120 Gal 4x2x2 what equipment are you running?

Cyproz · 09/30/2016, 07:14 AM

About to pick up the perfect size tank i want and have been looking for. its a drilled reef ready 4x2x2 glass aquarium. its about 6 to 8 months old from glasscages. Im just getting the tank and stand and wondering what equipment others are running in their 4x2x2 tanks. what size sump?

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sleepydoc · 09/30/2016, 07:33 AM

120 with a 40 breeder sump is a nice combo. From experience I would skip the corner overflow and do a coast to coast with beananimal plumbing.

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GSMclowns · 09/30/2016, 07:46 AM

I have the same size tank.
Return: Eheim 1260 (You can up the size to 1262)
Light: 8 bulbs ATI Sunpower
PowerHeads: Tunze 6105s or MP40s
Sump: 40 gallons breeder (custom sump if you have the money).
Skimmer: Too many to choose from.

ktownhero · 09/30/2016, 08:26 AM

I'm building a Redsea Reefer XL 425 right now, it's only 90g but it has basically the same footprint as a 120 (47"x22.6"x22"). I'm going with the following:

Light: Kessil AP700
Return: Eheim 1262
Powerheads: Vortech MP40QD
Skimmer: Reef Octopus 150 SSS
Sump/ATO: included with tank

bizacon · 09/30/2016, 08:32 AM

I am also building a Reefer 425XL out..

Light: Radion G4 (2)
Return: Ecotech Vectra M1
Powerheads: Vortech MP40QD (2)
Skimmer: LifeReef Skimmer SVS-24
Sump/ATO: 24 gallon sump/Tunze 3155

ReefWreak · 09/30/2016, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktownhero

I'm building a Redsea Reefer XL 425 right now, it's only 90g but it has basically the same footprint as a 120 (47"x22.6"x22"). I'm going with the following:

Light: Kessil AP700

I would strongly recommend reconsidering your lighting choice. For any of the 120cm wide tanks (350, 425) or larger I would go with two fixtures. I have a friend locally with a 350, and the AP700 is pretty concentrated right in the center of the tank, with shading on the sides of the tank. You might want that, but just something to be aware of.

I'd always still recommend 2x250w MH with radiums and good reflectors. One stop shop, simple, tried and true.

For a sump, I used a 29g tank drilled for my old 120g tank, and it worked with a moderately large Euro-reef skimmer, but of course a bigger sump is better. I went with the 29g because the tank was pre-plumbed with an external pump when I bought it used.

rc1626 · 09/30/2016, 08:59 AM

Standard Aqueon 120 (Mixed Reef - Mostly SPS)
Sump: 40b going to Trigger System 39 (40b works great - just wanted extra bells and whistles)
Return: MaxFlo 1500 (dialed down) on 1" Seaswirl
Overflow: Self drilled BeanAnimal (1.5" Bulkhead through tank 3 × 1" to sump)
Lighting: 4 Kessil a360we with 4 Ati t5, going back to 2 × 250 watt Radiums under Mini Lumenbright reflectors
Flow: 2 × Tunze 6105
Skimmer: Vertex Omega 150
Control: Digital Aquatics Archon

Good luck with your set-up.

LXXero · 09/30/2016, 09:09 AM

Aqueon 120G, black silicone model
Sump: Aqueon proflex 4 (but i'd go trigger systems now-a-days, the aqueon has a wet/dry kit which was interesting to me because I wanted the option to do fresh or saltwater in this tank...)
Return: fluval sp4 1822gph
Overflow: drilled 2x holes for a custom-built modular marine 18" bean animal style gohst overflow
Lighting: you wouldn't care since my 120 isn't a reef tank, lol. i'd do kessils all day. that's what i have on my actual reef tank (which is a 60cube w/single a360we). I'd start with 2x a360we's or a single ap700, add more later if need be.
Control: 2016 neptune apex

no powerheads yet, but would likely be neptune wav's, i have one of those on my 60 cube (which is like half a 120, if you think about it, lol)

i think your choice of an ap700 is fine. if you find it's not enough then get a 2nd one later, but i wouldn't be too worried about this.

