drummereef's 180g in-wall build - Page 102

drummereef · 03/13/2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 110galreef

Have yet to see my LM nip at an SPS base.....

So did you get one from the LFS?

I will have some pics uploaded tonight.

110galreef · 03/13/2011, 07:44 PM

Hahaha....Sweet

drummereef · 03/13/2011, 08:39 PM

UPDATE:

The new addition...

Greenmaster · 03/13/2011, 09:07 PM

Nice new addition to the tank. I see he is already eyeballing the algae on the snail

duncantse · 03/13/2011, 09:20 PM

Nice fish you got there. How long are you going to wait till you add your next fish?

Powederblue · 03/13/2011, 09:33 PM

gotta love the algae blennies, such personality.

reeftanknewbie · 03/14/2011, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Powederblue

gotta love the algae blennies, such personality.

Agreed, they are one of my favorites. Only problem for me was about a year later when my tank was Algae free I couldn't get him to eat and he starved to death.......Too afraid to try another one.....

110galreef · 03/14/2011, 09:23 AM

awesome, i bet you see him chowing away & getting a little fat at first!

drummereef · 03/14/2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenmaster

Nice new addition to the tank. I see he is already eyeballing the algae on the snail

Thanks Green. Yeah he was nipping at that snail's shell right before the pic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncantse

Nice fish you got there. How long are you going to wait till you add your next fish?

Who knows?

I'm so paranoid about adding fish. I just want to make sure my new additions will be with me for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Powederblue

gotta love the algae blennies, such personality.

He's definitely a character.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeftanknewbie

Agreed, they are one of my favorites. Only problem for me was about a year later when my tank was Algae free I couldn't get him to eat and he starved to death.......Too afraid to try another one.....

That's no good...

I saw him go after a little flake last night so hopefully this one can be trained.

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Originally Posted by 110galreef

awesome, i bet you see him chowing away & getting a little fat at first!

Oh yeah, as soon as he found his new home he was out looking for dinner. He was eying the bigger pieces of algae but no takers yet, but plenty of nipping at the rocks.

drummereef · 03/14/2011, 08:47 PM

UPDATE:

Some pics for you.

Came home and saw some Cerith Snail eggs on the glass.

Closeup of the eggs.

And a couple coral closeups...

psteeleb · 03/14/2011, 09:10 PM

great pictures Brett

love the LMB and those corals are looking awesome, nice encrusting growth and great colors

duncantse · 03/14/2011, 09:16 PM

Do you QT your fish or not?

drummereef · 03/14/2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by psteeleb

great pictures Brett

love the LMB and those corals are looking awesome, nice encrusting growth and great colors

Thanks Pete. He's quite the character. He's already eating the nuisance algae/cyano I want gone so that's a good thing.

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Originally Posted by duncantse

Do you QT your fish or not?

The 3 fish I currently have in the tank, no. I've had the Yellow Tang for years, transferred him from the old system once this one was up and running. The other two were at the LFS in hypo and copper for a few weeks so it's not to say they are completely safe but it's a better shot I suppose. I tried QT'ing 5 Blue-Green Chromis and lost all of them within 3 days. Don't know exactly what happened but that QT experience wasn't the most pleasant.

iwishtofish · 03/14/2011, 10:39 PM

Great pictures - I hope you don't ever get tired of taking (and posting) them as your tank evolves! It's really hard not love the personality of the lawnmowers. Grinchy-looking little things...

Are you getting coralline growth lately on the Marco Rock?

afernandez · 03/14/2011, 11:31 PM

Really nice PE! I've been slaking when it comes to posting but I'm here ! Lol

tegee · 03/15/2011, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by drummereef

The 3 fish I currently have in the tank, no. I've had the Yellow Tang for years, transferred him from the old system once this one was up and running. The other two were at the LFS in hypo and copper for a few weeks so it's not to say they are completely safe but it's a better shot I suppose. I tried QT'ing 5 Blue-Green Chromis and lost all of them within 3 days. Don't know exactly what happened but that QT experience wasn't the most pleasant.

