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Old 01/17/2015, 07:28 PM   #651
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I can't thank everybody enough. This is by far the best thread on the internet concerning dinoflagellates. Tomorrow I am going to move my CUC into a 10 gallon tank and just keep them there for a long time and observe. Then I am going to nuke my rock to make sure it is absolutely clean, clean my tank, all equipment, pipes and such and start over. Thankfully my fish have been in a hospital tank for 7 weeks due to ich, I still have my semi picassos and 1 spot foxface. I am positive they are 100 percent free of any infection or sickness. They have been looking perfect for the last month.


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Old 01/17/2015, 07:33 PM   #652
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If your dino is ostreopsis, then I can confirm antibiotics will kill it. So running some in your QT might be helpful


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Old 01/17/2015, 07:37 PM   #653
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If your dino is ostreopsis, then I can confirm antibiotics will kill it. So running some in your QT might be helpful
What antibiotics would you suggest?


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Old 01/17/2015, 07:49 PM   #654
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If your dino is ostreopsis, then I can confirm antibiotics will kill it. So running some in your QT might be helpful
Would prazipro work for the cuc and corals?


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Old 01/17/2015, 07:52 PM   #655
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What antibiotics would you suggest?
I don't have my lab book with me right now, but I suspect I used a Beta-lactam antibiotic.


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Old 01/17/2015, 07:59 PM   #656
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Thanks Pants. I'm not in a rush to know what works for the inverts but if you could let us know what antibiotic you used and at what concentration that would be great.


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Old 01/17/2015, 08:37 PM   #657
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Pretty sure that I have dinos in my 180g. Attached are a few pics I took under 800x, just wanted to get a 100% confirmation on it before I start treatment. Can anyone identify these pics? Thanks [IMG] [/IMG]


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Old 01/17/2015, 08:41 PM   #658
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Here is another pic, not sure it came through on the last post


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Old 01/17/2015, 08:43 PM   #659
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Would I need to use human strength medicine or would these products work from Dr. Fosters and Smith?

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...1&pcatid=12101


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Old 01/17/2015, 11:28 PM   #660
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If your dino is ostreopsis, then I can confirm antibiotics will kill it. So running some in your QT might be helpful
Are you sure???

I tried amoxicilline with no results at all. That works with ciano and most bacteria but with dinos?


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Old 01/18/2015, 02:01 AM   #661
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In addition to GHA fuzz competing for real estate, photo energy and nutrients, I expect it cultivates a microcosm that consumes and/or interferes with dino biology. Bacteria, plankton, etc...

We need more science here, but the bacteria that promote vs. demote dinos are another space we need to explore.

This isn't to say that peroxide and UV don't hurt dinos, they do. But sterilization doesn't stop them from returning from a tiny refuge. They're just controls.


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Old 01/18/2015, 02:30 AM   #662
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Did you miss the possible cure for Ostreopsis dinoflagellates?

Montireefs claims need to be repeated by several third parties.
He got rid of them with two kilos of fresh live rock and 2 liters of skimmate.
With donated tank water two more reefers got rid of them as well.
He's got videos to back up what seems to be microbes attacking the dinos.
He's identified his dinos with a microscope.

Drop your gut feeling and let's prove if this really works.


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Old 01/18/2015, 03:48 AM   #663
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My water is available for anyone who wants to get rid of dinos (at least ostreopsis).

The only problem is that I live in Madrid...


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Old 01/18/2015, 08:52 AM   #664
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Hello everyone,

I am also battling dinoflagellates. I've already made the decision to remove all my rock and sand and nuke it ( bleach and muriatic acid). Is there a way I can clean my snails, hermit crabs and peppermint shrimp and reuse them in my tank after everything is thoroughly cleaned and not chance dinos getting in the new tank?

I currently have a hospital tank that I cured ich on my 3 fish that I was thinking about putting my CUC and a couple corals in while I nuke the rock and clean the tank.
Aside from potenital dinoflagellate contamination, the corals and cuc from a tank infested with crytocryon irritans may introduce encysted parasites into the "hopsital tank". These animals may also be harmed by fish medications you may use in qt.


