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Old 04/22/2017, 10:05 AM   #1201
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Exclamation Brief update

I am pushed for time at the moment but thanks everyone for all the continuing interest in this thread...........

I have NOT done anything yet about the broken tank. This requires more time than I have at the moment to take everyone through recent deliberations but I want to let this community know about a change that is coming up that will affect this thread.

From the beginning I have used 'Phanfare' for my cloud based photo/video storage facility. I have just been informed that it will be shutting down on May 28th. Although they made provisions to accommodate users with a transfer of the photos to 'SmugMug' the links to this thread will be broken and all photos in this thread will disappear. I don't know how to avoid this from happening so any suggestions would be welcome. It seems to me that it will be sad to lose this resource as so many of you have contributed to its success. I do have all the original photos (and a lot more)but I can't imagine going through almost 200 pages of this thread to rebuild the sequence from scratch.........

I'm sorry to those who helped along the way but unless a miracle happens this thread will be 'Photoless' from May 28th on....................

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Old 04/22/2017, 10:58 AM   #1202
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I am pushed for time at the moment but thanks everyone for all the continuing interest in this thread...........

I have NOT done anything yet about the broken tank. This requires more time than I have at the moment to take everyone through recent deliberations but I want to let this community know about a change that is coming up that will affect this thread.

From the beginning I have used 'Phanfare' for my cloud based photo/video storage facility. I have just been informed that it will be shutting down on May 28th. Although they made provisions to accommodate users with a transfer of the photos to 'SmugMug' the links to this thread will be broken and all photos in this thread will disappear. I don't know how to avoid this from happening so any suggestions would be welcome. It seems to me that it will be sad to lose this resource as so many of you have contributed to its success. I do have all the original photos (and a lot more)but I can't imagine going through almost 200 pages of this thread to rebuild the sequence from scratch.........

I'm sorry to those who helped along the way but unless a miracle happens this thread will be 'Photoless' from May 28th on....................

Peter

That is extremely unfortunate Peter. May I suggest simply uploading all the originals into an "Album" on SmugMug/Flickr and linking it here? While it's not as useful as having them in the context of posts, folks could still browse through them and if absolutely crucial to do so possibly even match the old file name from the URL in the thread to a photo out of the album/gallery.

Either way, I agree that it seems nearly impossible to save the thread photowise outside of a "Way way back machine" or other website snapshot but most don't understand/can't crawl a single thread.

Someone could start here: https://web.archive.org/web/20170422....php?t=2096730 and archive each page but again, a Herculean task and would need to be done for the various "Split" threads prior as well.


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Old 04/22/2017, 11:04 AM   #1203
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Thanks Chris......this is all new to me. Thanks for the introduction....I will investigate further.

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Old 04/22/2017, 11:05 AM   #1204
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I was thinking of posting a "thank you" to Peter thanking him for keeping the photos up on this thread.
Thank you.
If there is a way to still keep access to them we would appreciate it greatly.
As you are probably paying for it monthly, it is completely up to you.


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Old 04/22/2017, 11:19 AM   #1205
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the cost isn't an issue as much as the feasibility of trying to keep the thread in tact. I believe the context brings the story of this build to life though the thread. We all learned as a group and that shared experience is what makes this thread so valuable in my opinion. Making the photos available is not difficult in a generally accessible album but again without the narrative context its just not the same thing.

One observation I have is that the 5 year history produced a number of highlights through the evolution of the build. Some of the best features didn't necessarily all occur at the same time so I was thinking of creating the best of the tank over the five years in one album but that too is not a trivial task to do well or properly.

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Old 04/22/2017, 11:22 AM   #1206
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I will have to read your thread again. For the fifth time or so....


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Old 04/22/2017, 06:13 PM   #1207
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Hi, Peter. Glad to see you've not given up on us quite yet. After moving all your photos to a new host I could redo your website to show the new image locations (unless your website is on PhanFare too).

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Old 04/22/2017, 06:38 PM   #1208
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Dave, I had forgotten you actually live in this forum.......Great to hear from you! As you know better than most the reef central thread on this build is almost 200 pages long with a kazillion photos embedded throughout the entire thread. The linked photos came from a number of large directories on phanfare. I have moved all the directories over to SmugMug but the links did not transfer so there is virtually no way to relink the old photos from the new directories back to this thread without doing it manually which would in my estimation take at least seven dog years to accomplish unless I am missing something?

Your usual generosity and commitment to this build community deserves recognition but this task is waaaaay over the top. Frankly I'm not even sure its possible to do manually.

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Old 04/23/2017, 05:29 AM   #1209
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Peter, I was referring to the Four Masters website. The Reef Central admin does not allow anyone to modify their posts to the forum after about an hour. However, there are far fewer direct links to individual images on the Four Masters site. That would not be as big a job to re-link (btw, the phanfare links still work from there at the moment). If you have new links on SmugMug I could re-direct Four Masters.

Please let me know what you think.

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Old 04/23/2017, 08:53 AM   #1210
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Peter, I followed your build at the beginning, but I ended up in an ICU/coma in 2012 (long story) and my tank was left to fend for itself. Some livestock did survive but I had to tear it down. Fast forward 5 years later...got back from the dead worked for a few years but had to go back to disability to manage stress and rare form of diabetes. Got back into the hobby and caught up on your build. Sorry to hear about the catastrophic event and I can relate in a way. But then again life seems to be a cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. Looking forward to catching up with all the lessons learned in your build these last 5 years. - Patrick


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Old 04/23/2017, 09:21 AM   #1211
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Peter, I was referring to the Four Masters website. The Reef Central admin does not allow anyone to modify their posts to the forum after about an hour. However, there are far fewer direct links to individual images on the Four Masters site. That would not be as big a job to re-link (btw, the phanfare links still work from there at the moment). If you have new links on SmugMug I could re-direct Four Masters.

Please let me know what you think.

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Sorry Dave, I must be brain dead......i see now what you meant.........I definitely would appreciate the help. It's probably a worthwhile effort .......especially the last slide show (even without the music). Since its so new I will have to recheck the smugmug login/signon procedures and create an account for you. I will PM you the details.

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Old 04/23/2017, 09:25 AM   #1212
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Peter, I followed your build at the beginning, but I ended up in an ICU/coma in 2012 (long story) and my tank was left to fend for itself. Some livestock did survive but I had to tear it down. Fast forward 5 years later...got back from the dead worked for a few years but had to go back to disability to manage stress and rare form of diabetes. Got back into the hobby and caught up on your build. Sorry to hear about the catastrophic event and I can relate in a way. But then again life seems to be a cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. Looking forward to catching up with all the lessons learned in your build these last 5 years. - Patrick


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Glad the hear that you did better than my tank . There has been a lot of discovery through this build and as much evolution in my thinking after the crash as before........but that will take a bigger time window than I have at the moment.........

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bump for posterity and never forgetting those who wouldn't warranty their tank build........


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Old 06/29/2017, 01:18 PM   #1215
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First I was blown away (by the beauty), then my jaw dropped (like the bottom seam), and now I'm subscribing because I want to know when the next greatest thing happens (v 2.0). All after watching a YouTube video and clicking on the link within.

Hope a new chapter in Peter's life, along with new thread will happen soon.

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