Funny you mentioned that experience, well not funny that they all died, but I had the very same experience last month Qt-ing a shippment of fish I received. All four died within 5-days and this was after I setup a nice QT system.

What do you feel was the cause? I reviewed my entire QT process with the LFS that I purchased and they felt there was too much flow in my setup for the fish the acclimate properly??? I have since made minor adjustments to my setup to assure better success. Wish I had a better answer and/or cause and interested in your experience.

110galreef · 03/15/2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by drummereef

Came home and saw some Cerith Snail eggs on the glass.

So thats what that is.....

I had that like 2 times now on my acrylic! 1st time i had no clue what it was....2nd time i saw it following a snail & just figured it was sort of slime trail!

Guess I was wrong!

drummereef · 03/15/2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwishtofish

Great pictures - I hope you don't ever get tired of taking (and posting) them as your tank evolves! It's really hard not love the personality of the lawnmowers. Grinchy-looking little things...

Are you getting coralline growth lately on the Marco Rock?

As long as there are people interested in my tank I'll never get tired of sharing.

I'm getting some coralline, not anywhere near a complete covering of the rocks but I have a few nice patches. I'm also getting some purple growing on the overflows as well. There's some neat colors like bright orange that are showing up in places. Kind of cool.

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Originally Posted by afernandez

Really nice PE! I've been slaking when it comes to posting but I'm here ! Lol

Thanks afernandez. Glad you stopped in to take a peek. Glad to have you around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tegee

Funny you mentioned that experience, well not funny that they all died, but I had the very same experience last month Qt-ing a shippment of fish I received. All four died within 5-days and this was after I setup a nice QT system.

What do you feel was the cause? I reviewed my entire QT process with the LFS that I purchased and they felt there was too much flow in my setup for the fish the acclimate properly??? I have since made minor adjustments to my setup to assure better success. Wish I had a better answer and/or cause and interested in your experience.

Sorry to hear about your experience. I'm not exactly sure what happened but my Chromis were bought at a local fish store. Looked like they were doing well in the tank at the store so I bought them. I'm guessing stress of QT, not acclimating to a stable environment. Or just possibly malnutrition. I tried feeding Rods, Flake, Pellet and they wouldn't eat. Might of fared better feeding them if they had been placed in the display from the beginning. Not totally sure...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 110galreef

So thats what that is.....

I had that like 2 times now on my acrylic! 1st time i had no clue what it was....2nd time i saw it following a snail & just figured it was sort of slime trail!

Guess I was wrong!

Ha! Yep, snail eggs.

jjwill_sdsu · 03/15/2011, 02:09 PM

How's the zeo cocktail going? Have you noticed a difference in your coral colors and/or water parameters?

drummereef · 03/15/2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jjwill_sdsu

How's the zeo cocktail going? Have you noticed a difference in your coral colors and/or water parameters?

Hey jjwill_sdsu.

I've backed off the Coral Snow somewhat, dosing 2x weekly now. I'll update everyone on the full dosing schedule tonight - or at least where it currently stands... I was very pleased with how effective it was in battling the filamentous cyano that is in the tank, as the pictures on previous pages showed. I'm still trying to get balance how much AAHC to dose throughout the week without creating a hair algae bloom. I haven't dosed much in the last couple weeks but have dose 2 times in very small doses this week. The Magic Brew I was dosing absolutely helped with polyp extension and added a little bit of color but still trying to get the right balance while avoiding any unnecessary blooms.

I have an update tonight on something else I'm working on so I'll fill you in on the details then...

dhickey · 03/15/2011, 05:15 PM

2 days and 2545 posts later, I'm all caught up. I learned tons from WaterKeepers newbie tank setup guide...long but good read. Now, I jumped onto your thread. The biggest thing I learned from you is that I don't know anything yet!

Really awesome build tons of info (which alot was over my head still), but entertaining all the way! Thanks alot!

Right now I am brand new to this, and I am trying to get a plan together for a small tank (55-75 gal range). I'm still trying to figure out where to start, actually I know that one, Tank, RODI, and salt mix! After that is where it gets fuzzy!

Anyway just wanted to chime in and say good job!

