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skippyreef · 10/06/2009, 07:25 AM

Thanks Jeremy for forwarding my tracking information. Looks like my Alpha 300 will arrive tommorow!!!!! It feels like CHristmas Eve today!!!

Anyone else upgrade from an H&S to an Alpha? If so what is you opinion so far?

Jeremy B. · 10/06/2009, 09:09 AM

Hey Guys,

I got the revisions. I will get them headed right out the door!

Thanks,
Jeremy

bigtex52 · 10/06/2009, 09:19 AM

WooHoo! Looking forward to receiving it.

Thanks, Jeremy and Klaus!

corywilson · 10/06/2009, 11:23 AM

Awesome news, guess ill clean the skimmer tonight so its ready for the new parts.

Jeremy B. · 10/06/2009, 11:40 AM

Here are some photos of the revision kit next to the original impeller and pump head. The new revised items are on the right.

corywilson · 10/06/2009, 12:46 PM

Looks like the pins are actually longer on the impeller, but the plate is thinner. What is the gray attachment at the exit end of the volute?

Jeremy B. · 10/06/2009, 12:49 PM

The gray fitting is an adapter to work with the same sized silicone coupling and inlet to the skimmer body. The outlet of the pump head is actually smaller now, so the adapter is needed.

corywilson · 10/06/2009, 02:01 PM

Is this impeller and volute a clone of the mini as you had mentioned earlier or something entirely different?

Jeremy B. · 10/06/2009, 02:04 PM

They are similar, but not the same. Keep in mind that very small changes with pump geometry actually make very large real world test differences.

corywilson · 10/06/2009, 02:52 PM

I understand, I was just curious if it was modeled after the bk mini or was a one off

Jeremy B. · 10/06/2009, 02:58 PM

The Mini 180 was a starting point, but these are all one-offs designed specifically for the Alpha 170.

crab0000 · 10/06/2009, 04:53 PM

Woohoo, I have a tracking number!

taklein65 · 10/06/2009, 08:08 PM

Jeremy what's the word on the A250? When do you think they will be in?

kvmn · 10/06/2009, 08:10 PM

question about LPH please
on alpha 250,,,its said 1500mph but when i get mph air metter its reading at 1200mph on the main tube and the small red air tube is about another 300mph so its right? or
1500lph just on the main big airtube?
anyone ever try airmetter on apha250? thanks

Wd40 · 10/06/2009, 10:17 PM

Hey crab0000 how did you get a tracking number already?
you got that in an email or what?

crab0000 · 10/07/2009, 04:13 AM

Yep, got an e-mail. It should be here tomorrow!

Jeremy B. · 10/07/2009, 07:29 AM

There is a shipment of Alpha's on the way to the US right now, specifically 200's and 250's, however I do not have an eta yet. They still have to go through customs, etc.

The Alpha 250 should be reading around1500LPH with the 59mm nozzle, 1800LPH with the 56mm nozzle, and around 2200-2300LPH with the 47mm nozzle. Please note that only the very first batch of 250's had the 59mm 1500LPH nozzle in them. The 250's ship with the 56mm and 47mm nozzle now.

Jeremy B. · 10/07/2009, 07:40 AM

Alpha 170 Users:

Hang on to your skimmer bottoms, this revision rocks!!!

Note that once you get the mod please screw the tunable venturi all the way in to the right. Once there take a permanent marker and place a dot on the top of the white part, and another dot aligning up with the white on the gray part. This will give you a point of reference when unscrewing the venturi to dial it in.

kvmn · 10/07/2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy B.

There is a shipment of Alpha's on the way to the US right now, specifically 200's and 250's, however I do not have an eta yet. They still have to go through customs, etc.

The Alpha 250 should be reading around1500LPH with the 59mm nozzle, 1800LPH with the 56mm nozzle, and around 2200-2300LPH with the 47mm nozzle. Please note that only the very first batch of 250's had the 59mm 1500LPH nozzle in them. The 250's ship with the 56mm and 47mm nozzle now.

my 47mm nozzle reading at 1200lph right now,,,what is problem ? anyone know?

Jeremy B. · 10/07/2009, 10:45 AM

You're either running the skimmer extremely shallow, or you're not taking the reading correctly.

kvmn · 10/07/2009, 10:50 AM

its seating at 9" of water and the reading of air meter is 20lpm so=1200lph
i can take some picture when i get home if it help
thanks

Jeremy B. · 10/07/2009, 10:54 AM

Definitely take some photos when you get home. If the skimmer is only pulling 1200LPH it wouldn't even function properly at all, you would never have any skimmate in the cup.

kvmn · 10/07/2009, 12:39 PM

its hardly have any skimmate or maybe some yellow tea skimmate that why i ask if 1500lph is record just the big air tube or with small red air tube too?
i have 47mm nozzle in there so its should read 2200 or more
i will take some picture tonite for sure thanks

Jeremy B. · 10/07/2009, 12:42 PM

Put in the 47mm nozzle and run the skimmer at 10". See what you get with a reading there.

sowellj · 10/07/2009, 12:46 PM

Does the alpha 200 have the red dragon 1500 or 1000 pump on it? I have seen conflicting info on this. Thanks.

