RVANANO's 300 peninsula reef build - Page 44

RVANANO · 02/21/2018, 09:11 PM

Live Aquaria order showed up.

FloatingFish · 02/21/2018, 09:26 PM

Very nice Brandon! Be careful with the leds they put out more par than you may think.

RVANANO · 02/21/2018, 09:53 PM

I know, I'm keeping it low. I've even dialed it back a bit. Coral is all doing well with the transition.

RVANANO · 03/14/2018, 03:23 PM

I have been having an issue with excessive algae lately. Nothing has changed other than the lighting. My larger SPS colonies are starting to suffer and die back. I acclimated and still don't have it going over 60% intensity and it only gets close to full white for about an hour or so mid afternoon. It's only at 60 for about 2 hours too. Nothing is bleaching out but the algae is covering the coral which is killing it off. The algae is stringy with bubbles. Noticed that PH is on the rise too currently at 8.49. I am concerned because these colonies are large and years old. I may switch back to MH. The LFS said they haven't heard of this issue.

Perhaps the intensity is still too high but if so, it's a bummer because at 35-40%, the tank is too dim. If I have to run such low intensity with mostly blue, I don't see the point of having these. Also, my lighting is set about 10" above the water surface.

Misled · 03/14/2018, 04:31 PM

Brandon, didn't you add some t5's a while back? You could run some daylights in them and back off the white in the LED"s. That's kinda what I figured for mine.

SPotter · 03/14/2018, 07:59 PM

stringy with bubbles sounds like dino's to me. can you post a picture? I ran kessils for about 6 months and found that i couldnt take the color over 50% with intensity no higher than 65%. what are you running the color% at?

RVANANO · 03/22/2018, 02:46 PM

Tank continues to get worse. I now have the color never going over 60% and intensity doesn't go over 50%. I also cut off the T5's. The problem is actually getting exponentially worse by the day. Guess I will switch back to MH and sell my AP700's. I will be devastated in my large SPS colony dies off.

Vinny Kreyling · 03/22/2018, 04:33 PM

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laverda · 03/22/2018, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPotter

stringy with bubbles sounds like dino's to me. can you post a picture? I ran kessils for about 6 months and found that i couldnt take the color over 50% with intensity no higher than 65%. what are you running the color% at?

I would agree. Post a couple photos as well as your tank perimeters.

RVANANO · 03/24/2018, 07:59 PM

Just seems odd that the tank is 3 years old and I never had this problem prior. It literally started when I changed to LED. I will post up all my levels this week but I am still likely to switch back. I don't like the AP700's on the blue setting all the time. What's the point of having white if you can't use it due to coral bleaching?

mfaso24 · 03/25/2018, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVANANO

Just seems odd that the tank is 3 years old and I never had this problem prior. It literally started when I changed to LED. I will post up all my levels this week but I am still likely to switch back. I don't like the AP700's on the blue setting all the time. What's the point of having white if you can't use it due to coral bleaching?

You’d probably have to gradually acclimate them to a whiter setting. Must have shocked them. As we all know, corals are like grumpy old men and don’t like change. I love my kessils but I wouldn’t blame you if you switched back after your results.

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rvareef · 03/25/2018, 06:11 AM

sounds like your whites are too high and are producing dinos, have you run leds before? Switching your lighting on a 3 year old tank will have some problems, and led is not plug and play like your previous light setups. They will require adjusting till you find that sweet spot, and they are powerful and can kill corals if the settings are not right.

RVANANO · 04/29/2018, 04:20 PM

I put the lights back on acclimate for a few weeks and then tried raising the levels ever so slightly while staying almost full blue. I ended up losing a lot of coral and my favorite large SPS colony is really struggling. I went back to MH today and listed my Kessil's on eBay.

dogpoo · 04/29/2018, 08:44 PM

sorry to see you had a bad swap. good luck with your recovery!

RVANANO · 05/05/2018, 07:23 PM

The tank is already doing better since I switched back. Although I probably lost $750-1k worth of coral. Expensive lesson. And no matter what anyone says about dialing it in, I ran on full blue with low intensity for weeks and slowly ramped it up with no whites at all and it was still terrible. I really don't see the point of these lights since everyone says never run full white for full intensity. Why is it even an option on there? Why would anyone want a windex tank? I can at least say I tried what I avoided so long and am so happy to be back to MH. Just seems harder to find bulbs so I am going to start buying 3 bulbs every 4-6 months and stock pile a few years worth.

d2mini · 05/05/2018, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RVANANO

The tank is already doing better since I switched back. Although I probably lost $750-1k worth of coral. Expensive lesson. And no matter what anyone says about dialing it in, I ran on full blue with low intensity for weeks and slowly ramped it up with no whites at all and it was still terrible. I really don't see the point of these lights since everyone says never run full white for full intensity. Why is it even an option on there? Why would anyone want a windex tank? I can at least say I tried what I avoided so long and am so happy to be back to MH. Just seems harder to find bulbs so I am going to start buying 3 bulbs every 4-6 months and stock pile a few years worth.

Sorry to read about your troubles, Brandon! That sucks.
Glad it seems like it's recovering now though.

In regards to the lighting, I'm curious why you changed spectrum so drastically (blues only)? I would have tried to mimick your old spectrum and just run it real low intensity, ramping up 5% per day or something like that. Not sure if that would have made a difference, just how I would have gone about it. FWIW, I run my leds with a decent amount of white. I hate that windex look.

But yeah, its still hard to beat a mh/t5 tank. Unless electricity is just killing you in your area, I don't see a good reason to swap.
Good luck with the recovery!

