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04/19/2012, 12:04 PM | #1 |
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how to treat new liveaquaria arrivals
I just got some fish from liveaquaria, and they all seem to have some various issues.
The tang has white spots (larger than ich, although it appears to possibly have ich too), as well as these brown spots that almost look like open sores. watch full screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsLbDUB***Q The chromis also have white/brown spots all over them, holes in their fins, though no ich-like stuff I can see for sure. watch full screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob9TQaIUXlk I'm thinking I should dose cupramine, stress guard, and maracyn plus for the tang. And for the chromis do maracyn plus and stress guard? Or would bifuran be appropriate instead of the maracyn plus in both cases? I also have prazipro available, but I don't think any of this is flukes. I also have formalin and methylene blue if anyone feels some kind of treatment would be appropriate. |
04/19/2012, 12:20 PM | #2 |
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Irritating. As the cost of owning these fish just doubled or tripled or worse.
You can't send them back, you can't flush them(although MANY fish stores, distributors, wholesellers, collectors would), many feel obligated to treat them. Best of luck to you and your fishes. The larger white spots on the fish might be lymphocystis.
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04/19/2012, 12:24 PM | #3 |
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Well I ordered enough shipping was free. And if they die in 14 days I get full refund. Yea annoying as they were definitely sick before sending them. They don't get like this in 18 hours from boxing to arrival.
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The good news is that LA does guarantee the fish and hopefully they 'heal up' for you!
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04/19/2012, 12:38 PM | #5 |
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Looking for suggestions on my selected course of treatment before I do anything. Actually, looks like stress guard isn't compatible with cupramine. So I wonder if I shold do cupramine and maracyn plus, or do hyposalinity and maracyn plus and stress guard for the tang.
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04/19/2012, 01:53 PM | #7 |
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Yea I know that divers den is different than from just liveaquaria, I just didn't realize how different heh.
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04/19/2012, 02:24 PM | #8 |
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Hi,
I work for Drs. Foster & Smith. f3honda4me, have you contacted Customer Service? They would really like to work with you to help recommend care, medicating, etc., and of course you should get the condition of the fish on file. Please call them at 800-334-3699 (alternately, if you want to PM me your order number, I can send it to Customer Service and they will contact you). Thanks
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04/19/2012, 02:29 PM | #9 |
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I will call them right away, thank you!
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04/19/2012, 05:48 PM | #10 |
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Definitely let LA guide you in treatment. They have experienced personnel whose job is dealing with new and sick fish (plus a vested interest in getting the fish to pull through).
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04/19/2012, 05:58 PM | #11 |
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They said they felt maracyn and stress guard was a good way to go. If I see ich for sure ill drop salinity to 1.009 to treat that way. I'm also debating throwing prazi pro in there.
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04/20/2012, 04:02 PM | #14 |
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The chromis look awful today. I think they are on their last legs.
Tang looks about the same. he's eating good though. I have his salinity down to 1.015, getting closer to the eventual 1.009 for hypo. I might dose prazipro too. The banggai cardinals I got look great, though I haven't seen them eat yet. They are tank bred though so I think they should come around. |
04/21/2012, 07:59 AM | #15 |
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Lost 2 of the chromis.
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04/21/2012, 11:56 AM | #16 |
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Just an observation from someone who spends fair amount of time on this part of the RC forum: Something is going on with Chromis, they seem to have recently become very difficult to acclimate and keep. They used to be fairly bulletproof fish, not anymore.
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04/21/2012, 02:27 PM | #18 |
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These chromis arrived in terrible shape to begin with though. For what it's worth.
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04/21/2012, 03:01 PM | #19 |
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Cardinal fish ate today. Frozen pe mysis. The tang is eating good. Hopefully the tang will be ok. The last of the chromis probably won't make it through another night.
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04/21/2012, 05:50 PM | #20 |
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success rate with chromis are just very poor to begin with. partly b/c they can be aggressive amongst their own kind and partly might be b/c they are mishandled in transport(b/c they are cheap?).
it is pretty hard to successfully keep a group of chromis. i think the majority of people that do have a group of them, just replace them as they die.
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I suspect rough handling and poor health to start with prior to shipment. Glad to see LA post and take care of your problem. Their customer service is A+ and they are great to deal with. Good luck with your fish.
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04/26/2012, 11:12 AM | #22 |
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Update:
All 3 chromis are gone now. LA, per their excellent service as always, provided a refund on the chromis. On the bright side, however, I was able to buy a grouped trio of replacement black axil chromis from divers den, and they arrived in pristine and beautiful condition. The tang has improved, but still not out of the woods yet IMO. I finished 3 doses of maracyn plus over the first week, and continue to dose stress guard every couple days. I also have him in 1.008 - 1.009 salinity, and today dosed prazipro proactively since I'm not positive of what he all has or caused his condition. He eats good though, and enjoys flakes, frozen mysis, pellets, and nori seaweed. |
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