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Unread 05/14/2012, 04:54 AM   #2451
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Current Equipment: 49gal tall tank, 65 gal coralife super skimmer, 50gal rated magnum canister filter, 55 gal Rena filter converted to fuge w/ chaeto and 5 red mangroves , Hydor koralia 2 (x2) powerheads , maxijet 400 powerhead, Coralife Power compact 10,000 k & actinic. Marina 1.14w LED for Fuge.
Cycling for two weeks w/ small nitrate spike (20 ppm).

Intended Equipment: one more powermover 3000 l/h? (to blow directly on gorgonian)

Animals in the mail: reef cleaner package 10 dwaft blue leg hermits, 5 nassarius snails, 5 nerith snails. First seeding of amiphipods and copapods.

Intended Fish:
Pair Black & White Occys
Orange Spot Prawn Goby
Tail Spot Blenny
Cherub Angel

fish list sounds fine

Intended Inverts:
Halloween Hermits 3?
Electric Blue Hermit 3?
Scarlet Hermits 3?
"Little Red" fromia starfish 1

I am not a fan of hermit crabs or crabs of any sort.

Intended Corals: Birdsnest, Blastomussa merletti, Whisker coral, Scroll coral, Frogspawn, Nepthia Leather, star polyp, Photosynthetic Frilly Purple Gorgonian (Live Aquaria), zoas, Mushroom Leather & Button polyps, Blue & Superman mushroom polyps ......and maybe one day Black & Yellow Sun polyps & a Chili coral.

This thread is about fish compatibility so I do not comment on corals


Plan on letting tank continue cycling for another 2-3 months with cleaner pack only while building our liverock structure with epoxy and seeding different pods every 2 weeks till nitrate is 0 and pods are well established.

Does this list sound good?

Should we add fish or corals first?
Good plan, fish or corals can be first or mixed


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Unread 05/14/2012, 09:14 AM   #2452
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tank 180 LR filtration with a large sump w/ chaeto skimmer. 9 fish, 5 gbta, coral banded shrimp, peppermint shrimp fire shrimp and a Harlequin shrimp lots of zoa/palys and some sps
a friend offered to give me a small Niger Triggerfish for free should should I take it? its still small about 3 inches. it feeds from your hand.



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tank 180 LR filtration with a large sump w/ chaeto skimmer. 9 fish, 5 gbta, coral banded shrimp, peppermint shrimp fire shrimp and a Harlequin shrimp lots of zoa/palys and some sps
a friend offered to give me a small Niger Triggerfish for free should should I take it? its still small about 3 inches. it feeds from your hand.
Niger triggers can go either way: passive (at least for triggers but most call all triggers aggressive) or total terrors. In any case, your inverts will be toast. Triggers are really for FOWLR with aggressive tank mates.


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Unread 05/14/2012, 10:04 AM   #2454
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I have a 40B that's been up and running for 6 months. More details in my sig. I have a few corals (2 zooa frags, small colt coral, 2 small leather corals, GSP rock, small patch of anthelia's and a few mushrooms). I have a full spectrum of snails and a fairly well populated 2" sandbed (purchased spaghetti worms, amphopods, and bristle worms). Right now the sand and rocks are crawling with pods. Anyway, it's time to get a couple of fish. (My wife wants to know when I am finally going to put fish in the fish tank, go figure!)

I was thinking about:
A couple of clownfish? Which species is the least aggressive and will be ok in a 40 gal tank? I think I remember reading somewhere that it is best to get two. Is that correct?

And I was thinking of a royal gramma

Would these guys get along?

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I have a 40B that's been up and running for 6 months. More details in my sig. I have a few corals (2 zooa frags, small colt coral, 2 small leather corals, GSP rock, small patch of anthelia's and a few mushrooms). I have a full spectrum of snails and a fairly well populated 2" sandbed (purchased spaghetti worms, amphopods, and bristle worms). Right now the sand and rocks are crawling with pods. Anyway, it's time to get a couple of fish. (My wife wants to know when I am finally going to put fish in the fish tank, go figure!)