RVANANO · 05/06/2018, 04:54 AM

Thanks, Dennis. You are literally the only person to suggest running the same spectrum. Everyone I actually spoke to with knowledge of these lights said you can't run full white at all. Which seemed silly to me too. At any rate, I just wasn't willing to invest the time to dial them in while witnessing my tank die off. And to be honest, I didn't like the visual brightness of the lights even the first time I ran them to 100% at full white just to see what they would look like. With all new Megachrome 12,500 and T5's from Geiseman, the tank looks better than ever! At least in regards to the lighting.. Will have to start over with a lot of SPS.

02/21/2018, 09:11 PM	#1076
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	Live Aquaria order showed up. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

02/21/2018, 09:26 PM	#1077
FloatingFish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Odell, ILL. Posts: 540	Very nice Brandon! Be careful with the leds they put out more par than you may think. __________________ . Current Tank Info: None

02/21/2018, 09:53 PM	#1078
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	I know, I'm keeping it low. I've even dialed it back a bit. Coral is all doing well with the transition. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

03/14/2018, 03:23 PM	#1079
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	I have been having an issue with excessive algae lately. Nothing has changed other than the lighting. My larger SPS colonies are starting to suffer and die back. I acclimated and still don't have it going over 60% intensity and it only gets close to full white for about an hour or so mid afternoon. It's only at 60 for about 2 hours too. Nothing is bleaching out but the algae is covering the coral which is killing it off. The algae is stringy with bubbles. Noticed that PH is on the rise too currently at 8.49. I am concerned because these colonies are large and years old. I may switch back to MH. The LFS said they haven't heard of this issue. Perhaps the intensity is still too high but if so, it's a bummer because at 35-40%, the tank is too dim. If I have to run such low intensity with mostly blue, I don't see the point of having these. Also, my lighting is set about 10" above the water surface. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

03/14/2018, 04:31 PM	#1080
Misled RC Mod Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 11,440 Blog Entries: 11	Brandon, didn't you add some t5's a while back? You could run some daylights in them and back off the white in the LED"s. That's kinda what I figured for mine. __________________ Jesse I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying nobody has ever seen me and Batman in a room together.

03/14/2018, 07:59 PM	#1081
SPotter Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 5,691	stringy with bubbles sounds like dino's to me. can you post a picture? I ran kessils for about 6 months and found that i couldnt take the color over 50% with intensity no higher than 65%. what are you running the color% at? __________________ Steve Am I really doing all of this for a fish tank?????? Current Tank Info: 360g Envision Acrylic Tank, Closed Loops, Vectra L1's, MP40QD's, 400w Radiums, Regal 300ext, Dastaco Ext3 CaRx, Controlled by GHL Profilux

03/22/2018, 02:46 PM	#1082
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	Tank continues to get worse. I now have the color never going over 60% and intensity doesn't go over 50%. I also cut off the T5's. The problem is actually getting exponentially worse by the day. Guess I will switch back to MH and sell my AP700's. I will be devastated in my large SPS colony dies off. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

03/22/2018, 04:33 PM	#1083
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...is+flucanazole __________________ 250 gallon mixed reef, 2 Reefbreeder's Photon V 2, Deepwater BLDC 12, DAS EX-3 Skimmer, MTC mini cal, 2-3/4" Sea Swirls, Aquacontroller & 6 Tunze pumps.

03/24/2018, 07:59 PM	#1085
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	Just seems odd that the tank is 3 years old and I never had this problem prior. It literally started when I changed to LED. I will post up all my levels this week but I am still likely to switch back. I don't like the AP700's on the blue setting all the time. What's the point of having white if you can't use it due to coral bleaching? __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

03/25/2018, 06:11 AM	#1087
rvareef In Memoriam Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 664	sounds like your whites are too high and are producing dinos, have you run leds before? Switching your lighting on a 3 year old tank will have some problems, and led is not plug and play like your previous light setups. They will require adjusting till you find that sweet spot, and they are powerful and can kill corals if the settings are not right.

04/29/2018, 04:20 PM	#1088
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	I put the lights back on acclimate for a few weeks and then tried raising the levels ever so slightly while staying almost full blue. I ended up losing a lot of coral and my favorite large SPS colony is really struggling. I went back to MH today and listed my Kessil's on eBay. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

04/29/2018, 08:44 PM	#1089
dogpoo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 13	sorry to see you had a bad swap. good luck with your recovery!

05/05/2018, 07:23 PM	#1090
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	The tank is already doing better since I switched back. Although I probably lost $750-1k worth of coral. Expensive lesson. And no matter what anyone says about dialing it in, I ran on full blue with low intensity for weeks and slowly ramped it up with no whites at all and it was still terrible. I really don't see the point of these lights since everyone says never run full white for full intensity. Why is it even an option on there? Why would anyone want a windex tank? I can at least say I tried what I avoided so long and am so happy to be back to MH. Just seems harder to find bulbs so I am going to start buying 3 bulbs every 4-6 months and stock pile a few years worth. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress

05/06/2018, 04:54 AM	#1092
RVANANO SWAGON Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,404	Thanks, Dennis. You are literally the only person to suggest running the same spectrum. Everyone I actually spoke to with knowledge of these lights said you can't run full white at all. Which seemed silly to me too. At any rate, I just wasn't willing to invest the time to dial them in while witnessing my tank die off. And to be honest, I didn't like the visual brightness of the lights even the first time I ran them to 100% at full white just to see what they would look like. With all new Megachrome 12,500 and T5's from Geiseman, the tank looks better than ever! At least in regards to the lighting.. Will have to start over with a lot of SPS. __________________ Brandon "Your opinion is appreciated. Unless it's stupid" -Me Current Tank Info: "Nano" 300 peninsula reef in progress