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Unread 02/09/2016, 07:49 PM   #3851
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That's very interesting. So you set the acclimation mode, do you set a finish % as well. Then a timeline and it gradually goes to there?
Or how does it work?

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With the AI system you just give a reduction and duration. The software bases everything off the operating settings for the acclimation function.


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Unread 02/09/2016, 08:04 PM   #3852
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Oh ok. Gotcha. Wish I had something like that on mine. guess that's one of the drawbacks to a "DIY" setup.


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Unread 02/09/2016, 08:31 PM   #3853
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Hi all,
I've been reading through this thread and have some questions... I have my Hydra 52 set much lower than it seems everyone else does and am having problems with zoas shrinking away to nothing on me.
I recently increased the lighting slightly thinking I didn't have enough and that made things worse.
My water chemistry is good with calcium around 430 and alk around 8.7.

My lighting is a Vega and a Hydra about 10" AWL.

I have a PAR meter set in some rocks about mid way up the tank ( 36x17x21deep) It registers about 80-90 PAR during peak lighting hours...

My settings from APEX are in images below... any feedback would be appreciated!


https://goo.gl/photos/GDXXWyWgqAzuDGwu7


https://goo.gl/photos/DpebYiHKwc3x9obb9

Hours are 11:30-6:30 peak... with about an hour of ramp on either side

Hydra: 25%
R-30
G-30
B-100
RB-100
DB-100
V-100
UV-100
CW-40
WW-40
NW-40

Vega:42%
R-30
G-30
B-100
RB-100
DB-100
V-100
UV-100
CW-50
WW-50
NW-50

I know the vega doesn't have all those lights, its just easier to program them the same so that the lights it does have come on at the same values... but open to suggestions.



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Unread 02/09/2016, 09:53 PM   #3854
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Only have zoas? Anything else doing good or bad? Zoas can handle more par than that.. I would be searching for another answer... water quality or a pest nudibranch or something...


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Unread 02/10/2016, 08:25 AM   #3855
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Most everything else is doing well. Softies mostly. Acan, Frogspawn, duncans, etc. the only thing not doing well besides the zoas is a red goniopora...
looked for pests a lot and haven't seen anything (and I can see even the tiniest copepods in my fuge)... would't I see specific heads deteriorate if pests were the case and not the decline of 2-3 small colonys as a whole. Also have one small colony of zoas doing well.
Thanks for the input.


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Unread 02/10/2016, 08:57 PM   #3856
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I would say those setting are pretty good based on the amount of light you had before... shouldn't be too much IMO... you will probably want to play with it a bit as that is right much white
Thanks man,

Just abit confused on your last comment, you think this is too much white with my settings for a start anyway?

Currently am running 3 white tubes and 2 purple ones in my tank so have abit of white light. Thinking this may also be helping feed my GHA......Should I be looking at more like 30% of CW to start and maybe bumping the blues by another 5%?


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Unread 02/11/2016, 12:57 AM   #3857
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i have almost 0 coralline growth with my hydra 26. my white sump light has coralline growing everywhere so it ain't a chemistry issue it's something to do with the spectrum or intensity my lights are outputting anybody wanna give some tips?

W 15%
UV: 45%
G: 5%
R: 5%
Both B: 65%
V: 45%

The lights are about 2 inches off the water line so I can't go too crazy with the settings i'm looking more for some suggestions on the spectrum needed for that sweet sweet purple encrusting algae


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Unread 02/11/2016, 03:26 PM   #3858
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i have almost 0 coralline growth with my hydra 26. my white sump light has coralline growing everywhere so it ain't a chemistry issue it's something to do with the spectrum or intensity my lights are outputting anybody wanna give some tips?

W 15%
UV: 45%
G: 5%
R: 5%
Both B: 65%
V: 45%

The lights are about 2 inches off the water line so I can't go too crazy with the settings i'm looking more for some suggestions on the spectrum needed for that sweet sweet purple encrusting algae
Is there a reason 2" off the water. Seems like you will get a little better spread by raising them up. Also have a better chance of salt creep and splash.


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Unread 02/11/2016, 03:46 PM   #3859
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Is there a reason 2" off the water. Seems like you will get a little better spread by raising them up. Also have a better chance of salt creep and splash.
yeah it's definitely better if they were higher but I can't use those hanging kits, I used AI's "Classic Mounting System" so they can't go any higher since they're rails that are put on top of the tank.

any idea if my spectrum is off? corals are fine it's just coralline that has a problem in the display.


