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12/11/2019, 01:12 PM | #26 | |
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What is the value of buying live rocks if you are killing whatever on it? Btw I alwayes do dry rocks over the last 13 years for more than 5 systems I always do 80% dry and 20% live from a known system... so I do not want you to think am advocating using live rocks. This is one of my current 2 systems (3 years old) Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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12/11/2019, 01:15 PM | #27 | |
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another helpful data if you can provide: Do you have algae growing other than on the rocks? Do you have algae anywhere where there is no light? Any special characteristics of the algae(color, behavior, cyclic...ect) Any algae in water column? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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12/11/2019, 01:18 PM | #28 |
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Can you take pics of the system and the equipment please. Thanks Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Last edited by ohashimz; 12/11/2019 at 01:27 PM. |
12/11/2019, 01:26 PM | #29 | |
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Beautiful tank. Congrats. We all know the work it takes to have great success! Good job. Curing rock doesn’t kill the bacteria within the rock. Most rock we purchase is cured at local fish stores unless you purchase straight from supplier. It’s really not important and don’t want to get side tracked just want to be clear that cured doesn’t mean dead. I suspect the lighting in this case but am only basing it on the fact that everything else has been addressed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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12/11/2019, 01:32 PM | #30 | ||
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Normal film algae on the sides of tank. No algae on the sand. (There is some brown spots in the picture above that just appeared. Sand is pretty much clear) No algae anywhere with no light. Quote:
No. Water column is crystal clear.
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12/11/2019, 01:34 PM | #31 | |
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You are absolutely correct. The problem is how do you define curing. I have seen reefers define bleeching the rocks as curing lol. So I have learned to aleaue assume the worst when I provide advice to reefers ha ha. Yes, if the curing is just soaking in salt water in dark place waiting for matters to decompose, not all bacterial population will be killed. But if its bleached, or soaked in fresh water everything alive will be killed and start to decompose. Remember bacteria require a minimum of specific conditions to keep existing, like light, nutrients, and salt water... So depend on the "curing" proccess the rock will emerge alive or dead. Filled with nutrients or clean. My curing is soak in fresh water for 1 month, change water weekly and test po4. Once po4 is none detected, water look and smell good move rocks to dry in sun for 1 week. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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12/11/2019, 01:36 PM | #32 |
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Btw if your coral grow well that means you have nutrients and your po4 cannot be zero..just fyi..
Debating how accurate testing kits and how to use them is diffrent topic I will avoid in here) Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
12/11/2019, 01:38 PM | #33 | |
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It also chafes me that the very first tank I started, using power pc lights sitting on top of the glass and brita tap water, I was able to grow coral at a rapid rate, clam from 1" to 5" and never had algae issues. No internet then. No local reefers to talk to. Just a book from the library.
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12/11/2019, 01:41 PM | #34 | |
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I clearly have phosphates in the water column. I just don't have "excessive" phosphates. My LPS grows like crazy. When I was running GFO aggressively, assuming that I had excessive phosphates and the algae was miraculously getting to the phosphate quicker than my test kit, my LPS began to suffer.
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12/11/2019, 01:41 PM | #35 | |
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While light help algae to grow, controlling algae should not be done with light... If conditions are there, any type of light will help algae to grow. All what light is doing is providing energy for the algae to metabolize the nutrients. Ambient light will be enough for it to keep growing... Lets just keep digging. We can figure it out. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Last edited by ohashimz; 12/11/2019 at 01:48 PM. |
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12/11/2019, 01:42 PM | #36 | |
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12/11/2019, 01:46 PM | #38 | |
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12/11/2019, 02:41 PM | #39 | |
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12/11/2019, 02:42 PM | #40 | |
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Display tank Sump area Equipments.. Maybe you can add all these pics to the first post to complete the picture... Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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12/11/2019, 02:58 PM | #41 | |
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12/11/2019, 03:10 PM | #42 | |
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Looking at this pic makes me sad. All my hopes and dreams with the previous 20 years of reef keeping were supposed to culminate in this box of water.... I spent two years planning the darn system! Found another pic from December 2014, so it is 5 years old as I thought. The older you get, the harder it is to keep track of time....
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I battled GHA for 1.5 years, it's finally a non issue. I think it just takes time. I believe my rocks were leaching phosphates and that stage is finally over. I did purchase an algae turf scrubber months back so that also helps..
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12/11/2019, 05:58 PM | #44 |
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I tackled my GHA with one dose of vibrant. I really saw good results with this product. No harm done to tank and it has not been back.
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12/11/2019, 11:37 PM | #45 | |
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Will wait for your pics. Then we will put a plan and work on a fix.. Have you ever done Triton test? It's really worth it. 50$ will give you great informstions. I highly recommend it when there is persistent problem in the system. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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12/11/2019, 11:39 PM | #46 | |
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What this product is, bacterial that boost your biological filtration. When it come to algae the most important thing is to treat the cause not the symptoms. The algae is the symptoms..finding the source that fueling it is the solution... Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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12/11/2019, 11:43 PM | #47 | |
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1- System mature, bacterial population strengthen, bacteria handle and proccess po4 2- by time the rock exhaust po4 as long ad the import (feeding and bio load) is less than the export(mechanical+biological filtration). So eventually your system reach and equilibrium in nutrient vs filtration Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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12/12/2019, 01:57 AM | #48 | |
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I have the pics, but I am waiting for admin permission to continue editing the first post. i will post the setup pics there when I get the permission. Here is the best closeup of the algae. Next week i can use my wifes microscope and take a photo at 100x.
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12/17/2019, 08:21 PM | #49 | |
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Here are some pics of the algae under the microscope (as well as detritus)
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12/17/2019, 08:50 PM | #50 | |
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Any part of the water will do. If you have dino it will be everywhere so you do not have to take yue sample from the algae filament itself. Also I highly recommend you invest on a Triton test..it will reveal alot...alot.. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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