April 17th FRAG meeting thread: Buy, Sell, Trade and Free!

Helfrichs Chic · 04/07/2010, 06:23 PM

Afternoon fellow fraggers! I wanted post the meeting thread up a little early this month in hopes that we will have a large turnout with lots of frags for sale and trade!! I will be there, so hope to see you all!

FRAG Meetings are from 2:00 p.m to 4:00 p.m
Prankster's Gar and Brill 2
7919 E. Thomas Rd. (SW corner of Thomas and Hayden)
Scottsdale, AZ 85251

Helfrichs Chic · 04/07/2010, 06:29 PM

With that said I'm looking to add some sweet goodies to my 110g since I'm finally caught up on my bills. Looking for nice millies,(Jesse sunset would be cool) nice digis, palys and zoas, montis and maybe a RBTA!!!! Lmk if ya have something for me

dalston · 04/07/2010, 08:01 PM

I have some of Jesse's sunset but it's not quite ready to be fragged yet. If you don't find any within the next month or so, I will have one for you free of charge. Just as a thank you for all you do for this community (day trips, t-shirts, name tags to name a few)

Also, if I can get a baby sitter, I should have a whole bunch of goodies, some caps, digis, other millis and a few different zoas for sale. Fingers crossed

ScrubberOTanky · 04/07/2010, 08:57 PM

Here is my list, its a long one this time, I have been busy, and things have piled up so to speak... also a few larger pieces left from the re-scape of the 29 that I dont feel go very well with the new theme. I will post pics as soon as I can, its a bunch of stuff, if you want to see anything specific, PM me

Here we go, prices reflect size and/or encrustedness/rareness/color (look a new word! lol)

SPS:

Green Slimer $5 & $10
Blue/Green Lokesi or gomezi? someone told me the name, I forget, its tort like? and absolutely beautiful! From a maricultured colony $25 & $30
Horrida? or similar to ORA purple plasma? got it from Garage over a year ago, this is the only frag I have but its a big one with many branches purple red and green? $30
DJ's Lime in the Sky Acro has light blue base with green coralites similar or the same as the one in the SPS forum thread. From a maricultured colony $15, $15, $10 (small guys, but way sweet!)
DJ's Incredible Hulk/Candlelight look alike acro yellow with hints of light purple and green $10, $15, $25
Blue Tenuis From AZSB $10 and $25 (larger is reserved for EVsalty if he wants it as he requested this branch from the mother some time ago)
A. Prostrada(Sp?) red/brown with blue coralites needs has some color changing to do $10, $20
DJ's Yellow Acro, maybe a yellow tenuis? $10, $15, $20
DJ's Grape Ape Bonsai acro Purple base NEON green polyps $10, $15
Tubbs Green Birdsnest super frag! 6 branches in putty on a clam shell $25
"PinKK" Digitata $10, $15
LA Lakers Turbinaria fresh cut 1-2" $25

LPS/Zoa/Etc

PRG Acan last frag left 11 heads $50
Orange Bam Bam zoa 14 heads $50
Pink Skirt Green ring Pink center zoas 5 polyps $20
Mint Green Paly colony could be Aqua Palys? too many heads to count $25
Green center frilly Moon paly colony 20+ heads $30
Brown/peach with green spot shroom colony $20
Teal/Blue shroom singles $10
Metallic Red shroom singles $10
Chalice (last large pieces left):
Bubble Gum Pink and Teal 3" $50
Pink/Pink eye 3" $50
Confetti Cake 3" very nice shape $75

May find some more stuff and or equipment to list, and like I said will work on pics, but lets make this a big meeting shall we!?

Helfrichs Chic · 04/07/2010, 09:12 PM

Dalston that sound great! Thanks! I'm interested in the caps if u can make it... Especially if they are they are big peices

and good color.

Scrubber: I will take a pinkk digi, slimer, and possibly more. 10$ frags. What size are we talking about? I would be ok with a mini colony of the digi if u have it, just tell me how much before u frag it. I want to add some nice acros but I'm only running 2 150s right now until I can find 2 250s so can't add anything that needs 400w lol.

