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Old 09/26/2016, 04:42 PM   #26
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I like the fish side view - looked different building from my perspective. Looking forward to seeing this one get wet! Thanks for the opportunity to work on this build with you!


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Old 10/06/2016, 10:13 PM   #27
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The sump is delayed for another week. Bah.. Can't do any plumbing. Taking the time to add more electrical outlets around the room. Drilled some holes for RODI line and bought a Spectrapure Maxcap. also wired a Cat6 cable to the tank for APEX.

some more goodies arrived..

plumbing parts.. wanted white and red tank for years but somehow ended up with all black. Black wall, black tank, black sump, red pipes

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Old 10/06/2016, 10:31 PM   #28
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The sump is delayed for another week. Bah.. Can't do any plumbing. Taking the time to add more electrical outlets around the room. Drilled some holes for RODI line and bought a Spectrapure Maxcap. also wired a Cat6 cable to the tank for APEX.

some more goodies arrived..

plumbing parts.. wanted white and red tank for years but somehow ended up with all black. Black wall, black tank, black sump, red pipes

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Seaswirls


room is starting to get crazy


Looks like my living room. Can't wait to see the equipment out of boxes and in your aquarium


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Old 10/11/2016, 01:05 AM   #29
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so the Gyre 280 standalone unit is still out.. this got me thinking about switching to Vortech MP60s. The only pump that won't have any wires inside the tank, which I really dislike.

What do you guys think? 2 Gyre 280s or 5 MP60s.
(I know about gyre quality)

I also have 4 seaswirls for returns.

2 MP60 on each side and 3 on back wall? over kill?
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Old 10/11/2016, 08:04 AM   #30
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Are you using all four sea swirls as returns from your sump pump? Why not use two of them in a closed loop with a second variable speed pump?

On internal flow... Why don't you just start with one MP60 or Gyre on each end? And then later add more.

IMO Ecotech Marine propeller pumps and Gyre can't compare to each other, they have a completely different flow patters. Better make sure to look at the flow that you are trying to archive and choose on a product accordingly.


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Old 10/11/2016, 08:36 AM   #31
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so the Gyre 280 standalone unit is still out.. this got me thinking about switching to Vortech MP60s. The only pump that won't have any wires inside the tank, which I really dislike.

What do you guys think? 2 Gyre 280s or 5 MP60s.
(I know about gyre quality)

I also have 4 seaswirls for returns.

2 MP60 on each side and 3 on back wall? over kill?
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Old 10/11/2016, 09:49 AM   #32
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Are you using all four sea swirls as returns from your sump pump? Why not use two of them in a closed loop with a second variable speed pump?

On internal flow... Why don't you just start with one MP60 or Gyre on each end? And then later add more.

IMO Ecotech Marine propeller pumps and Gyre can't compare to each other, they have a completely different flow patters. Better make sure to look at the flow that you are trying to archive and choose on a product accordingly.
I haven't designed any closed loop system. Didn't really want to go that direction. If I did, I think I'd go with an Ocean Motion. All 4 SeaSwirls are attached to sump return.

I figured the SS will provide decent water movement at the surface. The MP60s I can place low enough to give movement at the lower portion.

in the long run, with SPS in this system, I will eventually need to replace the Gyre with MP60 or WAV. But that won't be for awhile


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Old 10/11/2016, 10:25 AM   #33
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MP60s for sure
Hi Dmorty. I saw your thread on Panta Rhei Hydro Wizard. So what did you choose in the end?


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Old 10/11/2016, 11:16 AM   #34
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Looks like my living room. Can't wait to see the equipment out of boxes and in your aquarium

Looks like my house LOL
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Old 10/11/2016, 04:29 PM   #35
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yours may be getting wet earlier than mine! this sump is taking FOREVER...

just bought a Spectrapure Maxcap.. no more high TDS


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Old 10/11/2016, 04:50 PM   #36
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I used to like Vortech products, then I fell out of love in a hurry when they needed constant maintenance and replacement parts (those magnets were the worst, since that's not something you can get 3rd party), their PSUs turned to crap (which luckily was something 3rd party you could get as they charged way more than they should have).

That said, the newer QD models seemed to have fixed all the issues I had with the wetsides over the years I've had them. I may end up replacing all the wetsides with the QD wet sides and ... but I dunno. I like the idea of the Gyre pumps a lot, especially with large open expanses... but I personally have no experience with them.


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Old 10/11/2016, 06:03 PM   #37
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I like the Vortech QDs. more than Gyre and I've been using Gyre since day 1. However I don't like the idea of 5-6 MP60s with 5-6 controllers and plugs. I'll need a bunch of APEX links too..

I just bought the Panta Rhei Hydro Wizard ECM63. Will post some reviews once my tank gets wet. This beast alone is suppose to be strong enough for my tank.


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Old 10/11/2016, 06:47 PM   #38
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I have decided to give the German product a try.. bought the Panta Rhei ECM63.


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Old 10/11/2016, 08:55 PM   #39
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yours may be getting wet earlier than mine! this sump is taking FOREVER...

just bought a Spectrapure Maxcap.. no more high TDS


Everything in due time! I'm sure it will look fire when the time comes!


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Old 10/15/2016, 01:12 AM   #40
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good news is sump is finished. bad news delivery guy got "stuck". so I'll see if I can get it this weekend..

in the mean while. some pictures of new equipment

Panta Rhei ECM 63 pump. This and 4 SS should handle all the flow needs for now



very expensive snail guard... and no instruction on how to install it..



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Old 10/15/2016, 05:38 AM   #41
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These pumps are monsters! I have four of these. To much.

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Old 10/15/2016, 10:01 AM   #42
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Dam you go all out on the toys.... Very nice!


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wow 4? did you get the ECM42?

Do you know how to install this snail guard? there's no English instructions on this



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Old 10/15/2016, 12:02 PM   #45
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wow 4? did you get the ECM42?

Do you know how to install this snail guard? there's no English instructions on this
No four ECM 63

The German instruction isn't better I know the owner of Panta Rhei and he visit me so he explained to me how it works

Remove the cover of the snail guard by four screws. Put pump inside and put cable to the hole between cover and pump guard and put cover with screws back. Now you can connect cover with pump by 3 screws.

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thanks! got it to work.

how big is your tank to require 4 ECM63?




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Doesn't require. Two may be enough but I want reserve.

Build treat here is "Angeltown" 5.500 liter

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Use this pumps for 12 months already without snail guard and props doesn't damage. Some little fish died in there so I bought snail guard.

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Old 10/15/2016, 04:17 PM   #49
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Looks like its going to be amazing...


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Old 10/15/2016, 10:15 PM   #50
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good news is sump is finished. bad news delivery guy got "stuck". so I'll see if I can get it this weekend..

in the mean while. some pictures of new equipment

Panta Rhei ECM 63 pump. This and 4 SS should handle all the flow needs for now



very expensive snail guard... and no instruction on how to install it..


How much flow and how does it work?!!


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