Reefbreeders supernova preview

bigzman · 08/30/2014, 07:25 PM

http://blog.aquanerd.com/2014/08/ree...supernova.html

Looks cool what do the experts think?

ganjero · 08/30/2014, 07:41 PM

There aren't many details to give an honest opinion. I do want to know if this really is a "reefbreeders" fixture, design by them and the "several years of research" were conducted by them, or if this another rebranded fixture sold by RB?

Seems interesting though, it looks like they put a row in the front and the back for the blue/violets to mimic the common layout when mixing T5/VHO and MH.

Reef_Breeders · 08/31/2014, 07:01 PM

The light is 100% our design, it is not designed by another company. The SuperNova is our effort to target the reefer who wants the best light there is, and we feel that it will live up to that standard.

ca1ore · 08/31/2014, 08:37 PM

What I'd really like to know is whether this light can be dimmed seamlessly down to nothing like an incandescent bulb? I really like the Photon series but dimming leaves something to be desired (but it is a value fixture, so ...... )

that Fish Guy · 08/31/2014, 10:01 PM

When you think of Reef Breeders you think of more on the Inexpensive Side.

I believe they start at 169.99 (Correct me if I am Wrong).

Now they are coming out with one of the Most Expensive Lights on the Market? 700.00 to 800.00

That is not their Target Market.

People with that kind of Money to Spend get Radions, Mitras, PacSun, etc.

They are Not going to buy a Reef Breeders Fixture.

This seems like it will be a Complete Failure.

They should Focus on Making the Lights Cheaper Not More Expensive.

Fallling · 09/01/2014, 12:30 AM

I disagree... I bought a PacSun fixture and if the supernova had actually come out at any of the expected release dates over the past year, I would have seriously looked into it as another option. RB fixtures, while not expensive, do seem to have good results for many people. They just don't look sleek or have all the features as higher end units. There's nothing wrong with wanting to tap into the higher end market and provide consumers with another option.

supra400hptt · 09/01/2014, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca1ore

What I'd really like to know is whether this light can be dimmed seamlessly down to nothing like an incandescent bulb? I really like the Photon series but dimming leaves something to be desired (but it is a value fixture, so ...... )

I concur. My number one pet peeve with lights. I will not buy anything without smooth ramp up and down. I talked a friend into a photon a while back and the abrupt change in intensity every 30 minutes irks me.

JDWells · 09/01/2014, 05:53 AM

I really like my photon 32 because it was affordable, has the features I want, but none that I don't care about (like storms, etc)
Also for 450 I got full coverage on a 4ft 90 which would take at least 2 of the "high end" fixtures. If this one at 700-800 can still do that then I think it's competitive. I'm curious for sure.

Reef_Breeders · 09/01/2014, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca1ore

What I'd really like to know is whether this light can be dimmed seamlessly down to nothing like an incandescent bulb? I really like the Photon series but dimming leaves something to be desired (but it is a value fixture, so ...... )

The dimming is smooth, incredibly smooth. The controller is very advanced, we had the program designed specificially for us to be intuitive, versatile, and upgrade-able. There are 10 control channels which are programmed with onboard wifi, we will be releasing a web app for computers, as well as an app for android and ios smartphones.

Quote:

Originally Posted by that Fish Guy

When you think of Reef Breeders you think of more on the Inexpensive Side.

I believe they start at 169.99 (Correct me if I am Wrong).

Now they are coming out with one of the Most Expensive Lights on the Market? 700.00 to 800.00

That is not their Target Market.

People with that kind of Money to Spend get Radions, Mitras, PacSun, etc.

They are Not going to buy a Reef Breeders Fixture.

This seems like it will be a Complete Failure.

They should Focus on Making the Lights Cheaper Not More Expensive.

We have been in the industry for years providing quality products and exceptional service. That is what our brand is based on, not cheapness. Yes, we offer a wide range of affordable products, but we feel that this is our time to branch out to the reef keeper who wants a little something more than your everyday light.

The SuperNova is an extraordinary light built for the reef keeper who wants it all, and it is a truly unique and beautiful piece of engineering. Make no mistake, the SuperNova is going to be a major contender.

meshwheel · 09/01/2014, 09:10 AM

I believe one Supernova will do a 32" long area as well. Thats much better coverage then the Radion or AI fixture.
Anywhere else we can see pics??? I would like to see the top of the light!

Reef_Breeders · 09/01/2014, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meshwheel

I believe one Supernova will do a 32" long area as well. Thats much better coverage then the Radion or AI fixture.
Anywhere else we can see pics??? I would like to see the top of the light!

From what we could see at MACNA, it should cover a 36" by 30" area with ease.

We will be testing the par values over that coverage area, as well as sending the light to an independent lab for testing.

ca1ore · 09/01/2014, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef_Breeders

The dimming is smooth, incredibly smooth. The controller is very advanced, we had the program designed specificially for us to be intuitive, versatile, and upgrade-able. There are 10 control channels which are programmed with onboard wifi, we will be releasing a web app for computers, as well as an app for android and ios smartphones.