David

afernandez · 03/15/2011, 07:30 PM

nice cant wait!!!

crvz · 03/15/2011, 07:51 PM

cool new fish, Brett, I hope it does well for you.

drummereef · 03/15/2011, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhickey

2 days and 2545 posts later, I'm all caught up. I learned tons from WaterKeepers newbie tank setup guide...long but good read. Now, I jumped onto your thread. The biggest thing I learned from you is that I don't know anything yet!

Really awesome build tons of info (which alot was over my head still), but entertaining all the way! Thanks alot!

Right now I am brand new to this, and I am trying to get a plan together for a small tank (55-75 gal range). I'm still trying to figure out where to start, actually I know that one, Tank, RODI, and salt mix! After that is where it gets fuzzy!

Anyway just wanted to chime in and say good job!

David

Thanks so much for the compliment David.

I'm sure your build will be great! Let me know if there's anything I can help you with.

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Originally Posted by afernandez

nice cant wait!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by crvz

cool new fish, Brett, I hope it does well for you.

Thanks Chris. Me too!

drummereef · 03/15/2011, 10:08 PM

UPDATE:

So I thought I would update you on the current dosing schedule. I've made some changes in the last week so I'm still dialing it in.

The current schedule is:

1tsp ZEOzym / 9 drops Bio-Mate (Sun/Mon/Wed/Fri)
6 drops AAHC (Tues)
"Magic Brew" 9ml Coral Snow / 3 drops ZEObak / 6 drops AAHC (1x weekly after water change)

As mentioned, I started a new dosing regimen using a different set of KZ products. These are ZEOzym and Bio-Mate. ZEOzym is an enzyme based supplement that help break down proteins and increase bacterial metabolism. Bio-Mate is a bacterial supplement designed to "clean" rock and substrates. They can be used separately but work well when dosed in combination. Usually dosed a couple times per week, I'm dosing more frequently to see if it continues to help break down the mulm on my rock and sand.

Here's a rock before starting the ZEOzym / Bio-Mate dosing taken a few weeks ago. As you can see there is a "mulm" buildup on the rock. This is what the combination is specifically designed to break down.

And here's a rock after a couple weeks of dosing the mixture. Notice the "mulm" is significantly reduced and you can see the pores of the rock again. From my experience this combination works as suggested.

03/13/2011, 07:44 PM	#2527
110galreef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 2,466	Hahaha....Sweet __________________ Inwall Basement Setup w/ Growout Tank & Common Acrylic sump, SRO XP3000E, Neptune Apex, Bubble Magus Triple Doser, CLS- Super Dart Gold + OM 4way, 2-400w MH & 4-80w T-5, ROX .08 carbon...

03/13/2011, 08:39 PM	#2528
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	UPDATE: The new addition... __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system Last edited by Misled; 04/08/2018 at 07:03 PM.

03/13/2011, 09:07 PM	#2529
Greenmaster Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 700	Nice new addition to the tank. I see he is already eyeballing the algae on the snail __________________ If you want to follow my 320g tall tank build/experiment click the search at the top of the page type in "320g" select "Search Titles Only" then click search. The "320g build/journey/experiment :-)" with more then one page is the one you want. Current Tank Info: 320g Build in progress

03/14/2011, 09:23 AM	#2533
110galreef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Toledo OH Posts: 2,466	awesome, i bet you see him chowing away & getting a little fat at first! __________________ Inwall Basement Setup w/ Growout Tank & Common Acrylic sump, SRO XP3000E, Neptune Apex, Bubble Magus Triple Doser, CLS- Super Dart Gold + OM 4way, 2-400w MH & 4-80w T-5, ROX .08 carbon...

03/14/2011, 08:47 PM	#2535
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	UPDATE: Some pics for you. Came home and saw some Cerith Snail eggs on the glass. Closeup of the eggs. And a couple coral closeups... __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system Last edited by Misled; 04/08/2018 at 07:03 PM.

03/13/2011, 09:20 PM	#2530
duncantse Fish Advisor Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,604	Nice fish you got there. How long are you going to wait till you add your next fish?

