarin either spotted or green. I know this takes an established tank with copepods in abundance. The plan is to get the tank and rock up and established then to slowly add fish and eventually the mandarin after a few months.

This fish my daughters are looking at are:
A Foxface Lo (Siganus vulpinus)
A male Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis)
A pair of Ocellaris Clownfish, Tank Bred (Amphiprion ocellaris)
A Pink Spotted Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus leptocephalus)
A Yellowtail Damselfish (Chrysiptera parasema)

The questions are:
1. Are these fish compatible?
2. Are there any issues with their diets?
3. Is this selection of 7 fish too much / too few for a 75g tank?
4. What am I not seeing?

Lastly, I have read a ton on quarantining. The one issue I can't seem to find discussed is can you/is it acceptable to quarantine together in a 20g QT tank multiple fish (say the two clowns and the Foxface) purchased from the same place? While we are not in a huge hurry we are trying to cut down on the 4 to 6 week QT per fish.

[Rognin]

Back a second time!!

Transfering the current fish I have from my old to my new tank.

Tank:
145gal (57x20x30)
28gal sump
Deltec SC2060 skimmer
100lbs DR
57lb Jakarta LR
~75lbs of white ciment and DR
120lbs live sand

Current stocking going into the new tank:
-2 chromis
-2 bangaii cardinals
-1 yellow watchman gobie
-2 fancy ocellaris

Fish I want to add:
-1 Kole tang
-1 Powder blue
-1 Powder brown
-1 Yellow Tang
-1 Sixline Wrasse
-1 Copperband butterfly(I have plenty of aiptasia and majano on my 2 year old LR)
-1 One Spot Foxface
-3-5 Anthias (dunno which yet)
-1-2 firefish
-1 Sailfin Blenny

Thanks!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Tvarr

I have a 75 gallon tank that will have sand and live rock as well as a 20g sump/ref. We, my two daughters and I, are starting to pick out fish. Any and all suggestions would be helpful here. We are new to this and reading until our eyes glaze over. The only must have is a Mandarin either spotted or green. I know this takes an established tank with copepods in abundance. The plan is to get the tank and rock up and established then to slowly add fish and eventually the mandarin after a few months.

This fish my daughters are looking at are:
A Foxface Lo (Siganus vulpinus)
A male Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis)
A pair of Ocellaris Clownfish, Tank Bred (Amphiprion ocellaris)
A Pink Spotted Watchman Goby (Cryptocentrus leptocephalus)
A Yellowtail Damselfish (Chrysiptera parasema)

A good plan; be aware the Foxface is venomous

The questions are:
1. Are these fish compatible? yes
2. Are there any issues with their diets? as a fox face is an algae eater, it should be added down the line to insure algae is established; and supplementing with nori would be desirable
3. Is this selection of 7 fish too much / too few for a 75g tank? should be fine
4. What am I not seeing?

Lastly, I have read a ton on quarantining. The one issue I can't seem to find discussed is can you/is it acceptable to quarantine together in a 20g QT tank multiple fish (say the two clowns and the Foxface) purchased from the same place? While we are not in a huge hurry we are trying to cut down on the 4 to 6 week QT per fish. while not the subject of this thread (which is marine fish compatibility), I have a quarantine protocol in my blog that will eliminate ich from the picture completely and will avoid introduction of one of the more deadly. You need to know, however, if your source of fish has a low level, non-therapeutic dose in their system.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Rognin

Back a second time!!

Transfering the current fish I have from my old to my new tank.

Tank:
145gal
28gal sump
Deltec SC2060 skimmer
100lbs DR
57lb Jakarta LR
~75lbs of white ciment and DR
120lbs live sand

Current stocking going into the new tank:
-2 chromis
-2 bangaii cardinals
-1 yellow watchman gobie
-2 fancy ocellaris

Fish I want to add:
-1 Kole tang
-1 Powder blue
-1 Powder brown
-1 Yellow Tang Only two tangs in this sized tank; the kole is ideal, plus one other. Especially true with another largish algae grazer
-1 Sixline Wrasse aggressive and will not be compatible with some tank mates
-1 Copperband butterfly(I have plenty of aiptasia and majano on my 2 year old LR) may or may not eat aiptasia; the more likely one to work is the one sourced from Australia
-1 One Spot Foxface
-3-5 Anthias (dunno which yet) need multiple feedings per day for long term success
-1-2 firefish one only
-1 Sailfin Blenny

Thanks!

always a pleasure

[Rognin]

always a pleasure

If/when the tank matures. Would it be possible to add a third tang?

I'd narrow it down to brown, blue and yellow tang (talking over a year).

