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01/28/2011, 06:21 AM | #76 |
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yea before my scrubber I noticed that if I overfed my tank hair algae would take off in days but now with my ats I've been feed a bunches more(flakes, mysis, krill, etc). the gha is receding came back home just now from work and I can notice even more gha receding and turning pale. screen is getting powder green with gha strings now. wish I can post pcics through my phone some way but cant figure it out.
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http://reefcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=91 Also here are videos of his tank http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUl8FIQAxr0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58pOisX2vSs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDZtHf-xXCc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMdllQSKU2c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvF0ZbVX7w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOIx09XWYCo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7TnVm19td4
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From memory I believe this to be true because turf algae needs to take root on your screen before it will flourish, and grow. (again as you described)
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He does have a pretty nice looking tank. One of these days I'm going to try to incorporate one into my filtration set up.
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However, something is missing. I was just not seeing the same growth out of my SPS as I wished. Users with skimmers posting growth pics for a period of a few months were showing more growth than I was in six. I am by no means any sort of professional but have decided to go a different route in my future tank, who knows I may just switch back. |
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Zangmann, Could you please describe you ATS setup?
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2x needlepoint sheets from the craft store (10"x13" i think?)
4x 42w CFL changed every 3-4 months. Always wanted to do a LED setup, still may Lights are on 18 hours and off 6. 55 gallon tank, 1" drain into sump. QuietOne 3000 (780gph) for the return. Like I said everything is working fine, tons of pods everywhere. Red turf grows EVERYWHERE in my sump, have to clean it constantly. Just not getting the SPS growth I'm looking for. Chemistry is stable. |
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My 2.5" yellow tang pooping everywhere! Pretty sure the corals were fed, could be something to look at though. |
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Poop is coral food! I'm not really trying to argue here, just saying the ATS in MY situation was not working. The fish are happy, the tank is healthy. I just don't think that an ATS has the potential to be the lone source of filtration in a predominately SPS system.
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I think if you are going for tank of the month and want to go skimmerless-nano would be the way to go. Generally for a off the hook TOTM or crazy sps tank you need a good skimmer. That relagates the ATS to the same purpose a cheato-and its not worth the work. However if someone wants a nice tank- it can be done with ATS-or with cheato-or a skimmer- or any combination of these things and others. I personally don`t have tanks like i used to when I had the TOTM mentality. I am more into the natural look- and having growth be self limiting to the situation. I am tired of fragging and moving stuff- I am happy to just have a chunk of reef to look at and not care. I do think its bad form to harsh on anybodys tank though-and I thought it was really big of the picture poster not to take offnse.
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After using both I've come to the conclusion that I'd never run a reef tank without a scrubber. But I would run a reef without a skimmer. I could only have one, I'd pick the scrubber, no contest. Don't get my wrong, I'm not part of the "anti-skimmer" crowd. I use a skimmer. I've been running some form of protein skimmer for over 2 decades. I had one back in 1985 when all they were was a wooden airstone and a poorly designed venturi. I just won't rely on ONLY the skimmer anymore. I'll always have a simple turf scrubber on any reef that I have. |
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I think inland aquatics has some display tanks that could be TOTM- see if you can find pics. You need to remember, even though this is a big site- it comprises a very small % of the reef keeping population. The whole point to them using the system is growth- and they do it very well. As I said- I am not a advocate of ATS- I used to argue with the inventor about it frequently-but it can work.
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I just realized that I never posted my last harvest! First time measuring, came out to ONE CUP!
It would have been much more but it was very hard to collect the harvest into a measuring cup.
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I want to show my support for ATS's. When I set this 75 back up 4 years ago I battled with my EUROREEF skimmer for 7-8 months. Every couple of weeks it would go into overflow mode for a couple days and flow teh skimmate back into the tank. Things looked horrible every time it would overflow. Just got sick of dealing with it. I unplugged it and let the tank go. Three months with no attention. Almost tore it down. 90 days later when I scrubbed the front glass I was surprised to find that things had gotten better since turning off the skimmer. So i left it like that for about a year and a half. But hair and bubble algae had a serious foothold. I couldnt feed much. Then I read the articles on ATS's and eventually decided to try one. So I built a bucket scrubber and haven't looked back.
Is it tank of the month material? No. But my maintenance time is a lot less than those guys also. I still have great growth on corals and most important I enjoy the hobby again. My only source of cal/alk is kalk in the top-off water and I run a bag of chemipure hanging in the sump. I have not changed any water since June of 2010(30 gal). (I had a hot day prior to hooking my chiller up and things got a little soupy, stupid gamble and I lost a few corals). I have been running ats since Nov/Dec 2009. Anemones, tubeworms of all types(cocoworms), photosynth gorgs and LPS as well as green slimer and birdnest, pocillipora have all grown very well. These fotos are about 4 months ago. Will try to get some newer ones if you guys want. The slimer in teh upper left is much bigger now. |
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Your eating a lot of humble pie!! Your tank looks fanastic!
Thank you for posting, this should help others have some confidence with long term success using an Algae Turf Srcubber. Please share your setup with us all. I understand your just running a bucket scrubber, but a picture is worth a thousand words, right? Some more pictures of your tank couldn't hurt!...
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Those bubble tip nems are sweet..........if people find out they keep their bubbles in ATS systems, this type of filtration will explode in popularity.
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