That reminds me I have a 2x150 coralife with moonlights and pc that I can sell or trade. 250$? I'm looking for 2x250 SE halide setup. I can't afford the $650 set up I wanted so gonna have to see what else is out there.

ScrubberOTanky · 04/07/2010, 09:21 PM

Adrian,

I dont run 400s, that would fry my stuff, I have 12" of water

250w Phx14k all day pretty far from the surface too. should be ok under a 150 especially if its higher up.

Got you down for the digi and Slimer!

Helfrichs Chic · 04/07/2010, 09:24 PM

Yea that's what I am looking for... 2 250s and phenix bulbs. Just taking longer to gather funds being a single woman lol.

badfish · 04/07/2010, 10:22 PM

Scrub, I would like a $10 frag of green slimmer and a $10 frag of grape ape please.

Turbovr3six · 04/07/2010, 11:30 PM

DJ-- Acans, Yellow acro and grape ape please... and PM sent to Helfrichs Chic

ScrubberOTanky · 04/08/2010, 12:25 AM

Holy SNikeys!, Grape Ape sold out!

I will post an updated list with the pics tomorrow sometime...

Helfrich's, Badfish, TurboVR3Six, got you all down

rapture · 04/08/2010, 12:32 AM

I'm headed up there to say hi to everyone. Tank isn't set up quite yet but I could use some sump rock and some sand. Lmk a price. Its for a 29g aquapod so I don't need much to go in the back of the little bugar.

mndfreeze · 04/08/2010, 01:02 AM

I'm looking for deep blue and deep red SPS.

Turbovr3six · 04/08/2010, 01:28 AM

i cant make it to the meeting and dont hav anything fully ready for sale as of now.. i do have a 1" Jesse's Sunset Milli fresh cut if anyone is interested. $25

azshooz · 04/08/2010, 10:34 AM

Scrubber: Put me down for Blue/Green Lokesi or gomezi and a pink digi if you still have one available. Thanks mang....

And Turbo I'll take the LE Jesse ubermilli (I can make new words too!

)

usefulidiot213 · 04/08/2010, 11:46 AM

I will be there.. I just bought a 180gal, and I am going to need some frags!!
Rock The House

Alex0219 · 04/08/2010, 12:46 PM

I'm going to try to make it out, may pick up a few hardy frags if my parameters are still good.

Helfrichs Chic · 04/08/2010, 01:08 PM

I have 2 womens large FRAG t-shirts left too: $15.00

Frick · 04/08/2010, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helfrichs Chic

I have 2 womens large FRAG t-shirts left too: $15.00

Are there going to be more frag-shirts made in the near future?

Helfrichs Chic · 04/08/2010, 01:20 PM

Well I was thinking that if enough people are interested I can do some before the meeting... Need sizes asap. I can't order special colors this short notice but I can do white ones.

My shirt guy has mens larges and mens XL white in stock. The logo can be on either front or back. I will need pay pal in advance for the order as well as the size u want and where the logo is to go. Paypal Adrian@flyingraphics.com 15.00$

rapture · 04/08/2010, 02:21 PM

Trade for a 1/2 gallon of muratic acid? Lol. That stuff is nasty. My stepfather broughtme a gallon to play with. You'd be suprised what that stuff will do with a lil aluminum

usefulidiot213 · 04/08/2010, 03:08 PM

Ahhh... Nothing says awesome Friday night like playing with a little muratic acid...

ScrubberOTanky · 04/08/2010, 06:03 PM

Here is some visual stimulation for you guys, as well as updates:
SPS:

Green Slimer $5 & $10 1 piece left
Blue/Green Lokesi or gomezi? someone told me the name, I forget, its tort like? and absolutely beautiful! From a maricultured colony $25 & $30 2 pieces left
Horrida? or similar to ORA purple plasma? got it from Garage over a year ago, this is the only frag I have but its a big one with many branches purple red and green? $30
DJ's Lime in the Sky Acro has light blue base with green coralites similar or the same as the one in the SPS forum thread. From a maricultured colony $15, $15, $10 (small guys, but way sweet!)
DJ's Incredible Hulk/Candlelight look alike acro yellow with hints of light purple and green $10, $15, $25
Blue Tenuis From AZSB $10 and $25 (larger is no longer reserved)
A. Prostrada(Sp?) red/brown with blue coralites needs has some color changing to do $10, $20
DJ's Yellow Acro, maybe a yellow tenuis? $10, $15, $20 1 sold, many available
DJ's Grape Ape Bonsai acro Purple base NEON green polyps $10, $15 SOLD OUT!
Tubbs Green Birdsnest super frag! 6 branches in putty on a clam shell $25
"PinKK" Digitata $10, $15 1 sold, 2 left
LA Lakers Turbinaria fresh cut 1-2" $25

LPS/Zoa/Etc

PRG Acan last frag left 11 heads $50 SOLD
Orange Bam Bam zoa 14 heads $50
Pink Skirt Green ring Pink center zoas 5 polyps $20 SOLD
Mint Green Paly colony could be Aqua Palys? too many heads to count $25
Green center frilly Moon paly colony 20+ heads $30
Brown/peach with green spot shroom colony $20
Teal/Blue shroom singles $10
Metallic Red shroom singles $10
Chalice (last large pieces left):
Bubble Gum Pink and Teal 3" $50
Pink/Pink eye 3" $50
Confetti Cake 3" very nice shape $75

In this Pic: Green Slimer, LIme in the Sky Acro, and Blueish Green Lokesi/gomezi thingy (I guess its more of a blueish purple with green hints

)

In this pic: INcredible Hulk/Candlelight acro look alike, Blue Green lokesi/Gomezi thingy, Rainbow Acro (NFS for now), Garagse Fave UNkown?

In this Pic: Dj's Yellow tenuis, A. Prostrada, Grape Ape bonsai ( in the back), LA Lakers turbinaria in the front right

In this pic: Blue Tenuis ( no longer sold to Robert), A Prostrada, and in the middle the purple plasma horrida, a very nice frag if I do say so...

In this pic from L to R: BHubblegum chalice, Pink/Red chalice, Confetti Cake Chalice

In this pic: Tan with green dot shroom colony

In this pic: Teal blue/mint green Aquapaly colony

Sorry about the pics, the clear ones are using the iPhone and the magnifying glass trick, the blurry ones I couldnt find the magnifying glass

jet fixer · 04/08/2010, 06:38 PM

If I can't sell the stuff in my for sale tread can I donate it to FRAG or PROP? Its all drygoods and nothing is elaborate I just don't want to throw it away if someone can use it.

frontosa_man80 · 04/08/2010, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrubberOTanky

Here is some visual stimulation for you guys,

DJ these pictures dont do those corals any justice. i need to get pictures of the one's i bought from you and post them up.

these have a ton of color to them in person. i have half a mind to buy these and glue them together to make me a larger colony.

-jesse

ScrubberOTanky · 04/08/2010, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frontosa_man80

DJ these pictures dont do those corals any justice. i need to get pictures of the one's i bought from you and post them up.

these have a ton of color to them in person. i have half a mind to buy these and glue them together to make me a larger colony.

-jesse

Actually if you place 2 frags from the same colony next to each other and touching, eventually you will have one large piece

Puzzle anyone? I have a piece of SRA that did it, its cool you can see where the ridge is where they joined. Where they are sitting it is very difficult to get a shot of them properly.

I just realized I posted a double pic

this should be the third pic above:

04/07/2010, 06:23 PM	#1
Helfrichs Chic Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Thomas USVI Posts: 2,791	April 17th FRAG meeting thread: Buy, Sell, Trade and Free! Afternoon fellow fraggers! I wanted post the meeting thread up a little early this month in hopes that we will have a large turnout with lots of frags for sale and trade!! I will be there, so hope to see you all! FRAG Meetings are from 2:00 p.m to 4:00 p.m Prankster's Gar and Brill 2 7919 E. Thomas Rd. (SW corner of Thomas and Hayden) Scottsdale, AZ 85251 Last edited by Helfrichs Chic; 04/07/2010 at 06:35 PM.