Cyproz · 09/30/2016, 09:10 AM

thanks for the responses. ive been using a danner mag pump on my setup now with no issues. are the ehiem pumps better?

ill check out the other options for overflows. i saw one neat one that just sits at the top of the water line. gotta find the name

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ktownhero · 09/30/2016, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReefWreak

I would strongly recommend reconsidering your lighting choice. For any of the 120cm wide tanks (350, 425) or larger I would go with two fixtures. I have a friend locally with a 350, and the AP700 is pretty concentrated right in the center of the tank, with shading on the sides of the tank. You might want that, but just something to be aware of.

I appreciate the input. I did plenty of research on lighting for this tank and have seen many lit with one AP700 that look amazing. If it isn't enough, then I'll add another one later or move on to different lighting. Not sure why you are assuming that I need more light without knowing anything about my plans for the tank or its inhabitants

EDIT: Also, how high is it up from your friend's water line? At 15"+ there should be nice coverage.

LXXero · 09/30/2016, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyproz

thanks for the responses. ive been using a danner mag pump on my setup now with no issues. are the ehiem pumps better?

ill check out the other options for overflows. i saw one neat one that just sits at the top of the water line. gotta find the name

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mag drive pumps run pretty hot...

eheim's are not exactly the most efficient either but probably run cooler than mag drives and are known to be very reliable.

I would look at the fluval sp series as well, they're built to quite a high standard (ceramic shafts, italian made askoll pump block, etc), if you want a little more flow

ReefWreak · 09/30/2016, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktownhero

I appreciate the input. I did plenty of research on lighting for this tank and have seen many lit with one AP700 that look amazing. If it isn't enough, then I'll add another one later or move on to different lighting. Not sure why you are assuming that I need more light without knowing anything about my plans for the tank or its inhabitants.

EDIT: Also, how high is it up from your friend's water line? At 15"+ there should be nice coverage.

Sounds like you know what you're getting into then.

His is about 12-14" or so over the tank, not sure of the exact height since I didn't set it up. He's using the stock AP700 arms, and I know he has raised it a few times now so he isn't at the bottom. I just assume that you need light since you're dropping $$$ on a fixture, but if you were planning on different degrees of light zones, then it's an optimal choice for that. Maybe the sides have higher PAR than looking at it by eye would suggest, but I noticed visible shading. I'm sure rockwork can also dramatically change the need too, he happens to have 2 islands instead of one rock wall, and the outsides of his islands are somewhat dimmer/shaded relative to the middle.

GimpyFin · 09/30/2016, 09:37 AM

Marineland 110g tall cornerflow (4×1.5×2.5)
Sump: Eshopps 3rd gen. R-300
Powerheads: Gyre 150, Eheim streamon+ 4000
Return: Eheim compact 3000
Skimmer: Eshopps S-200 cone
Lights: 2x AI Hydra 26HD

ktownhero · 09/30/2016, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReefWreak

Sounds like you know what you're getting into then.

His is about 12-14" or so over the tank, not sure of the exact height since I didn't set it up. He's using the stock AP700 arms, and I know he has raised it a few times now so he isn't at the bottom. I just assume that you need light since you're dropping $$$ on a fixture, but if you were planning on different degrees of light zones, then it's an optimal choice for that. Maybe the sides have higher PAR than looking at it by eye would suggest, but I noticed visible shading. I'm sure rockwork can also dramatically change the need too, he happens to have 2 islands instead of one rock wall, and the outsides of his islands are somewhat dimmer/shaded relative to the middle.

Well they do rate the AP700 as covering 48" at 15"-18" off of the water line, so he may not have it high enough.

But yeah, as for my own tank, I don't mind different lighting zones. I like to create as natural of a tank as possible and in nature you have two things: shimmer and varying intensities of light. And this is a tank that's not even put together yet, so we're talking about not likely having significant corals in there until next year (I'm very patient with letting the tank mature). If I ever deem it necessary, I'll happily add more lights

Thanks for the input again, advice and criticism is always welcome.

Cyproz · 09/30/2016, 10:01 AM

i found these overflows called H2Overflow. very neat idea

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Wazzel · 09/30/2016, 01:19 PM

Tank: Planet Aquarium 120 rimless, external over flow
Light: AI Hydra 52 (4)
Return: Sicce Syncra 3.0 (2)
Powerheads: Maxspec Gyre 130 (2)
Skimmer: Vertex Omega 180
Sump: 40 breeder DIY
ATO: 20 gallon standard aquarium, Smart ATO

billdogg · 09/30/2016, 02:49 PM

My Aqueon 120DT/40b sump uses the following:

Return Pump - eheim 1262
Reactors - 1 x BRS for carbon, and a TLF 150 for GFO, both run off a manifold from the return
Skimmer - ASMG2 w/ gate valve mod
Dosing pumps - 2 x BRS Drew's Dosers with 2 digital lamp timers
Lighting - 2 x AI Sol Blue set to 45W/65B/65RB 12on/12off with a short ramp up/down. ~12" above water
Powerheads - 4 x Koralia 1500gph, 2 on all the time, the other 2 alternate in short intervals

SPS are growing out of control to the point that I'll be fragging again after 3 months to the tune of 60+ frags. The LPS are doing just as well. 9 or 10 fish, the largest being a Tomini Tang.