10/06/2009, 07:25 AM	#201
skippyreef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: under the sea Posts: 1,079	Thanks Jeremy for forwarding my tracking information. Looks like my Alpha 300 will arrive tommorow!!!!! It feels like CHristmas Eve today!!! Anyone else upgrade from an H&S to an Alpha? If so what is you opinion so far? __________________ Anacroporamademepoora Current Tank Info: 270 gallon Reef

10/07/2009, 07:40 AM	#218
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Alpha 170 Users: Hang on to your skimmer bottoms, this revision rocks!!! Note that once you get the mod please screw the tunable venturi all the way in to the right. Once there take a permanent marker and place a dot on the top of the white part, and another dot aligning up with the white on the gray part. This will give you a point of reference when unscrewing the venturi to dial it in. Last edited by Jeremy B.; 10/07/2009 at 07:59 AM.

10/06/2009, 09:09 AM	#202
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Hey Guys, I got the revisions. I will get them headed right out the door! Thanks, Jeremy

10/06/2009, 09:19 AM	#203
bigtex52 Old Salt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX (just N of Dallas) Posts: 436	WooHoo! Looking forward to receiving it. Thanks, Jeremy and Klaus!

10/06/2009, 11:23 AM	#204
corywilson Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 88	Awesome news, guess ill clean the skimmer tonight so its ready for the new parts.

10/06/2009, 11:40 AM	#205
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Here are some photos of the revision kit next to the original impeller and pump head. The new revised items are on the right.

10/06/2009, 12:46 PM	#206
corywilson Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 88	Looks like the pins are actually longer on the impeller, but the plate is thinner. What is the gray attachment at the exit end of the volute?

10/06/2009, 12:49 PM	#207
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	The gray fitting is an adapter to work with the same sized silicone coupling and inlet to the skimmer body. The outlet of the pump head is actually smaller now, so the adapter is needed.

10/06/2009, 02:01 PM	#208
corywilson Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 88	Is this impeller and volute a clone of the mini as you had mentioned earlier or something entirely different?

10/06/2009, 02:04 PM	#209
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	They are similar, but not the same. Keep in mind that very small changes with pump geometry actually make very large real world test differences.

10/06/2009, 02:52 PM	#210
corywilson Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Warner Robins, GA Posts: 88	I understand, I was just curious if it was modeled after the bk mini or was a one off

10/06/2009, 02:58 PM	#211
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	The Mini 180 was a starting point, but these are all one-offs designed specifically for the Alpha 170.

10/06/2009, 04:53 PM	#212
crab0000 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jasper,GA Posts: 2,801	Woohoo, I have a tracking number!

10/06/2009, 08:08 PM	#213
taklein65 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 116	Jeremy what's the word on the A250? When do you think they will be in?

10/06/2009, 08:10 PM	#214
kvmn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 237	question about LPH please on alpha 250,,,its said 1500mph but when i get mph air metter its reading at 1200mph on the main tube and the small red air tube is about another 300mph so its right? or 1500lph just on the main big airtube? anyone ever try airmetter on apha250? thanks

10/06/2009, 10:17 PM	#215
Wd40 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 715	Hey crab0000 how did you get a tracking number already? you got that in an email or what?

10/07/2009, 04:13 AM	#216
crab0000 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jasper,GA Posts: 2,801	Yep, got an e-mail. It should be here tomorrow!

10/07/2009, 07:29 AM	#217
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	There is a shipment of Alpha's on the way to the US right now, specifically 200's and 250's, however I do not have an eta yet. They still have to go through customs, etc. The Alpha 250 should be reading around1500LPH with the 59mm nozzle, 1800LPH with the 56mm nozzle, and around 2200-2300LPH with the 47mm nozzle. Please note that only the very first batch of 250's had the 59mm 1500LPH nozzle in them. The 250's ship with the 56mm and 47mm nozzle now.

10/07/2009, 10:45 AM	#220
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	You're either running the skimmer extremely shallow, or you're not taking the reading correctly.

10/07/2009, 10:50 AM	#221
kvmn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 237	its seating at 9" of water and the reading of air meter is 20lpm so=1200lph i can take some picture when i get home if it help thanks

10/07/2009, 10:54 AM	#222
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Definitely take some photos when you get home. If the skimmer is only pulling 1200LPH it wouldn't even function properly at all, you would never have any skimmate in the cup.

10/07/2009, 12:39 PM	#223
kvmn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 237	its hardly have any skimmate or maybe some yellow tea skimmate that why i ask if 1500lph is record just the big air tube or with small red air tube too? i have 47mm nozzle in there so its should read 2200 or more i will take some picture tonite for sure thanks

10/07/2009, 12:42 PM	#224
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Put in the 47mm nozzle and run the skimmer at 10". See what you get with a reading there.

10/07/2009, 12:46 PM	#225
sowellj Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: greenwood, sc Posts: 712	Does the alpha 200 have the red dragon 1500 or 1000 pump on it? I have seen conflicting info on this. Thanks.