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Old 01/14/2019, 07:50 AM   #1
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Is Phyto Feast increasing my Nitrate levels?

Hi again everyone!
I have a nice cocoa worm that I've had for several weeks now. I've been target feeding it PhytoFeast (5 ml - a syringe full) every day now.
A couple of days ago I've noticed that one of my sea urchins (a Black Spine) has been losing its spines and acting sluggish.
I said to myself uh oh - better check the nitrates and sure enough - they're OVER 50 PPM!
I've dont TWO large water changes, back to back on 2 days, and I've started dosing with suger. The nitrates are just STARTING to go down a bit.
ALL my fish and OTHER inverts are fine (Emerald crab, hermits, snails, shrimp, etc)....
Is it because of too much Phyto Feast?
If so how much should I feed my cocoa worm? And HOW OFTEN?
To put it another way, how do I keep him happy while reducing my nitrates and KEEPING them down? I don't want him to die
ANY insight would be appreciated!!!


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Old 01/14/2019, 08:54 AM   #2
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I don't think it would require daily feedings, that seems excessive but I don't have experience keeping them. However any food you add to the tank can increase nutrients. 5ml isn't all that much, likely more than the worm needs though. But it definitely will raise nitrates. It being your sole contributor to high nitrates I doubt though.


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Old 01/14/2019, 09:01 AM   #3
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I had hundreds, if o not thousands of feather dusters in my previous system. I never bought any of them. They are micro filter feeders. They feed on algae cells and other micro nutrients in the water column.

I wouldn't worry about it, it will feed. Feeding some phyto feast and other micro nutrients once or twice a week if you have a lot of corals and worms, then sure, but, I honestly wouldn't put worry or concern about it. Overfeeding is a much bigger issue than under feeding our critters!


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Old 01/14/2019, 11:06 AM   #4
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If your system is established and you haven't had nitrate problems till before the phytofeast and now you are then its a safe bet to say its from that feeding..

If you have an established system its unlikely that you really need to feed a worm.. Most certainly unlikely to be daily..

While I haven't used that food specifically 5ml seems like quite a bit..

I agree that weekly (if that) feedings are likely sufficient (if at all)


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Old 01/14/2019, 12:20 PM   #5
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I have encountered nitrate issues with phytofeast in the past. I really like the stuff, but my algae usually takes a turn for the worse when I dose.


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Old 01/15/2019, 05:32 AM   #6
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Phytofeast raised my nitrates an absurdly amount also. Stopped feeding it twice a week and nitrates came down to a more normal level.



I now prefer live 3 species phyto from algae barn. The live variety doesn't raise nutrients even though I'm adding 5ml daily.


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Old 01/15/2019, 12:13 PM   #7
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If your aquarium is established, just feed once a week. I have a lot of filter feeders and I see more everyday. My tank is almost a year old. About 600 gallons. I feed my coral 1 time a week. About 10 mil Phytofeast 10 mil Oysterfeast a cube of rodifers and a big ole tablespoon of reef roids, Mixed with 500 ml tank water. I try to spot feed everyone with the turkey baster. The ones I cant get to get plenty. It takes about 6 hours for the tank to clear after feeding. I have about 3 to 4 N and .05 to.1 P


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I was told that blending multiple strains of phyto together will lead to die off of all but 1 strain in the bottle. I believe this is why some brands of phyto has a small to it. I only feed single strains at a time. Iso and Nano are really all a reef tank needs. IMHO



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I was told that blending multiple strains of phyto together will lead to die off of all but 1 strain in the bottle. I believe this is why some brands of phyto has a small to it. I only feed single strains at a time. Iso and Nano are really all a reef tank needs. IMHO
I believe the dieoff would be if you try to culture more from the mix. One eventually dominates, and its probably the Nanno. I'd add Tetraselmis to the mix as well, the three are all very good. Though pods will have an easier time eating Tet and Iso.


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I have my coco work for 18 months. Havenít target feed it one single time.

So yes I would say if you wanted to feed it once in a while itís ok. But target feeding if everyday will simple just cause a nutrient problem


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