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Unread 02/11/2016, 08:25 PM   #3860
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As soon as I added AI Hydra HD's, my coralline started and has continued nicely. I'm about 8" above water and settings lower (roughly U:39, V:39, RB:39, B:25, G:7, R:3, CW:9). I love the light from the Hydra HD's, but I'm finding the software is garbage. One of my lights will NEVER respond to the automatic schedule and just stays off. The only way to control it is manually in the buggy app between crashes. My other light works perfectly, although over time it seems that the auto-schedule has a de-acclimate setting, as in over time the settings become lower and lower on the automatic schedule all by themselves. But at least the schedule continues to fire. AI Support has been competely useless, and limited to restart the light, rebuild the schedule, unpair and re-pair, all which have zero effect in the end.

I would never buy another AI Hydra HD, even though the light they produce is awesome and my corals have loved them. But I can not rely on the software and schedules to work correctly at all, so what's the point. I'm not going to sit there and manually change the settings throughout the day every day, which is the only way for them to be reliable.


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Unread 02/11/2016, 09:07 PM   #3861
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I use the rail kit and mine is a good 10 inches off the water... but maybe that's since I have the shorter one...

Honestly if corals are growing fine and doing fine isn't that the point? I would rather have corals than coraline...


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Unread 02/11/2016, 09:07 PM   #3862
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As soon as I added AI Hydra HD's, my coralline started and has continued nicely. I'm about 8" above water and settings lower (roughly U:39, V:39, RB:39, B:25, G:7, R:3, CW:9). I love the light from the Hydra HD's, but I'm finding the software is garbage. One of my lights will NEVER respond to the automatic schedule and just stays off. The only way to control it is manually in the buggy app between crashes. My other light works perfectly, although over time it seems that the auto-schedule has a de-acclimate setting, as in over time the settings become lower and lower on the automatic schedule all by themselves. But at least the schedule continues to fire. AI Support has been competely useless, and limited to restart the light, rebuild the schedule, unpair and re-pair, all which have zero effect in the end.

I would never buy another AI Hydra HD, even though the light they produce is awesome and my corals have loved them. But I can not rely on the software and schedules to work correctly at all, so what's the point. I'm not going to sit there and manually change the settings throughout the day every day, which is the only way for them to be reliable.
that's unacceptable. you couldn't ask for them to send u new units?


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Unread 02/11/2016, 09:09 PM   #3863
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Is it possible to turn on clouds but no lightning and if so how? I like the cloud feature on my gen 1 hydras.. but don't need lightning... I have the 26hds


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Unread 02/11/2016, 09:11 PM   #3864
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Yes separate control for clouds and lighting.


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Unread 02/11/2016, 09:14 PM   #3865
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So.. how exactly? I see weather and turn on and off etc... intensity and probability have sliders...


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Unread 02/11/2016, 09:16 PM   #3866
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Unread 02/11/2016, 09:24 PM   #3867
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Hmmm.. mine doesn't show those options that I see... I'm using the Web on a tablet...

I love the lights.. but the phone app sucks... freezes my phone up

Anyone know how to do clouds without lighting on the app or web?


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Unread 02/12/2016, 08:26 AM   #3868
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Hmmm.. mine doesn't show those options that I see... I'm using the Web on a tablet...

I love the lights.. but the phone app sucks... freezes my phone up

Anyone know how to do clouds without lighting on the app or web?

If you are running the non HD hydras you can use the controller


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Unread 02/12/2016, 09:15 AM   #3869
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Yea these are the HD ones


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Unread 02/12/2016, 09:16 AM   #3870
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Yea these are the HD ones

Then you have no choice but the app or web based.


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Unread 02/12/2016, 09:21 AM   #3871
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That's not what I'm saying.. I use the Web based.. I'm asking how to turn on clouds without lightning on the Web based control?


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Unread 02/12/2016, 09:26 AM   #3872
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So ive read thru about 30 to 40 pages of this thread and a few others and even called AI to discuss how many or which units to purchase. However all the info im reading is different. I run a 60 gal cube 24 inches all the way around. I was hoping to get by with a single 26 hd. I do keep sps which are mostly mid level or higher in the rock work. My highest sps is about 8 inches below water level. What im trying to get at is will one 26 hd be enough? Or ahould i go with a single 52 hd..or 2 26hd? My hesitation to go with the 52 is that the fixture is elongated and one way or the other i will probably have light spillage from it.

Any tips or help would be appreciated....currently using 24 inch 4 bulb t5...and everything is doing ok...not getting tremendous color or growth but nothing is brown or not growing


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Unread 02/12/2016, 09:50 AM   #3873
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To reduce shading, go with 2 26s


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Unread 02/12/2016, 10:23 AM   #3874
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Ty...if all my rock work is within say a 20x20 area, will i stilld end up with the shading?


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Unread 02/12/2016, 12:08 PM   #3875
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Ty...if all my rock work is within say a 20x20 area, will i stilld end up with the shading?
Eventually you will. I added a second 52 after a year to deal with it.


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