A "peaceful" coexistence?

DiverDownBrian · 04/18/2007, 07:34 AM

Are there any fish that can be safely (both for the fish and the shrimp) kept in the same tank with a wrenne?

I was thinking a dwarf lion fish.

Any thoughts?

DDB

yankeereefer · 04/18/2007, 08:09 AM

My wennerae currently resides with a yellow tailed damsel. They've been together for months.

Note that this is the 2nd damsel - Mantis killed the first

Altpers0na-old · 04/18/2007, 09:04 AM

i dont know about a n. wenn killing a lion fish, but from what has been posted here i think the score is something like mantis 5 lion fish 0.

justinl · 04/18/2007, 09:36 AM

im gonna go ahead and say no. it won't work very well. lion may try to eat the mantis or the mantis may kill the lion, or the lion may eat the mantis and the mantis will kill the lion from inside it's mouth. fun times.

dragonforce · 04/18/2007, 09:52 AM

damsels are your best bet as they can be replaced on a needed basis and add some excitment for you and your mantis

G.SMITHII · 04/18/2007, 10:30 AM

i think the prob. with lion fish is the think the mantis might be food.

and if they opt to take a closer look, thats no good for anybody.

with a wenn. id say small fish under 20 bucks that stay in the water column.

vary from that and you take the risk of being sad and out a couple bucks

justinl · 04/18/2007, 11:52 PM

i agree with the damsel. Or a fish that is big enough to intimidate it. My G. smithii gets freaked any time my foxface comes near. i may just have a wussy mantis though.

firefish would probably to well too but you'll need a lid because they're jumpers.

Thurge · 04/19/2007, 12:27 PM

My N.wnnera made a premptive strike and took out the Lion I tried. Oddly enough we were BOTH having fish for dinner that night. Small and fast are what you are looking for. I have been hesitant to try it but a small, more docile Pseudochromis may work also. I personally don't think a firefish would fair too well. While I would be hard pressed to think of a Damsel I have lost to a Mantis I can't think of a mantis I have owned who hasn't at least made the attempt when possible.

Shekki · 04/20/2007, 01:32 AM

I've kept mine in a 24g with 2 damsels and a dottyback. The fish swim right by him with no consequence. Mine only loves baby hermits and bloodworms.

Opcn · 04/20/2007, 04:38 AM

Different fish are well different. Ifyou have been keeping fish long surely you realize this.

Ms. K · 04/26/2007, 08:35 AM

And mantis are very different too. Each has its own personality. I keep a black molly with my 7" peacock. I threw it in there as food, but now I have to feed it...lol.

thatguy · 04/26/2007, 10:37 AM

My Chromis scare my Wennerae so he stays in his hole unless he gets really hungry or I put food within an inch of the entrance. I'd take them out but I can't catch them with out destroying the tank.

bph0013 · 04/26/2007, 11:09 AM

Ours has peacefully coexisted with a black-striped gold chromis for a month or so.

04/18/2007, 07:34 AM	#1
DiverDownBrian Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	A "peaceful" coexistence? Are there any fish that can be safely (both for the fish and the shrimp) kept in the same tank with a wrenne? I was thinking a dwarf lion fish. Any thoughts? DDB

04/18/2007, 10:30 AM	#6
G.SMITHII Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eldorado Springs, Co. Posts: 559	i think the prob. with lion fish is the think the mantis might be food. and if they opt to take a closer look, thats no good for anybody. with a wenn. id say small fish under 20 bucks that stay in the water column. vary from that and you take the risk of being sad and out a couple bucks __________________ -The problem was, she new what she wanted and it wasn't me. I know more women like that than any other kind.- Bukowski Current Tank Info: 15 Gal. Mantis Tank. (20gal. tank, w/ 5-6" DSB, 25Lbs LR, so like 15gal. of water.) G. Smithii (Bane), A lot of Zoa and Paly frags, MGSP, Mushies, Candy Canes, other stuff... Fire Fish, Damsel, Peppermint Shrimp, and fluctuating CUC:)

04/19/2007, 12:27 PM	#8
Thurge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 2,707	My N.wnnera made a premptive strike and took out the Lion I tried. Oddly enough we were BOTH having fish for dinner that night. Small and fast are what you are looking for. I have been hesitant to try it but a small, more docile Pseudochromis may work also. I personally don't think a firefish would fair too well. While I would be hard pressed to think of a Damsel I have lost to a Mantis I can't think of a mantis I have owned who hasn't at least made the attempt when possible. __________________ What have you done with my Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator Earthling? The memories of a man in his old age, Are the deeds of a man in his prime. Pink Floyd

04/20/2007, 01:32 AM	#9
Shekki Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ocean City, MD Posts: 651	I've kept mine in a 24g with 2 damsels and a dottyback. The fish swim right by him with no consequence. Mine only loves baby hermits and bloodworms. __________________ Elos mini reef Current Tank Info: Elos mini, reefkeeper 2, Vortech MP20, ice cap moonlight, Reef Fanatic ATO

04/26/2007, 08:35 AM	#11
Ms. K Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 216	And mantis are very different too. Each has its own personality. I keep a black molly with my 7" peacock. I threw it in there as food, but now I have to feed it...lol. __________________ Ms. K "We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depths of our answers" - Carl Sagan Current Tank Info: 30g mantis tank;125 gallon reef with 58 gallon fuge, pair false percs, bangaii card, coral beauty, black and white perc, royal gramma, mandarin dragonette, dragon goby, sunrise dottyback, bicolor blenny, softies, candy cane, frogspawn, etc.

04/18/2007, 08:09 AM	#2
yankeereefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Down the road from Kermit's Posts: 2,127	My wennerae currently resides with a yellow tailed damsel. They've been together for months. Note that this is the 2nd damsel - Mantis killed the first

04/18/2007, 09:04 AM	#3
Altpers0na-old Reefer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Flatwoods, ky Posts: 440	i dont know about a n. wenn killing a lion fish, but from what has been posted here i think the score is something like mantis 5 lion fish 0.

04/18/2007, 09:36 AM	#4
justinl Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,118	im gonna go ahead and say no. it won't work very well. lion may try to eat the mantis or the mantis may kill the lion, or the lion may eat the mantis and the mantis will kill the lion from inside it's mouth. fun times.

04/18/2007, 09:52 AM	#5
dragonforce Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Laguna Niguel, 92677 Posts: 587	damsels are your best bet as they can be replaced on a needed basis and add some excitment for you and your mantis

04/18/2007, 11:52 PM	#7
justinl Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,118	i agree with the damsel. Or a fish that is big enough to intimidate it. My G. smithii gets freaked any time my foxface comes near. i may just have a wussy mantis though. firefish would probably to well too but you'll need a lid because they're jumpers.

04/20/2007, 04:38 AM	#10
Opcn Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Picard, Dominca, Caribbean Posts: 591	Different fish are well different. Ifyou have been keeping fish long surely you realize this.

04/26/2007, 10:37 AM	#12
thatguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CO Posts: 513	My Chromis scare my Wennerae so he stays in his hole unless he gets really hungry or I put food within an inch of the entrance. I'd take them out but I can't catch them with out destroying the tank. __________________ #something witty Current Tank Info: in my memories

04/26/2007, 11:09 AM	#13
bph0013 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 317	Ours has peacefully coexisted with a black-striped gold chromis for a month or so. __________________ Ben Current Tank Info: 40br SPS Reef, 20H sump/refugium, L3MS on a ARO 250W E-ballast, 250w XM 20k bulb, 2 x Tunze 6025 NS, Tunze 9005 DOC Skimmer, Mag 5 return