I was thinking about:
A couple of clownfish? Which species is the least aggressive and will be ok in a 40 gal tank? I think I remember reading somewhere that it is best to get two. Is that correct?

When getting a pair, it is important to get very small ones and let them figure out who will be female. Amphiprion percula or ocellaris would be best. (I am not a big believer in "designer clowns", which are modified versions of the preceding, but those would also work)

And I was thinking of a royal gramma

Would these guys get along?

Yes

Comments and suggestions are welcome.
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Oh, by the way, my tank has suspended lights and is not covered. Are the above mentioned fish jumpers? I'd really prefer not to have to cover the tank unless absolutely necessary. Thanks again,
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Oh, by the way, my tank has suspended lights and is not covered. Are the above mentioned fish jumpers? I'd really prefer not to have to cover the tank unless absolutely necessary. Thanks again,
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All fish can jump. Those above do not have a high propensity for jumping.


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Thank you Snorvich, your expertise is appreciated.
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Unread 05/14/2012, 01:04 PM   #2459
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Good plan, fish or corals can be first or mixed
Thank you so much for your time, it is so nice to get a veterans advice....we know a little but it's hard know for sure because every book, article and thread has different opinions.

Sorry for the coral faux pas....oops

I will post that elsewhere and pay closer attention next time...



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Thank you so much for your time....we know a little but it's hard know for sure because every book, article and thread has different opinions.

Sorry for the coral faux pas....oops

I will post that elsewhere and pay closer attention next time...
Oh it was not a faux pas at all. I simply limit the thread to very fish related questions. Yes, there are a wealth of opinions around, some more valid than others. In general, be wary of "I heard that . . . " or "I read that . . ." because the context is not given and it can make all the difference in the world.


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Is there a reason you don't like Hermits? I ask because sites like Live Aquaria would have folks believe that they are essential to keeping detritus levels down and should be kept in fairly large numbers to do so? I like them ok but can be persuaded otherwise if what I've read is untrue.


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Is there a reason you don't like Hermits? I ask because sites like Live Aquaria would have folks believe that they are essential to keeping detritus levels down and should be kept in fairly large numbers to do so? I like them ok but can be persuaded otherwise if what I've read is untrue.
I prefer snails of various kinds. Hermits are opportunistic and kill snails for their shells. There are many animals that will reduce detritus, look at the various snails that Live Aquaria sells for descriptions.


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Heres what I have, Blue damsel, neon damsel, green chromis, six line wrasse, bi-colored dottyback, pucula clown, diamond goby, peppermint shrimp, a few hermits and snails.

i have a few softies. kenya tree, various shrooms, star polyps and zoas.

I would like to get a yellow tang and flame angel as my last fishes. What are your thoughts on this.

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Thanks snorvich for the info


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Thanks snorvich for the info
You have a lot of very aggressive fish so the flame angel will be problematic. We recommend a yellow tang be kept in a 100 gallon tank as a minimum.


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GLAUCUS ATLANTICUS. not sure where to post this maybe here? I want one bad.I like odd creatures.


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GLAUCUS ATLANTICUS. not sure where to post this maybe here? I want one bad.I like odd creatures.
Unfortunately Glaucus atlanticus and its close relative, Glaucilla marginata, live in close association with the siphonophores such as Physalia, Velella, Porpita and the other associated animals including the "Violet snails" of the genus Janthina. All these animals float on the surface of the ocean being carried by the currents and the winds. Most of us are only aware of their existence when days of onshore winds blow great fleets of them on to the beaches, causing pain and angst for swimmers. They are venomous and will not be successfully kept in home aquaria. For additional information, post in Reef Discussion or Invertebrates. This thread is about fish and I will not be providing additional information here.


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Hi, im looking to set up my new tank 20 gallons to start and i may switch to a bigger tank in about a year when i have more room I already have a bigger tank but since im in college still gotta make due with the space i have. so my plan this far after some research is and most likely in this order:
Clean Up Crew not sure for this yet
(2) Blue Chromis or Green Chromis would rather blue
(2) Ocellaris Clowns
(1) Yellow Watchman Goby with a Shrimp for it to pair with Pistol Shrimp i dont know if anything else would work (what i would rather is a fire shrimp but i dont know if they will pair) (would it be possible to have 2 shrimp)
(1)Royal Gramma or Red Tail Fire Fish

I dont know if this will be too much and it probably is but this is my idea if i need a bigger tank i will stop at whatever point that is and not continue until i have my bigger tank up but until then i would like to know how well these fish will work together.

