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Unread 04/14/2016, 10:28 AM   #1
burtner
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Apex programming: multiple feed cycles

I have been struggling with one issue since buying the Apex last September.

I have Feed A @ 5 minutes and Feed D @ 20 minutes.

When using Feed D, the equipment comes on after several minutes (but less than 10 or so).

Here's how my MP10 is programmed (return and other devices programmed similarly):

If FeedA 005 Then FoodCleanup
If FeedA 002 Then FeedReef
If FeedA 000 Then OFF
If FeedB 005 Then FoodCleanup
If FeedB 002 Then FeedReef
If FeedB 000 Then OFF
If FeedC 005 Then FeedReef
If FeedD 000 Then OFF

What on EARTH am I doing wrong?


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Unread 04/14/2016, 10:56 AM   #2
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Are you trying to make it so that the equipment will not turn on for 20m after starting FeedD? Then i would change "If FeedD 000 Then OFF" to "If FeedD 020 Then OFF". Where it will turn OFF and keep OFF for 20 more minutes

There is also another statement i sometimes like to use at the bottom of the program like for my ATO or skimmer(after dosing reef energy) in which it will keep an outlet off for a minimum amount of time.
Min Time mmm:ss Then OFF


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Unread 04/15/2016, 05:59 AM   #3
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The individual feed timers for ABC&D, which are independent of the outlets, are set using the apex's handheld display by going to setup →outlet→feed interval. If you cancel the feed timer using the handheld display then any outlets that do not have a "MIN Time mmm:ss" or "Feed mmm then off" time will start up immediately.


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Unread 04/15/2016, 09:09 AM   #4
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Feed cycle D

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Are you trying to make it so that the equipment will not turn on for 20m after starting FeedD? Then i would change "If FeedD 000 Then OFF" to "If FeedD 020 Then OFF". Where it will turn OFF and keep OFF for 20 more minutes

There is also another statement i sometimes like to use at the bottom of the program like for my ATO or skimmer(after dosing reef energy) in which it will keep an outlet off for a minimum amount of time.
Min Time mmm:ss Then OFF
Well, if I understand it, "IF FeedD 020 Then OFF" means:
Stay off for the entire Feed D cycle, and for an additional 20 minutes.

I do use the Min Time; thanks!


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Unread 04/15/2016, 09:11 AM   #5
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Setting Feed cycle durations

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The individual feed timers for ABC&D, which are independent of the outlets, are set using the apex's handheld display by going to setup →outlet→feed interval. If you cancel the feed timer using the handheld display then any outlets that do not have a "MIN Time mmm:ss" or "Feed mmm then off" time will start up immediately.
Thanks, but I've done that and set Feed D for 15 (or 20) minutes, but the equipment all comes on after 5 minutes or so after initiating the FeedD cycle. I'm stumped.


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Unread 04/15/2016, 01:30 PM   #6
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can you please copy and paste the entire code for the piece of equipment; could be a virtual outlet you are using as a timer or something else like that?


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Unread 04/15/2016, 01:50 PM   #7
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can you please copy and paste the entire code for the piece of equipment; could be a virtual outlet you are using as a timer or something else like that?
AI Hydra 26:
If Time 13:00 to 17:00 Then Stormy
If FeedA 010 Then FeedLights
If FeedB 000 Then FeedLights
If FeedC 000 Then FeedLights
If FeedD 000 Then FeedLights
If Temp > 78.0 Then OFF

EcoTech MP-10:
If FeedA 005 Then FoodCleanup
If FeedA 002 Then FeedReef
If FeedA 000 Then OFF
If FeedB 005 Then FoodCleanup
If FeedB 002 Then FeedReef
If FeedB 000 Then OFF
If FeedC 005 Then FeedReef
If FeedD 000 Then OFF

Return:
Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 005 Then OFF
If FeedB 005 Then OFF
If FeedC 005 Then OFF
If FeedD 000 Then OFF

Main Heater:
Fallback OFF
If Temp < 76.5 Then ON
If Temp > 76.5 Then OFF
If Temp < 50.0 Then OFF
If FeedA 006 Then OFF
If FeedB 006 Then OFF
If FeedC 006 Then OFF
If FeedD 001 Then OFF

Backup Heater:
Fallback OFF
If Temp < 75.0 Then ON
If Temp > 75.0 Then OFF
If Temp < 50.0 Then OFF
If FeedA 006 Then OFF
If FeedB 006 Then OFF
If FeedC 006 Then OFF
If FeedD 001 Then OFF

Reactor:
Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 006 Then OFF
If FeedB 006 Then OFF
If FeedC 006 Then OFF
If FeedD 001 Then OFF

Skimmer:
Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 006 Then OFF
If FeedB 006 Then OFF
If FeedC 006 Then OFF
If FeedD 001 Then OFF

ATO:
Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 006 Then OFF
If FeedB 006 Then OFF
If FeedC 006 Then OFF
If FeedD 001 Then OFF
Min Time 010:00 Then OFF


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Unread 04/15/2016, 03:50 PM   #8
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omg, nothing in there to interfere...


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Unread 04/15/2016, 05:17 PM   #9
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Thanks

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omg, nothing in there to interfere...
I didn't think so, but thanks for looking. I didn't know if maybe someone would spot something I was missing.


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