I'll be interested in seeing one of these, no question. But will it dim down to nothing? My issue with the Photon is that even the transition from 1% to zero is dramatic (I don't think 1% is really 1%). I know it can be done because the current ramp timer I use on my other tank takes the strip lights essentially down to nothing before going off completely.

Reef_Breeders · 09/01/2014, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca1ore

I'll be interested in seeing one of these, no question. But will it dim down to nothing? My issue with the Photon is that even the transition from 1% to zero is dramatic (I don't think 1% is really 1%). I know it can be done because the current ramp timer I use on my other tank takes the strip lights essentially down to nothing before going off completely.

Absolutely. The controller is leagues ahead of the photon controller.

ca1ore · 09/01/2014, 11:04 AM

Thanks Logan, looking forward to seeing one in action.

that Fish Guy · 09/01/2014, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef_Breeders

From what we could see at MACNA, it should cover a 36" by 30" area with ease.

We will be testing the par values over that coverage area, as well as sending the light to an independent lab for testing.

Hydra 52 Covers 36" and is much Sleeker and 200 Cheaper

Reef_Breeders · 09/01/2014, 12:39 PM

36 by 30 with sps. Not a fowlr tank with a ton of shadows...

bigzman · 09/01/2014, 01:38 PM

Logan,

you guys define exceptional service. That Fish Guy, I didn't know Hydra52 could cover 36" by 36" wide at 30" deep for SPS. Its seems Hydras at 30x30 are not able to keep SPS at 50 - 0 par rating.

Does anyone know if a radion g3 pro can cover 36"x36" at 30 inches?

08/30/2014, 07:25 PM	#1
bigzman Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Tampa FL Posts: 2,807	Reefbreeders supernova preview http://blog.aquanerd.com/2014/08/ree...supernova.html Looks cool what do the experts think? __________________ 330g SPS - LED/T5 - EShopp S-300 Skimmer - 4 x Jebao PP20- reefkeeper elite Current Tank Info: 210 gallon mixed reef lps sps

08/31/2014, 08:37 PM	#4
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	What I'd really like to know is whether this light can be dimmed seamlessly down to nothing like an incandescent bulb? I really like the Photon series but dimming leaves something to be desired (but it is a value fixture, so ...... ) __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

09/01/2014, 09:10 AM	#10
meshwheel Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,430	I believe one Supernova will do a 32" long area as well. Thats much better coverage then the Radion or AI fixture. Anywhere else we can see pics??? I would like to see the top of the light! __________________ ............And then the cops showed up

09/01/2014, 11:04 AM	#14
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Thanks Logan, looking forward to seeing one in action. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

09/01/2014, 01:38 PM	#17
bigzman Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Tampa FL Posts: 2,807	Supernova Logan, you guys define exceptional service. That Fish Guy, I didn't know Hydra52 could cover 36" by 36" wide at 30" deep for SPS. Its seems Hydras at 30x30 are not able to keep SPS at 50 - 0 par rating. Does anyone know if a radion g3 pro can cover 36"x36" at 30 inches? __________________ 330g SPS - LED/T5 - EShopp S-300 Skimmer - 4 x Jebao PP20- reefkeeper elite Current Tank Info: 210 gallon mixed reef lps sps

08/30/2014, 07:41 PM	#2
ganjero saiperchémibatteilcorazon Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 4,027	There aren't many details to give an honest opinion. I do want to know if this really is a "reefbreeders" fixture, design by them and the "several years of research" were conducted by them, or if this another rebranded fixture sold by RB? Seems interesting though, it looks like they put a row in the front and the back for the blue/violets to mimic the common layout when mixing T5/VHO and MH.

08/31/2014, 07:01 PM	#3
Reef_Breeders Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 226	The light is 100% our design, it is not designed by another company. The SuperNova is our effort to target the reefer who wants the best light there is, and we feel that it will live up to that standard.

08/31/2014, 10:01 PM	#5
that Fish Guy Frag Swap Crusader! Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,538	When you think of Reef Breeders you think of more on the Inexpensive Side. I believe they start at 169.99 (Correct me if I am Wrong). Now they are coming out with one of the Most Expensive Lights on the Market? 700.00 to 800.00 That is not their Target Market. People with that kind of Money to Spend get Radions, Mitras, PacSun, etc. They are Not going to buy a Reef Breeders Fixture. This seems like it will be a Complete Failure. They should Focus on Making the Lights Cheaper Not More Expensive.

09/01/2014, 12:30 AM	#6
Fallling Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 455	I disagree... I bought a PacSun fixture and if the supernova had actually come out at any of the expected release dates over the past year, I would have seriously looked into it as another option. RB fixtures, while not expensive, do seem to have good results for many people. They just don't look sleek or have all the features as higher end units. There's nothing wrong with wanting to tap into the higher end market and provide consumers with another option.

09/01/2014, 05:53 AM	#8
JDWells Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 54	I really like my photon 32 because it was affordable, has the features I want, but none that I don't care about (like storms, etc) Also for 450 I got full coverage on a 4ft 90 which would take at least 2 of the "high end" fixtures. If this one at 700-800 can still do that then I think it's competitive. I'm curious for sure.

09/01/2014, 12:39 PM	#16
Reef_Breeders Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 226	36 by 30 with sps. Not a fowlr tank with a ton of shadows...