Also, what would be the order of insertion for my fish list into the tank to reduce aggression?

Thanks again!!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Rognin

If/when the tank matures. Would it be possible to add a third tang?

The foxface "counts as" a tang; if a foxface is hungry (and they eat constantly) they are not coral safe by the way

I'd narrow it down to brown, blue and yellow tang (talking over a year). Blue like in P. Hepatus? If so, no. If you eliminate the foxface, a third tang, while pushing it, might possibly work.)

Also, what would be the order of insertion for my fish list into the tank to reduce aggression? always most aggressive last (yellow tang or another tang)

Thanks again!!

[justslothy]

alright guys, i'm in the process of cycling my first saltwater tank which is going to be a mixed reef. it is 100 gallons and the dimensions are as follows in inches L x W x H: 72x18x19

Here's what my stocking list looks like for now; give or take a few. I'll add some questions below concerning a few of these fish:

1 yellow tang
2 ocellaris clownfish
2 bangaii cardinal
1 kole tang
2 firefish goby
1 green mandarin pair (obviously after i establish a good copepod population)
a few reef safe wrasses (not really sure which ones)
green/ bicolor chromis school (?)
1 diamond watchman goby
1 pseudochromis /1 royal gramma
1 or 2 cleaner wrasses

Alright so, do you think it would be fine to keep the kole and the yellow tang together? I am planning on introducing them together to avoid any aggression issues. For the chromis school, i hear that they quickly go from 5 to 1, is that true? Is there anyway you can keep chromis as a school of ~5? Also, any nice looking wrasses or similar fish you would add to this list? Keep in mind this is going to be a mixed reef tank. Thanks!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by justslothy

alright guys,

this thread is only answered by Reef Central Staff; if you want general opinions post in the Reef Fish Forum

i'm in the process of cycling my first saltwater tank which is going to be a mixed reef. it is 100 gallons and the dimensions are as follows in inches L x W x H: 72x18x19

Here's what my stocking list looks like for now; give or take a few. I'll add some questions below concerning a few of these fish:

1 yellow tang
2 ocellaris clownfish
2 bangaii cardinal should be tank raised
1 kole tang
2 firefish goby only one will sustain long term
1 green mandarin pair (obviously after i establish a good copepod population) only one will work in this sized tank
a few reef safe wrasses (not really sure which ones) they will eat copepods so your single mandarin may not work
green/ bicolor chromis school (?) chromis do not school and will diminish to one over time
1 diamond watchman goby
1 pseudochromis /1 royal gramma royal gramma is fine, a pseudochromis is not compatible with reef safe wrasses
1 or 2 cleaner wrasses no. First of all, only the African endemic tends to work, and only one in any case. These do not help with parasite control.

Alright so, do you think it would be fine to keep the kole and the yellow tang together? not in this sized tank. I am planning on introducing them together to avoid any aggression issues. For the chromis school, i hear that they quickly go from 5 to 1, is that true? yes Is there anyway you can keep chromis as a school of ~5? no Also, any nice looking wrasses or similar fish you would add to this list? Keep in mind this is going to be a mixed reef tank. Thanks!

[GT350pwns]

Pushed my luck a bit too much with my tank size, as we discussed yesterday. Will hopefully be able to pull the anthias and the flame out during a water change over the weekend.

With all that said, the tank is a 36 gallon bowfront with 2 ocellaris clowns (snowflake and darwin), a pom pom crab, 2 sexy shrimp (would like to add ~3 more at some point), and some hermits.

I'm thinking about a helfrichi or purple firefish, a basslet (black cap or macneill's assessor), a YWG (on the fence here, I know they can get pretty territorial), and maybe one or two other small fish (any suggestions? I'm open to ideas. Want active, colorful, and compatible).

Thanks in advance!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by GT350pwns

Pushed my luck a bit too much with my tank size, as we discussed yesterday. Will hopefully be able to pull the anthias and the flame out during a water change over the weekend.

With all that said, the tank is a 36 gallon bowfront with 2 ocellaris clowns (snowflake and darwin), a pom pom crab, 2 sexy shrimp (would like to add ~3 more at some point), they do best in groups ideally associated with a plate coral or similar for a sense protection. and some hermits.

I'm thinking about a helfrichi or purple firefish either is excellent but only one


, a basslet (black cap not with sexy shrimp or macneill's assessor) either assessor is good although mildly cryptic , a YWG (on the fence here, I know they can get pretty territorial), and maybe one or two other small fish (any suggestions? I'm open to ideas. Want active, colorful, and compatible). active in this sized tank is probably not going to work

as those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons but would always be happy to review any stocking plan provided tank size is also provided.

Thanks in advance!