Bluefish9 · 09/30/2016, 05:13 PM

I have a build going on with the same footprint.

150g xh build

http://test.reefcentral.com/forums/s...php?p=24700131

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moondoggy4 · 09/30/2016, 08:08 PM

I would also recommend the Fluvial SP 4 for a return pump. Ahem are also a very good pump. I have a Iwaki 30 for my 120 tank.

tom obrecht · 10/01/2016, 07:10 AM

I'll chime in. I ran 2-250 halides with radiums in lumen bright reflectors along with t5 actinics for supplements. Skimmer was an ATB 1050 deluxe which is oversized but it did pull a ton out of the water. I had plans to upgrade in size down the road so I purchased this skimmer. Return pump was a Reef Octopus RC pump. Nice to have ability to increase or decrease flow with a touch of a button. Sump was a 125 tank that once again was put in place to handle the eventual increase of tank size down the road. I ran 4 tunze 6095's in the display.

Lowefx · 10/01/2016, 07:46 AM

I have 4x2x2 with starphire front glass.
Lighting: 48" 2×150w mh, 4x52w T5 retrofit
Sump:30 gal
Powerhead: MP40 2x koralia's
Return:mag 5 I think
I'm still going thru a cycle.

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Bpb · 10/01/2016, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSMclowns

I have the same size tank.
Return: Eheim 1260 (You can up the size to 1262)
Light: 8 bulbs ATI Sunpower
PowerHeads: Tunze 6105s or MP40s
Sump: 40 gallons breeder (custom sump if you have the money).
Skimmer: Too many to choose from.

This. This is exactly what I was going to post. Except I would definitely just do that eheim 1262 right out of the gate

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FirstContact · 10/01/2016, 02:39 PM

120g Marineland

Sump: 150g Rubbermaid
Skimmer: Skimz Kone SK222
Return: Waveline 12000 with Manifold and Line for Refugium
Reactor: Precision Marine for GFO
Lights: Orphek V2 Round Pendants (2) 9 Inches Above Tank CH1 35 CH2 75 CH3 35 CH4 35
Filtration: Filter Socks
Refugium: 20g Tall with Chaeto
Refugium Lighting: T5
Refugium Powerhead: Sicce Extreme
Powerheads: Jebao R15 (2)
Cal/Alk: MRC Kalk Reactor
Control: Vertex Cerebra
ATO: Tunze Osmolator 32g Brute Hooked Up to Kalk Reactor

RobSpeed13 · 10/01/2016, 03:00 PM

got a 110G myself though 200G of water as i have attached a 50G frag tank.

Bought the 110 Reef ready for $500 with everything, sump, lights, return pump plumbing
Pump-Coralife TurboSea1090 i believe, thinking of switching to EcoTech L1 or m1
40G sump
Reef Octopus skimmer
going to run 2 Nano Box Quad wides
2 mp40's quite drives

excuse the messiness as i just changed the plumbing to PVC and was doing a leak test. made a mess of water under the sump haha. Sadly cant set these two tanks up yet as we are doing the tile to the house as you can see in these photos.

Lowefx · 10/02/2016, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowefx

I have 4x2x2 with starphire front glass.
Lighting: 48" 2×150w mh, 4x52w T5 retrofit
Sump:30 gal
Powerhead: MP40 2x koralia's
Return:mag 5 I think
Skimmer: Vertex Omega 150
I'm still going thru a cycle.