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Old 01/18/2015, 10:57 AM   #665
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Aside from potenital dinoflagellate contamination, the corals and cuc from a tank infested with crytocryon irritans may introduce encysted parasites into the "hopsital tank". These animals may also be harmed by fish medications you may use in qt.
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Old 01/18/2015, 11:12 AM   #666
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I don't know if I my tank is finally bearing dinos but I am starting to grow some cyno. I have been feeding heavy to try to elevate nutrients to grow something other than dino. My theory is that if I can get hair cyno and other algae to grow I can find a balance. Not too worried about hair or cyno as they are easy to deal with. I will repost if things change one way or the other


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Old 01/18/2015, 12:05 PM   #667
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Pretty sure that I have dinos in my 180g. Attached are a few pics I took under 800x, just wanted to get a 100% confirmation on it before I start treatment. Can anyone identify these pics? Thanks
That is Prorocentrum. Thats actually the group I study and was hoping to find when i started talking to reefers. I have never had someone send me a sample that actually turned out to be Prorocentrum. You can find some images on my website

Like the other dinos we've observed it is a benthic species that creates toxins (diarrhetic shellfish poisoning).

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Old 01/18/2015, 12:07 PM   #668
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Nice shots JohhnyPJ.
You definitely have dinoflagellates and they are not Ostreopsis.

Out of the most common tank species yours look most like Prorocentrum.
To be sure look at online videos and compare movement behavior.

Edit: Doh! Someone beat me to it. : )


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Old 01/18/2015, 08:02 PM   #669
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That is Prorocentrum. Thats actually the group I study and was hoping to find when i started talking to reefers. I have never had someone send me a sample that actually turned out to be Prorocentrum. You can find some images on my website

Like the other dinos we've observed it is a benthic species that creates toxins (diarrhetic shellfish poisoning).

<--- same as my avatar
Thank so much for the quick reply guys! We are considering a few different things for treatment but are also open to your suggestions.

1) LFS suggested black out for 10 days followed by a 6 hour light cycle for 3 days and repeat for up to 2 months.
2) Increase ph by dosing kalkwasser to 8.6-8.9.
3) Dose hydrogen peroxide to whole tank at 1ml per 10 gallons for 2 weeks

What do you guys think?

Pants we have lots to go around, let us know if you want a sample.

Thanks again!


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Old 01/19/2015, 01:48 PM   #670
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Is there a list of the most common dinos in a home reef and their identification (macro and micro)?


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Old 01/19/2015, 02:14 PM   #671
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Hey Pants, I'll in Frederick this Saturday 1/24, in the morning likely.
I can carry 1 gallon or so from my tank with some really happy and healthy dinos. Maybe you can ID them for me. I've tried so many things and nothing works that I'm wondering if I truly have dinos or I have the meanest creature on Earth in my tank. 1 year and counting fighting it...

I'll send you a PM.


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Old 01/19/2015, 02:16 PM   #672
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Is there a list of the most common dinos in a home reef and their identification (macro and micro)?
I see you have not been paying much attention.
It's been mentioned at least 10 times in this thread.
Try 4 posts up for last reference.


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Old 01/19/2015, 02:24 PM   #673
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Hey Pants, I'll in Frederick this Saturday 1/24, in the morning likely.
I can carry 1 gallon or so from my tank with some really happy and healthy dinos. Maybe you can ID them for me. I've tried so many things and nothing works that I'm wondering if I truly have dinos or I have the meanest creature on Earth in my tank. 1 year and counting fighting it...

I'll send you a PM.
I'll be there. From the macro shots you posted awhile ago it sure looks like dinos to me. I don't seem to be as good as others at identifying these from macro photos though.


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Old 01/19/2015, 08:51 PM   #674
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? There are several posts with individual cases. I've posted the one with general dinos , but not one specific to captive reefs.


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Wow Pants, nice site- great pics!


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