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I about to do something similar. Thanks for the step by step. I am going to use a lot of your great ideas!
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I had not thought of painting the thickness of the wall black. Nice.
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Why jot plumb in a separate frag tank, that's always fun . Something like a long or a breeder tank, or build your own frag tank that is shallow, like 8 or 10 inches. Besides, you have that nice fish room, you might as well put some cool stuff in it. Then build shelves into the stand as an excuse to store things and store your ATO or something underneath. Good Luck.
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Brett, Great thread. I'm in the mist of doing my own inwall, and I'm at the point of framing the wall. What height did you put your tank at from the floor? Do you have anything in front of the tank? Table, couch? Just trying to get some ideas.
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Question for you guys... Do you think sand in the bottom of the refugium is a good or bad idea. Will it cause issues down the road? Take into account the water level in the stock tank is ~21" deep and will initially be lit with a single 6500K compact fluorescent bulb until I can incorporate an LED setup. If I add various macros besides just Chaeto do they need a substrate besides rock to attach and grow?
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Keep it SIMPLE....as I always and keep saying. If you need sand for some of the plants...use some sort of small container and confine the sand to that and just for the plant. But i don't think they will need sand. Maybe put some smaller rock rubble in a container for the roots to swirls and grab in?? sand just more to worry about and will make hard to suck detritus out of the stock tank.
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If you want mangroves or something, keep that secluded. I would personally creat some sort of removable platform to keep the rock off the very bottom so that you can easily clean the bottom. If you could keep the rock on some sort of removable tray so that you could pick it up and swish it around I think you would be best off doing that.
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Brett,
This is a great question to ask before taking the steps into incorporating a refugium into your system. Especially when your system is already established. The biggest desicion to consider with refugiums when you are going to use one is what kind of refugium will it be. There are basically two different kinds of refugiums that you can use. 1) The DSB (DEEP SAND BED) Refugium, this refugium will house ~4" of sand or mud of some kind, some live rock (1 to 1.5 Lbs. per gallon of water volume), and some kind of macro algae (calurpa, cheato, or otherwise). - I used this style refugium for my 105, and i used this product. http://www.caribsea.com/itempage_ref...tor_theark.htm 2) The BB (BARE BOTTOM) Refugium. This style of refugium is all about the same as above, without the sand. without the sand however you will not be able to "root" any macro algae or mangroves except for on your L.R. So in this case it would be advantageous to include a separate area for your Mangroves, or create a small rack out of some egg crate to secure them in. Both of these methods have there merits, both of these methods have their faults. It is truly up to YOU and your personal opinion of how you would like to maintain this area of your system. You will do good to light the refugium with around a 6500K light (LED will work too). I hope this has helped you at least a little. |
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Getting close guys. 24 gallons of saltwater in the fuge so far. Last night I did the final leveling of the platform and greased up all the unions in preparation for startup. Shouldn't be long now...
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With a tub that big I would definitely try a deep sand bed.. It would be a shame not to.
The benefits from a dsb are worth the try.
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very nice set up i have 20' long wall right against my garage and i want to set up similar and i am trying to convence my wife but so far no luck
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Looks great Brett
I'd probably opt to set up a mini mangrove/DSB tray in there using a small tupperware type container. Maybe something like 24"x 12" x 6-8" deep that is self contained so the tank could be easily cleaned of other detritus etc. I'd also elevate it just below the water level so you could keep live rock under it. Just a thought, again looking great.
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Yeah, DSB would be perfect. Your denitrification would be second to none and your little algae blooms would disappear as well.
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Rock is in along with 48 gallons of saltwater! Still need about 5-10 more gallons to get the water level high enough to overflow the drains, but I'm going to let the rock settle in for a couple days before I connect it to the system. With the rock spread out on the bottom of the tank I will have ~12" of free space above the rock. So, you can see where I'm having some space issues... If I "partition" the free water space above the rock, left side / right side, I would possibly be able to incorporate a mangrove area and macro area - and just let the rock hang out in the bottom of the tank. It wouldn't get much light down there but I'm not sure that matters. Any input would be welcome. Here's the pics...
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Mangroves don't do much for nutrient removal, but if you want something green sticking out of the water go for it
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The Tang Heaven Red that IPSF sells is great food for herbivores as well.
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