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Unread 11/06/2011, 05:52 PM   #1
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The Ultimate Aggressive Experiment

Sometimes a picture really is worth 1000 words.




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Unread 11/06/2011, 07:03 PM   #2
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That's an awesome pic... where did you find it? Seems like you had a smaller guy in a well grown tank?
After a couple weeks of searching RC I've found a couple community tanks with undulateds in them other than mine, but never one with two(!) undy's in the same tank. Wonder how it'll work out? I'm guessing you double the fish you double the chance of problems....

Random pic of my little beast and some of his friends:




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Unread 11/06/2011, 07:21 PM   #3
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They have been seperated by eggcrate for a couple of weeks and I removed it a couple of days ago. No fighting at all so far, but they are definitely aware of each other. As the smaller undy has grown it hides more and more. It wedges itself in that plastic log and there is no way it comes out unless it wants to. On the rare occasion they are both out there is no conflict.

That little log is the only reason I'm trying this, if things go sour the small trigger can always get away.


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Unread 11/06/2011, 07:24 PM   #4
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Never tried this combo.....done multiple tusks, and blue lines, clowns, queens, not undys! Keep up the thread.


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Unread 11/06/2011, 10:13 PM   #5
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I figure this will have one of three outcomes.

The smaller trigger never stops hiding, only coming out briefly and darting back to the log. That's how it's looking, and I don't really want to have that happen. I'll separate them for the sake of the smaller fish.

They begin to savagely fight and have to be separated for that reason.

This crazy idea works and they coexist.

The first time they saw each other the smaller undy turned a dark purple, I had never seen that color change before.


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Unread 11/07/2011, 12:41 AM   #6
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Oh wow, you're actually doing this!!!
I'm certainly curious how this experiment turns out...
and purple, that's one I haven't seen yet.


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Unread 11/07/2011, 06:39 AM   #7
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Maybe put a mirror on one side of the tank, it will confuse them.


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Unread 11/07/2011, 08:30 AM   #8
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very nice specimums.Good luck.please let us know the results


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Unread 11/07/2011, 06:43 PM   #9
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Good luck hopefuly it works.


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Unread 11/07/2011, 10:47 PM   #10
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Maybe put a mirror on one side of the tank, it will confuse them.
The mirror and the eggcrate have been a staple for the last two weeks. I still don't trust them...I separate them when I'm not there to watch. But the bigger undy is strong and destructive and actually popped the eggcrate out of place and was patrolling the whole tank when I got home from work.

Some good news, the smaller undy came out of hiding and is actually more active than it has been for months. They are swimming around and chomping pellets right beside each other. I can't really believe it. Still watching closely because the larger trigger is displaying stress markings and could snap at any moment. She's a lot bigger and could do some serious damage.

I would love to get some video, but the small trigger is more afraid of me than the it's monster of a roommate and hides when I come in the room.


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Unread 11/07/2011, 11:12 PM   #11
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Yes, that is a relatively bare 55 gallon tank. Yes, that is crazy.

If I'm going to give this a chance, I need to see all aggression out in the open. No chasing behind rocks, no pinning to one side of the tank. No territories.

I'm way outside the box, but I'll be damned if they aren't getting along.


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Unread 11/08/2011, 12:34 PM   #12
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Never tried this combo.....done multiple tusks.....
I tried a Harliquin tusk and a broomtail at the same time.

World War 3. The broomtail had to be removed immed. He wouldnt have lasted more than a few minutes. They were similar sized fish and the Harliquin was previously established.


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Unread 11/08/2011, 09:18 PM   #13
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good luck, interesting experiment


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Unread 11/08/2011, 09:19 PM   #14
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Nice Undy's


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Unread 11/09/2011, 01:37 AM   #15
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Unread 11/09/2011, 01:48 AM   #16
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how big are they?


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Unread 11/09/2011, 07:26 AM   #17
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Awesome!! Hope it goes well. Glad to see your taking all the necessary measures to make sure the fish are safe


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Unread 11/09/2011, 11:58 AM   #18
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how big are they?
The bigger one is over 5", the smaller is around 2.5". But the bigger undy is about 5 times the mass. She needs a dog dish, eats a ton.


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Unread 11/11/2011, 12:53 PM   #19
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They've been eggcrate free for a few days now and everything is going great. They now cruise the tank together and sleep inches apart.

Not even a dirty look during feeding time.

Mixing tangs and angels is a nightmare compared to this, not at all what I expected.


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Unread 11/11/2011, 02:21 PM   #20
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Wow!! I'm stoked to hear it's working out!!


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Unread 11/27/2011, 12:39 PM   #21
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Still going fine, the little undy is back to hiding most of the day and comes out during feeding time. They did go for the same piece of shrimp once, and that didn't go well.

The big one is quite a specimen. Not bad for $30.




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Unread 12/21/2011, 10:06 PM   #22
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It worked for awhile, longer than I expected, but it's over. Big undy started getting pretty savage, so the little one would just hide all the time and run for it's life the few times it would sneak out.

I actually think it would have worked if the smaller undy would have stayed bold, but it got back in the habit of hiding all day. As we've all seen, aggression doesn't really come from fish #1 chasing...it comes from fish #2 running. Once that becomes the pattern, it usually only gets worse.


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Unread 12/22/2011, 02:52 PM   #23
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Hopefully you were able to find a good home for the smaller one


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Unread 12/22/2011, 03:16 PM   #24
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I have them egg crated until I figure out what to do with them.


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Unread 12/22/2011, 03:39 PM   #25
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That sucks! Oh well, at least one of them didn't die


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