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Edit: Skimmer Vertex omega 150

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09/30/2016, 07:14 AM	#1
Cyproz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 135	120 Gal 4x2x2 what equipment are you running? About to pick up the perfect size tank i want and have been looking for. its a drilled reef ready 4x2x2 glass aquarium. its about 6 to 8 months old from glasscages. Im just getting the tank and stand and wondering what equipment others are running in their 4x2x2 tanks. what size sump? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

09/30/2016, 07:33 AM	#2
sleepydoc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,907	120 with a 40 breeder sump is a nice combo. From experience I would skip the corner overflow and do a coast to coast with beananimal plumbing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 120 gallon, coast to coast overflow w/beananimal overflow. Waveline DC 10000 II return pump, 40 gal sump, Octopus XS200 skimmer, T5 lighting

09/30/2016, 07:46 AM	#3
GSMclowns A Reef Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 364	I have the same size tank. Return: Eheim 1260 (You can up the size to 1262) Light: 8 bulbs ATI Sunpower PowerHeads: Tunze 6105s or MP40s Sump: 40 gallons breeder (custom sump if you have the money). Skimmer: Too many to choose from. __________________ Bao ================================= ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º>

09/30/2016, 08:32 AM	#5
bizacon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 735	I am also building a Reefer 425XL out.. Light: Radion G4 (2) Return: Ecotech Vectra M1 Powerheads: Vortech MP40QD (2) Skimmer: LifeReef Skimmer SVS-24 Sump/ATO: 24 gallon sump/Tunze 3155 __________________ Reefer 425XL

09/30/2016, 09:37 AM	#13
GimpyFin Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,032	Marineland 110g tall cornerflow (4×1.5×2.5) Sump: Eshopps 3rd gen. R-300 Powerheads: Gyre 150, Eheim streamon+ 4000 Return: Eheim compact 3000 Skimmer: Eshopps S-200 cone Lights: 2x AI Hydra 26HD __________________ Brian Current Tank Info: 110 gallon

09/30/2016, 08:26 AM	#4
ktownhero Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,426	I'm building a Redsea Reefer XL 425 right now, it's only 90g but it has basically the same footprint as a 120 (47"x22.6"x22"). I'm going with the following: Light: Kessil AP700 Return: Eheim 1262 Powerheads: Vortech MP40QD Skimmer: Reef Octopus 150 SSS Sump/ATO: included with tank

09/30/2016, 08:59 AM	#7
rc1626 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Long Island Posts: 451	Standard Aqueon 120 (Mixed Reef - Mostly SPS) Sump: 40b going to Trigger System 39 (40b works great - just wanted extra bells and whistles) Return: MaxFlo 1500 (dialed down) on 1" Seaswirl Overflow: Self drilled BeanAnimal (1.5" Bulkhead through tank 3 × 1" to sump) Lighting: 4 Kessil a360we with 4 Ati t5, going back to 2 × 250 watt Radiums under Mini Lumenbright reflectors Flow: 2 × Tunze 6105 Skimmer: Vertex Omega 150 Control: Digital Aquatics Archon Good luck with your set-up.

09/30/2016, 09:09 AM	#8
LXXero Moved On Join Date: May 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 565	Aqueon 120G, black silicone model Sump: Aqueon proflex 4 (but i'd go trigger systems now-a-days, the aqueon has a wet/dry kit which was interesting to me because I wanted the option to do fresh or saltwater in this tank...) Return: fluval sp4 1822gph Overflow: drilled 2x holes for a custom-built modular marine 18" bean animal style gohst overflow Lighting: you wouldn't care since my 120 isn't a reef tank, lol. i'd do kessils all day. that's what i have on my actual reef tank (which is a 60cube w/single a360we). I'd start with 2x a360we's or a single ap700, add more later if need be. Control: 2016 neptune apex no powerheads yet, but would likely be neptune wav's, i have one of those on my 60 cube (which is like half a 120, if you think about it, lol) i think your choice of an ap700 is fine. if you find it's not enough then get a 2nd one later, but i wouldn't be too worried about this.

09/30/2016, 09:10 AM	#9
Cyproz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 135	thanks for the responses. ive been using a danner mag pump on my setup now with no issues. are the ehiem pumps better? ill check out the other options for overflows. i saw one neat one that just sits at the top of the water line. gotta find the name Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

09/30/2016, 10:01 AM	#15
Cyproz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 135	i found these overflows called H2Overflow. very neat idea Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

09/30/2016, 01:19 PM	#16
Wazzel Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 4,743	Tank: Planet Aquarium 120 rimless, external over flow Light: AI Hydra 52 (4) Return: Sicce Syncra 3.0 (2) Powerheads: Maxspec Gyre 130 (2) Skimmer: Vertex Omega 180 Sump: 40 breeder DIY ATO: 20 gallon standard aquarium, Smart ATO __________________ Mark Beware the light at the end of the tunnel. Sometimes it's a train. Current Tank Info: 120, LED, Bare Bottom, SPS/LPS