04/07/2010, 08:01 PM	#3
dalston Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,336	I have some of Jesse's sunset but it's not quite ready to be fragged yet. If you don't find any within the next month or so, I will have one for you free of charge. Just as a thank you for all you do for this community (day trips, t-shirts, name tags to name a few) Also, if I can get a baby sitter, I should have a whole bunch of goodies, some caps, digis, other millis and a few different zoas for sale. Fingers crossed __________________ The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine - Abraham Lincoln An Englishman, even if he is alone, forms an orderly queue of one - George Mikes Last edited by dalston; 04/07/2010 at 08:06 PM.

04/07/2010, 08:57 PM	#4
ScrubberOTanky Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tempizzle Fo Shizzle, AZ Posts: 1,028	Here is my list, its a long one this time, I have been busy, and things have piled up so to speak... also a few larger pieces left from the re-scape of the 29 that I dont feel go very well with the new theme. I will post pics as soon as I can, its a bunch of stuff, if you want to see anything specific, PM me Here we go, prices reflect size and/or encrustedness/rareness/color (look a new word! lol) SPS: Green Slimer $5 & $10 Blue/Green Lokesi or gomezi? someone told me the name, I forget, its tort like? and absolutely beautiful! From a maricultured colony $25 & $30 Horrida? or similar to ORA purple plasma? got it from Garage over a year ago, this is the only frag I have but its a big one with many branches purple red and green? $30 DJ's Lime in the Sky Acro has light blue base with green coralites similar or the same as the one in the SPS forum thread. From a maricultured colony $15, $15, $10 (small guys, but way sweet!) DJ's Incredible Hulk/Candlelight look alike acro yellow with hints of light purple and green $10, $15, $25 Blue Tenuis From AZSB $10 and $25 (larger is reserved for EVsalty if he wants it as he requested this branch from the mother some time ago) A. Prostrada(Sp?) red/brown with blue coralites needs has some color changing to do $10, $20 DJ's Yellow Acro, maybe a yellow tenuis? $10, $15, $20 DJ's Grape Ape Bonsai acro Purple base NEON green polyps $10, $15 Tubbs Green Birdsnest super frag! 6 branches in putty on a clam shell $25 "PinKK" Digitata $10, $15 LA Lakers Turbinaria fresh cut 1-2" $25 LPS/Zoa/Etc PRG Acan last frag left 11 heads $50 Orange Bam Bam zoa 14 heads $50 Pink Skirt Green ring Pink center zoas 5 polyps $20 Mint Green Paly colony could be Aqua Palys? too many heads to count $25 Green center frilly Moon paly colony 20+ heads $30 Brown/peach with green spot shroom colony $20 Teal/Blue shroom singles $10 Metallic Red shroom singles $10 Chalice (last large pieces left): Bubble Gum Pink and Teal 3" $50 Pink/Pink eye 3" $50 Confetti Cake 3" very nice shape $75 May find some more stuff and or equipment to list, and like I said will work on pics, but lets make this a big meeting shall we!? Last edited by ScrubberOTanky; 04/07/2010 at 09:00 PM. Reason: Edit: also open to trades, I am looking for and like to come home from meetings with Chalice, Chalice, oh and Chalice :)

04/07/2010, 09:12 PM	#5
Helfrichs Chic Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Thomas USVI Posts: 2,791	Dalston that sound great! Thanks! I'm interested in the caps if u can make it... Especially if they are they are big peices and good color. Scrubber: I will take a pinkk digi, slimer, and possibly more. 10$ frags. What size are we talking about? I would be ok with a mini colony of the digi if u have it, just tell me how much before u frag it. I want to add some nice acros but I'm only running 2 150s right now until I can find 2 250s so can't add anything that needs 400w lol. That reminds me I have a 2x150 coralife with moonlights and pc that I can sell or trade. 250$? I'm looking for 2x250 SE halide setup. I can't afford the $650 set up I wanted so gonna have to see what else is out there. Last edited by Helfrichs Chic; 04/07/2010 at 09:22 PM.