Forgot to add: i will have 20lbs or live rock a 425gph power head and a 200gph aquaclear filter no protein skimmer yet



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Hello,

I have a 55 with 50+ lbs of live rock, hammer coral, wet dry sump with protein skimmer and a couple power heads. The water parameters are in good shape.

I have 2 clowns and am thinking about buying a watchman goby and pistol shrimp combo. I am ordering them from Live Aqueria and want to add another fish to the order since I am paying the overnight shipping.

Any suggestions for an inexpensive colorful fish that would get along with what I have?

I appreciate the time, thanks!


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Hi, im looking to set up my new tank 20 gallons to start and i may switch to a bigger tank in about a year when i have more room I already have a bigger tank but since im in college still gotta make due with the space i have. so my plan this far after some research is and most likely in this order:
Clean Up Crew not sure for this yet
(2) Blue Chromis or Green Chromis would rather blue
(2) Ocellaris Clowns
(1) Yellow Watchman Goby with a Shrimp for it to pair with Pistol Shrimp i dont know if anything else would work (what i would rather is a fire shrimp but i dont know if they will pair) (would it be possible to have 2 shrimp)
(1)Royal Gramma or Red Tail Fire Fish

The watchman goby, pistol shrimp, and either a royal gramma or firefish would be about right. More than one shrimp would work, however.

I dont know if this will be too much and it probably is but this is my idea if i need a bigger tank i will stop at whatever point that is and not continue until i have my bigger tank up but until then i would like to know how well these fish will work together.

Forgot to add: i will have 20lbs or live rock a 425gph power head and a 200gph aquaclear filter no protein skimmer yet



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Hello,

I have a 55 with 50+ lbs of live rock, hammer coral, wet dry sump with protein skimmer and a couple power heads. The water parameters are in good shape.

I have 2 clowns and am thinking about buying a watchman goby and pistol shrimp combo. I am ordering them from Live Aqueria and want to add another fish to the order since I am paying the overnight shipping.

Any suggestions for an inexpensive colorful fish that would get along with what I have?

I appreciate the time, thanks!
The watchman goby and pistol shrimjp would be fine. Unfortunately I do not do recommendations for a variety of reasons. Also, depending on the species of clownfish, what may or may not work will vary.


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The watchman goby and pistol shrimjp would be fine. Unfortunately I do not do recommendations for a variety of reasons. Also, depending on the species of clownfish, what may or may not work will vary.
Understandable and thanks!


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I am currently cycling a 75 gal with hob skimmer, 70 lbs of Manado live rock and 2" substrate. Please check my stocking ideas and give me any advice on potential better matches for my tank. The setup will be fowlr, btw.

Stocking list in order
Yellow Watchman Goby
Pair of False Percula Clowns
Yellow Coris Wrasse
Lawnmower Blenny
Valentini Toby
Royal Gramma
Coral Beauty
Azure Damsel

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I am currently cycling a 75 gal with hob skimmer, 70 lbs of Manado live rock and 2" substrate. Please check my stocking ideas and give me any advice on potential better matches for my tank. The setup will be fowlr, btw.

Stocking list in order
Yellow Watchman Goby
Pair of False Percula Clowns
Yellow Coris Wrasse
Lawnmower Blenny
Valentini Toby this fish will fight with conspecifics such as the filefish, large finned fish, and other tobies. It may be aggressive at times, nipping the fins of tank mates, leaving a circular hole as its mark. As such, I do not recommend this fish
Royal Gramma
Coral Beauty
Azure Damsel pretty but aggressive and I would avoid

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated!



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Thanks for the feedback, Steve! If I remove the Toby and Damsel, is there anything else you would recommend with the others on my list?


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