09/30/2016, 02:49 PM	#17
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	My Aqueon 120DT/40b sump uses the following: Return Pump - eheim 1262 Reactors - 1 x BRS for carbon, and a TLF 150 for GFO, both run off a manifold from the return Skimmer - ASMG2 w/ gate valve mod Dosing pumps - 2 x BRS Drew's Dosers with 2 digital lamp timers Lighting - 2 x AI Sol Blue set to 45W/65B/65RB 12on/12off with a short ramp up/down. ~12" above water Powerheads - 4 x Koralia 1500gph, 2 on all the time, the other 2 alternate in short intervals SPS are growing out of control to the point that I'll be fragging again after 3 months to the tune of 60+ frags. The LPS are doing just as well. 9 or 10 fish, the largest being a Tomini Tang. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

09/30/2016, 05:13 PM	#18
Bluefish9 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Massapequa, NY Posts: 225	120 Gal 4x2x2 what equipment are you running? I have a build going on with the same footprint. 150g xh build http://test.reefcentral.com/forums/s...php?p=24700131 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09/30/2016, 08:08 PM	#19
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	I would also recommend the Fluvial SP 4 for a return pump. Ahem are also a very good pump. I have a Iwaki 30 for my 120 tank.

10/01/2016, 07:10 AM	#20
tom obrecht Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: WI Posts: 3,014	I'll chime in. I ran 2-250 halides with radiums in lumen bright reflectors along with t5 actinics for supplements. Skimmer was an ATB 1050 deluxe which is oversized but it did pull a ton out of the water. I had plans to upgrade in size down the road so I purchased this skimmer. Return pump was a Reef Octopus RC pump. Nice to have ability to increase or decrease flow with a touch of a button. Sump was a 125 tank that once again was put in place to handle the eventual increase of tank size down the road. I ran 4 tunze 6095's in the display. __________________ Reef keeping is where Murphy's Law and your bank account collide!! TOTM May 2006

10/01/2016, 07:46 AM	#21
Lowefx Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Winchester, VA Posts: 695	I have 4x2x2 with starphire front glass. Lighting: 48" 2×150w mh, 4x52w T5 retrofit Sump:30 gal Powerhead: MP40 2x koralia's Return:mag 5 I think I'm still going thru a cycle. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

10/01/2016, 02:39 PM	#23
FirstContact Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glenn Dale, MD Posts: 1,613	120g Marineland Sump: 150g Rubbermaid Skimmer: Skimz Kone SK222 Return: Waveline 12000 with Manifold and Line for Refugium Reactor: Precision Marine for GFO Lights: Orphek V2 Round Pendants (2) 9 Inches Above Tank CH1 35 CH2 75 CH3 35 CH4 35 Filtration: Filter Socks Refugium: 20g Tall with Chaeto Refugium Lighting: T5 Refugium Powerhead: Sicce Extreme Powerheads: Jebao R15 (2) Cal/Alk: MRC Kalk Reactor Control: Vertex Cerebra ATO: Tunze Osmolator 32g Brute Hooked Up to Kalk Reactor __________________ No man is an island entire of itself; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. John Donne Current Tank Info: 120g Reef 100g Rubbermaid Sump, 20g Refugium; previous tank: 46g Drilled; Self Plumbed, Birds Nest, Anchor, Xenia, Zoas, Yuma Yuma Ricordea, Chalice, Mushrooms, Brain, Acan, Anenome Plate; Clams, Other Inverts, Fish, Live Rock Last edited by FirstContact; 10/01/2016 at 03:13 PM.

10/01/2016, 03:00 PM	#24
RobSpeed13 Registered Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 63	got a 110G myself though 200G of water as i have attached a 50G frag tank. Bought the 110 Reef ready for $500 with everything, sump, lights, return pump plumbing Pump-Coralife TurboSea1090 i believe, thinking of switching to EcoTech L1 or m1 40G sump Reef Octopus skimmer going to run 2 Nano Box Quad wides 2 mp40's quite drives excuse the messiness as i just changed the plumbing to PVC and was doing a leak test. made a mess of water under the sump haha. Sadly cant set these two tanks up yet as we are doing the tile to the house as you can see in these photos.