04/07/2010, 10:22 PM	#8
badfish Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 1,970	Scrub, I would like a $10 frag of green slimmer and a $10 frag of grape ape please. __________________ "My second home is a third world cantina" RCPM Current Tank Info: Not big enough.

04/07/2010, 06:29 PM	#2
Helfrichs Chic Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Thomas USVI Posts: 2,791	With that said I'm looking to add some sweet goodies to my 110g since I'm finally caught up on my bills. Looking for nice millies,(Jesse sunset would be cool) nice digis, palys and zoas, montis and maybe a RBTA!!!! Lmk if ya have something for me

04/07/2010, 09:21 PM	#6
ScrubberOTanky Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tempizzle Fo Shizzle, AZ Posts: 1,028	Adrian, I dont run 400s, that would fry my stuff, I have 12" of water 250w Phx14k all day pretty far from the surface too. should be ok under a 150 especially if its higher up. Got you down for the digi and Slimer!

04/07/2010, 09:24 PM	#7
Helfrichs Chic Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Thomas USVI Posts: 2,791	Yea that's what I am looking for... 2 250s and phenix bulbs. Just taking longer to gather funds being a single woman lol.

04/07/2010, 11:30 PM	#9
Turbovr3six Colored Sticks addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island, 11768 Posts: 2,652	DJ-- Acans, Yellow acro and grape ape please... and PM sent to Helfrichs Chic __________________ -Justin Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are already doing it.

04/08/2010, 12:25 AM	#10
ScrubberOTanky Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tempizzle Fo Shizzle, AZ Posts: 1,028	Holy SNikeys!, Grape Ape sold out! I will post an updated list with the pics tomorrow sometime... Helfrich's, Badfish, TurboVR3Six, got you all down

04/08/2010, 12:32 AM	#11
rapture Moved On Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: mesa az. Posts: 475	I'm headed up there to say hi to everyone. Tank isn't set up quite yet but I could use some sump rock and some sand. Lmk a price. Its for a 29g aquapod so I don't need much to go in the back of the little bugar.

04/08/2010, 01:02 AM	#12
mndfreeze Invert Sexy Time! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 2,255	I'm looking for deep blue and deep red SPS.

04/08/2010, 01:28 AM	#13
Turbovr3six Colored Sticks addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island, 11768 Posts: 2,652	i cant make it to the meeting and dont hav anything fully ready for sale as of now.. i do have a 1" Jesse's Sunset Milli fresh cut if anyone is interested. $25 __________________ -Justin Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are already doing it.

04/08/2010, 10:34 AM	#14
azshooz Sunburnt Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 544	Scrubber: Put me down for Blue/Green Lokesi or gomezi and a pink digi if you still have one available. Thanks mang.... And Turbo I'll take the LE Jesse ubermilli (I can make new words too! )

04/08/2010, 11:46 AM	#15
usefulidiot213 Bryan H. Join Date: May 2007 Location: 40th St. & Thunderbird Posts: 1,348	I will be there.. I just bought a 180gal, and I am going to need some frags!! Rock The House __________________ "I would rather be lucky then good." Bryan H. Current Tank Info: 120 AGA- 4x2x2 Mixed Reef. 2 MP40s, Vertex IN-180 Skimmer, RKL Controller for temp control and light timing. 8x 54 Watt T5 lighting.

04/08/2010, 12:46 PM	#16
Alex0219 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 258	I'm going to try to make it out, may pick up a few hardy frags if my parameters are still good.

04/08/2010, 01:08 PM	#17
Helfrichs Chic Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Thomas USVI Posts: 2,791	I have 2 womens large FRAG t-shirts left too: $15.00

04/08/2010, 01:20 PM	#19
Helfrichs Chic Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Thomas USVI Posts: 2,791	Well I was thinking that if enough people are interested I can do some before the meeting... Need sizes asap. I can't order special colors this short notice but I can do white ones. My shirt guy has mens larges and mens XL white in stock. The logo can be on either front or back. I will need pay pal in advance for the order as well as the size u want and where the logo is to go. Paypal Adrian@flyingraphics.com 15.00$ Last edited by Helfrichs Chic; 04/08/2010 at 01:26 PM.

