What's That?

puter · 02/10/2007, 11:28 AM

Have you ever noticed how difficult it can be, given the varying pronunciations by hobbyists, to recognize spoken reef-related scientific names? Have you wondered how the terms are "supposed" to be pronounced?

I've taken a stab at answering that question here:

www.reeftopics.com

Put your mouse over a term and you'll hear how I think it's pronounced. However, while I have reason to believe the provided pronunciations are correct (or at least close), it's very possible I've gotten some wrong.

So, I need to check people to check my work. If you think there are words that are wrong, let me know. If there are words that should be added to list, let me know that too.

- Mark

MarkKlier · 02/10/2007, 11:32 AM

Mark what a great idea!!!! Other then the fact I cannot hear anything

I tried clicking my mouse as well...MK

Gary Majchrzak · 02/10/2007, 11:32 AM

very kewl...
I recognize that mystery voice!

(folks- don't forget to turn your PC speakers on)

puter · 02/10/2007, 11:53 AM

Mark, javascript has to be on. Could that be the problem?

- Mark

nwrogers · 02/10/2007, 11:59 AM

Very cool! It worked for me, just takes a few seconds to load wav file each time. Thanks!

MarkKlier · 02/10/2007, 11:59 AM

Turned the volume way up...now it works. Very cool. By the way noticed two things...First I say them ALLLL wrong (thats why I went into Pediatrics 5 year olds don't care)
Next dosnt Mark sound a little like Carl Sagan (not bad company btw)
MK

SkiFletch · 02/10/2007, 12:01 PM

Wow, wierd, you pronounce some things differently than I do

ri · 02/10/2007, 12:05 PM

Very Nice!!!

Now you need to associate a picture with the word.

ri

RandyO · 02/10/2007, 12:06 PM

Cool.
There were a few that were different from the way I pronounce them. And I found a spelling error on Turbinaria.

Scolymia was one that was very different from the way I pronounce it.

Julian Sprung has it phonetically pronounced as:
SKO-lee-MY-uh

MarksReef · 02/10/2007, 12:18 PM

You have most of them wrong or I have most of them wrong.

Mark, this is a great idea and a huge addition to our reef society learning.
How about adding Chaetomorpha. Did I spell that right?

and
Caulastrea.

puter · 02/10/2007, 04:12 PM

Thanks guys!

Rick, I'd be happy to add pictures if people with much better photography skills than me are inclined to submit them. They can be emailed to me at reefTopics 'at' sites-online.com with a short note indicating they can be be used on the website and, if a photocredit is desired, what it should be.

Randy, thanks! Let me know which other ones you pronounce differently... I'll check some other sources and see if there's any sort of consensus.

The Scolymia pronunciation was taken from Borneman's "Aquarium Corals" p277. Phonetically (skahl'-ee-my'-ah). Citing sources for differences, as you did, is a huge help.

Mark, I forgot to include links to several terms that begin with "c," thanks! Caulastrea is now up there. I'll need to do some research on Chaetomorpha... that's one I always struggle with.

- Mark

puter · 02/10/2007, 04:29 PM

Quote:

How about adding Chaetomorpha.

According to Bob Fenner it's ("Key-toe-morph-ah")... it'll be added shortly.

- Mark

Gary Majchrzak · 02/10/2007, 05:05 PM

my avatar shows how to pronounce gigantea

puter · 02/10/2007, 05:09 PM

Gary, I saw that guy's post but I haven't been able to confirm the pronunciation anywhere else. I haven't found any sources for phonetically spelled anemone names. You don't know of one by any chance?

- Mark

Gary Majchrzak · 02/10/2007, 05:28 PM

nope. And bonsainut knows Latin. And anemones.

puter · 02/10/2007, 07:15 PM

I may take a best guess and ask BonsaiNut for his thoughts. Problem is, when he says:

Quote:

mispronunciation is pretty broadly accepted on some words. For example, the pronunciation of "Gigantea" should NOT be "gee-GANT-ee-ah" but rather "ghee-ghan-TAY-a" (there is no soft "g" in Latin). But no one pronounces it that way.

I'm left in a quandary. I have a list of Latin pronunciation guidelines, but I don't want to pronounce things the way the Latin professors would (but nobody does). I'm looking for the pronunciation you and I would hear if we were able to eavesdrop, for instance, on a conversation between Daphne Fautin and Malcolm Shick.

- Mark

MarkKlier · 02/10/2007, 09:52 PM

Next...fish

Gary Majchrzak · 02/11/2007, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by puter
I'm looking for the pronunciation you and I would hear if we were able to eavesdrop, for instance, on a conversation between Daphne Fautin and Malcolm Shick.

- Mark

why? those two probably mispronounce the names as well!

Gary Majchrzak · 03/11/2007, 08:56 PM

bump

belgian_waffleman · 03/11/2007, 09:12 PM

I can't get this to work with Firefox, Java is enabled.
Only with MS Explorer.Any ideas why?

Awesome tool!

Waffleman

jstraka1 · 03/12/2007, 05:40 AM

What a great Idea!!!

magdelan · 01/20/2009, 12:32 AM

This was a great thread. Is there any way to fix the link???

puter · 01/20/2009, 01:22 AM

I pulled that site down when we were moving some servers around. Give me a few days and I'll see if I can find it and put it back up on another server.

Mark

tmz · 01/20/2009, 01:36 AM

Please do fix it if you can. I couldn't get it with firefox either.

puter · 01/20/2009, 02:14 AM

Ok, the pronunciation page has been uploaded to:

http://www.fragtastic.com/reefterms

Remember that my pronunciations come with no guarantees... use them at your own risk.

And, as others have noted, the page only works properly in IE.