03/13/2011, 09:33 PM	#2531
Powederblue Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dover Posts: 100	gotta love the algae blennies, such personality.

03/14/2011, 09:10 PM	#2536
psteeleb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 5,249	great pictures Brett love the LMB and those corals are looking awesome, nice encrusting growth and great colors __________________ A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner Current Tank Info: 110g Mixed Reef, LED's & T5's

03/14/2011, 09:16 PM	#2537
duncantse Fish Advisor Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,604	Do you QT your fish or not?

03/14/2011, 10:39 PM	#2539
iwishtofish Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 4,949	Great pictures - I hope you don't ever get tired of taking (and posting) them as your tank evolves! It's really hard not love the personality of the lawnmowers. Grinchy-looking little things... Are you getting coralline growth lately on the Marco Rock?

03/14/2011, 11:31 PM	#2540
afernandez Never Quit!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new york city! Posts: 1,505	Really nice PE! I've been slaking when it comes to posting but I'm here ! Lol __________________ Arlin- Take your time and do it right. Current Tank Info: 120g Apex controller, (2) mp40w Es ,(3) Mp10W Es, Alfa vertex 170, 8 bulb ATI Dimable Sunpower,REEFOCTOPUS-BB-10000, Tunze Ato . 21G MINI-Reef, 250w MH, Mp10Wes

03/15/2011, 02:09 PM	#2544
jjwill_sdsu Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arnold, MO Posts: 316	How's the zeo cocktail going? Have you noticed a difference in your coral colors and/or water parameters? __________________ "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research." - Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 144 gallon half cylinder, 40 gal sump, mixed reef, 2x250W MH

03/15/2011, 05:15 PM	#2546
dhickey Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 59	Wow 2 days and 2545 posts later, I'm all caught up. I learned tons from WaterKeepers newbie tank setup guide...long but good read. Now, I jumped onto your thread. The biggest thing I learned from you is that I don't know anything yet! Really awesome build tons of info (which alot was over my head still), but entertaining all the way! Thanks alot! Right now I am brand new to this, and I am trying to get a plan together for a small tank (55-75 gal range). I'm still trying to figure out where to start, actually I know that one, Tank, RODI, and salt mix! After that is where it gets fuzzy! Anyway just wanted to chime in and say good job! David

03/15/2011, 07:30 PM	#2547
afernandez Never Quit!! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new york city! Posts: 1,505	nice cant wait!!! __________________ Arlin- Take your time and do it right. Current Tank Info: 120g Apex controller, (2) mp40w Es ,(3) Mp10W Es, Alfa vertex 170, 8 bulb ATI Dimable Sunpower,REEFOCTOPUS-BB-10000, Tunze Ato . 21G MINI-Reef, 250w MH, Mp10Wes

03/15/2011, 07:51 PM	#2548
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	cool new fish, Brett, I hope it does well for you. __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

03/15/2011, 10:08 PM	#2550
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	UPDATE: So I thought I would update you on the current dosing schedule. I've made some changes in the last week so I'm still dialing it in. The current schedule is: 1tsp ZEOzym / 9 drops Bio-Mate (Sun/Mon/Wed/Fri) 6 drops AAHC (Tues) "Magic Brew" 9ml Coral Snow / 3 drops ZEObak / 6 drops AAHC (1x weekly after water change) As mentioned, I started a new dosing regimen using a different set of KZ products. These are ZEOzym and Bio-Mate. ZEOzym is an enzyme based supplement that help break down proteins and increase bacterial metabolism. Bio-Mate is a bacterial supplement designed to "clean" rock and substrates. They can be used separately but work well when dosed in combination. Usually dosed a couple times per week, I'm dosing more frequently to see if it continues to help break down the mulm on my rock and sand. Here's a rock before starting the ZEOzym / Bio-Mate dosing taken a few weeks ago. As you can see there is a "mulm" buildup on the rock. This is what the combination is specifically designed to break down. And here's a rock after a couple weeks of dosing the mixture. Notice the "mulm" is significantly reduced and you can see the pores of the rock again. From my experience this combination works as suggested. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system Last edited by Misled; 04/08/2018 at 07:04 PM.