04/08/2010, 02:21 PM	#20
rapture Moved On Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: mesa az. Posts: 475	Trade for a 1/2 gallon of muratic acid? Lol. That stuff is nasty. My stepfather broughtme a gallon to play with. You'd be suprised what that stuff will do with a lil aluminum

04/08/2010, 03:08 PM	#21
usefulidiot213 Bryan H. Join Date: May 2007 Location: 40th St. & Thunderbird Posts: 1,348	Ahhh... Nothing says awesome Friday night like playing with a little muratic acid... __________________ "I would rather be lucky then good." Bryan H. Current Tank Info: 120 AGA- 4x2x2 Mixed Reef. 2 MP40s, Vertex IN-180 Skimmer, RKL Controller for temp control and light timing. 8x 54 Watt T5 lighting.

04/08/2010, 06:03 PM	#22
ScrubberOTanky Moved On Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tempizzle Fo Shizzle, AZ Posts: 1,028	Here is some visual stimulation for you guys, as well as updates: SPS: Green Slimer $5 & $10 1 piece left Blue/Green Lokesi or gomezi? someone told me the name, I forget, its tort like? and absolutely beautiful! From a maricultured colony $25 & $30 2 pieces left Horrida? or similar to ORA purple plasma? got it from Garage over a year ago, this is the only frag I have but its a big one with many branches purple red and green? $30 DJ's Lime in the Sky Acro has light blue base with green coralites similar or the same as the one in the SPS forum thread. From a maricultured colony $15, $15, $10 (small guys, but way sweet!) DJ's Incredible Hulk/Candlelight look alike acro yellow with hints of light purple and green $10, $15, $25 Blue Tenuis From AZSB $10 and $25 (larger is no longer reserved) A. Prostrada(Sp?) red/brown with blue coralites needs has some color changing to do $10, $20 DJ's Yellow Acro, maybe a yellow tenuis? $10, $15, $20 1 sold, many available DJ's Grape Ape Bonsai acro Purple base NEON green polyps $10, $15 SOLD OUT! Tubbs Green Birdsnest super frag! 6 branches in putty on a clam shell $25 "PinKK" Digitata $10, $15 1 sold, 2 left LA Lakers Turbinaria fresh cut 1-2" $25 LPS/Zoa/Etc PRG Acan last frag left 11 heads $50 SOLD Orange Bam Bam zoa 14 heads $50 Pink Skirt Green ring Pink center zoas 5 polyps $20 SOLD Mint Green Paly colony could be Aqua Palys? too many heads to count $25 Green center frilly Moon paly colony 20+ heads $30 Brown/peach with green spot shroom colony $20 Teal/Blue shroom singles $10 Metallic Red shroom singles $10 Chalice (last large pieces left): Bubble Gum Pink and Teal 3" $50 Pink/Pink eye 3" $50 Confetti Cake 3" very nice shape $75 In this Pic: Green Slimer, LIme in the Sky Acro, and Blueish Green Lokesi/gomezi thingy (I guess its more of a blueish purple with green hints ) In this pic: INcredible Hulk/Candlelight acro look alike, Blue Green lokesi/Gomezi thingy, Rainbow Acro (NFS for now), Garagse Fave UNkown? In this Pic: Dj's Yellow tenuis, A. Prostrada, Grape Ape bonsai ( in the back), LA Lakers turbinaria in the front right In this pic: Blue Tenuis ( no longer sold to Robert), A Prostrada, and in the middle the purple plasma horrida, a very nice frag if I do say so... In this pic from L to R: BHubblegum chalice, Pink/Red chalice, Confetti Cake Chalice In this pic: Tan with green dot shroom colony In this pic: Teal blue/mint green Aquapaly colony Sorry about the pics, the clear ones are using the iPhone and the magnifying glass trick, the blurry ones I couldnt find the magnifying glass

04/08/2010, 06:38 PM	#23
jet fixer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 718	If I can't sell the stuff in my for sale tread can I donate it to FRAG or PROP? Its all drygoods and nothing is elaborate I just don't want to throw it away if someone can use it.