Mark

02/10/2007, 11:28 AM	#1
puter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,549	What's That? Have you ever noticed how difficult it can be, given the varying pronunciations by hobbyists, to recognize spoken reef-related scientific names? Have you wondered how the terms are "supposed" to be pronounced? I've taken a stab at answering that question here: www.reeftopics.com Put your mouse over a term and you'll hear how I think it's pronounced. However, while I have reason to believe the provided pronunciations are correct (or at least close), it's very possible I've gotten some wrong. So, I need to check people to check my work. If you think there are words that are wrong, let me know. If there are words that should be added to list, let me know that too. - Mark

02/10/2007, 11:32 AM	#3
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	very kewl... I recognize that mystery voice! (folks- don't forget to turn your PC speakers on) __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

02/10/2007, 11:59 AM	#5
nwrogers Got gorgs? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Binghamton NY Posts: 3,151	Very cool! It worked for me, just takes a few seconds to load wav file each time. Thanks! __________________ Nate Current Tank Info: 65g RR Coral Reef SSB w/ 150lbs Fiji Live Rock, Hydor Koralia Wavemaker 2 w/ 2 K4's, 1 175w 10K SE MH, 2 VHO Super Actinic, Digital Aquatics Reef Keeper, ASM G3 Skimmer, Korallin Calcium Reactor, GEO kalk reactor, 75g basement sump

02/10/2007, 12:01 PM	#7
SkiFletch Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: N Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,665	Wow, wierd, you pronounce some things differently than I do __________________ You will miss 100% of the shots you dont take. Dare to dream Mike, aka Fletch Current Tank Info: 65 gallon reef

02/10/2007, 12:06 PM	#9
RandyO Registered Member. Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 4,535	Cool. There were a few that were different from the way I pronounce them. And I found a spelling error on Turbinaria. Scolymia was one that was very different from the way I pronounce it. Julian Sprung has it phonetically pronounced as: SKO-lee-MY-uh __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away."

02/10/2007, 11:32 AM	#2
MarkKlier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 1,568	Mark what a great idea!!!! Other then the fact I cannot hear anything I tried clicking my mouse as well...MK

02/10/2007, 11:53 AM	#4
puter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,549	Mark, javascript has to be on. Could that be the problem? - Mark

02/10/2007, 12:05 PM	#8
ri Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spencerport, NY Posts: 3,717	Very Nice!!! Now you need to associate a picture with the word. ri

02/10/2007, 12:18 PM	#10
MarksReef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rush, N.Y. Posts: 4,058	You have most of them wrong or I have most of them wrong. Mark, this is a great idea and a huge addition to our reef society learning. How about adding Chaetomorpha. Did I spell that right? and Caulastrea. Last edited by MarksReef; 02/10/2007 at 12:39 PM.

02/10/2007, 04:12 PM	#11
puter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,549	Thanks guys! Rick, I'd be happy to add pictures if people with much better photography skills than me are inclined to submit them. They can be emailed to me at reefTopics 'at' sites-online.com with a short note indicating they can be be used on the website and, if a photocredit is desired, what it should be. Randy, thanks! Let me know which other ones you pronounce differently... I'll check some other sources and see if there's any sort of consensus. The Scolymia pronunciation was taken from Borneman's "Aquarium Corals" p277. Phonetically (skahl'-ee-my'-ah). Citing sources for differences, as you did, is a huge help. Mark, I forgot to include links to several terms that begin with "c," thanks! Caulastrea is now up there. I'll need to do some research on Chaetomorpha... that's one I always struggle with. - Mark

02/10/2007, 05:05 PM	#13
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	my avatar shows how to pronounce gigantea __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

02/10/2007, 05:09 PM	#14
puter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,549	Gary, I saw that guy's post but I haven't been able to confirm the pronunciation anywhere else. I haven't found any sources for phonetically spelled anemone names. You don't know of one by any chance? - Mark

02/10/2007, 05:28 PM	#15
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	nope. And bonsainut knows Latin. And anemones. __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

02/10/2007, 09:52 PM	#17
MarkKlier Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 1,568	Next...fish

03/11/2007, 08:56 PM	#19
Gary Majchrzak Team RC Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 41,560	bump __________________ over 24 years experience with multiple types of marine aquarium systems see Upstate Reef Society Forum on RC and FB GOOGLE JUNIOR'S REEF Current Tank Info: 84x24x30 265g reef past TOTM honors

03/11/2007, 09:12 PM	#20
belgian_waffleman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lockport,NY Posts: 1,309	I can't get this to work with Firefox, Java is enabled. Only with MS Explorer.Any ideas why? Awesome tool! Waffleman

03/12/2007, 05:40 AM	#21
jstraka1 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rose, New York Posts: 674	What a great Idea!!! __________________ Jason. Current Tank Info: 65 gallon clear, rectangular box of tropical marine paradise in my living room.

01/20/2009, 12:32 AM	#22
magdelan Fish? Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gananda, NY Posts: 3,785	This was a great thread. Is there any way to fix the link??? __________________ "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent, used to build monuments of nothingness. Those who specialize in them, are seldom capable of anything else."

01/20/2009, 01:22 AM	#23
puter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,549	I pulled that site down when we were moving some servers around. Give me a few days and I'll see if I can find it and put it back up on another server. Mark

01/20/2009, 01:36 AM	#24
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	Please do fix it if you can. I couldn't get it with firefox either. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

01/20/2009, 02:14 AM	#25
puter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,549	Ok, the pronunciation page has been uploaded to: http://www.fragtastic.com/reefterms Remember that my pronunciations come with no guarantees... use them at your own risk. And, as others have noted, the page only works properly in IE. Mark Last edited by puter; 01/20/2009 at 02:37 AM.