Acquiring a new haddoni

Cliving1 · 12/20/2017, 11:35 AM

If anyone has read my earlier post titled Haddoni mouth out, you know I have had issues bringing it back to good health. My lfs did a great job sourcing and is getting me another green haddoni for 45. Currently its at the store, and will stay there for a few days. My question is, should I remove my current, small, unhealthy haddoni and see if my lfs can bring it to life? Or can they share the same tank (potentially touch) and I can see if the current recovers. Would like to hear some thoughts, thanks.

fishkeeprian · 12/20/2017, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliving1

If anyone has read my earlier post titled Haddoni mouth out, you know I have had issues bringing it back to good health. My lfs did a great job sourcing and is getting me another green haddoni for 45. Currently its at the store, and will stay there for a few days. My question is, should I remove my current, small, unhealthy haddoni and see if my lfs can bring it to life? Or can they share the same tank (potentially touch) and I can see if the current recovers. Would like to hear some thoughts, thanks.

If your current one is unhealthy I wouldn't run the risk of putting them in the same tank as the other may be carrying a pathogen which could infect the other.

Cliving1 · 12/20/2017, 04:15 PM

Good point. So lets say I swap it with the lfs, and he treats the current one. How long would I have to wait in between before introducing the new one?

pfan151 · 12/20/2017, 08:12 PM

Do you have a current pic of the one you have now? Seems unlikely that it would’nt be dead by now if it was actually sick.

Cliving1 · 12/20/2017, 08:22 PM

I can get one up tomorrow, lights are off. Its reduced to 3" in diameter. Been in this state for months, no change, got my nitrates under control which I thought was the issue. So odd, it keeps clinging on.

fishkeeprian · 12/21/2017, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliving1

Good point. So lets say I swap it with the lfs, and he treats the current one. How long would I have to wait in between before introducing the new one?

Me personally I would put straight into a hospital tank and observe. You could then medicate straight away if needed, or medicate just a precaution.

I'm not sure if any potential pathogen's would linger around in your system or what the safe time period would be to introduce a new nem after removing a sick one, but if you put your new one in a hospital tank and treat then say observe for a week or two then you have given you system a bit of breathing space, some time to do some good size water changes etc.

Cliving1 · 12/21/2017, 05:39 PM

Posted originally in July

Cliving1 · 12/21/2017, 05:43 PM

This was it originally, was about 6-8" in diameter

Cliving1 · 12/22/2017, 09:57 AM

You can see its reduced in size, thrown its mouth out. Not sure what else to do with it

Cliving1 · 12/26/2017, 09:24 AM

Should be getting the anemone this week I think. Anyone have orher suggestions after seeing the pics?

OrionN · 12/26/2017, 10:26 AM

I get that little red one. Usually protruded mouth have to do with poor environmental conditions rather than sick anemones, IME. Should correct with better condition.

Good luck

Cliving1 · 12/26/2017, 11:12 AM

Yeah I did some massive water changes to get my nitrates down from 50. But all other coal looks good, not sure what the problem is.

OrionN · 12/26/2017, 11:27 AM

Nitrates is only a major contaminants. Toxic of some minor substance is often the cause, or multiple substances. The point is putting another anemone in the same condition will likely result in the same thing. I would keep on changing the water and vacuum the sand bed. If you have a functional sand bed your nitrates should not reach that high. I was able to get my carpet back to health by keep doing large water change

Cliving1 · 12/26/2017, 11:45 AM

I will keep up on the water changes, and on the next one vac the sand bed. I traditionally dont touch it, but its worth trying something new at this point. Thanks for the help. Will probably ask the lfs to hold for a bit longer.

OrionN · 12/26/2017, 11:49 AM

If you can easily move the rock, vacuum 1/3 of the sand bed at a time. The live in the undicturbed parts will spead out and repopulate the “new” part

12/20/2017, 11:35 AM	#1
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	Acquiring a new haddoni If anyone has read my earlier post titled Haddoni mouth out, you know I have had issues bringing it back to good health. My lfs did a great job sourcing and is getting me another green haddoni for 45. Currently its at the store, and will stay there for a few days. My question is, should I remove my current, small, unhealthy haddoni and see if my lfs can bring it to life? Or can they share the same tank (potentially touch) and I can see if the current recovers. Would like to hear some thoughts, thanks.

12/26/2017, 10:26 AM	#11
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	I get that little red one. Usually protruded mouth have to do with poor environmental conditions rather than sick anemones, IME. Should correct with better condition. Good luck __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

12/26/2017, 11:27 AM	#13
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	Nitrates is only a major contaminants. Toxic of some minor substance is often the cause, or multiple substances. The point is putting another anemone in the same condition will likely result in the same thing. I would keep on changing the water and vacuum the sand bed. If you have a functional sand bed your nitrates should not reach that high. I was able to get my carpet back to health by keep doing large water change __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

12/26/2017, 11:49 AM	#15
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	If you can easily move the rock, vacuum 1/3 of the sand bed at a time. The live in the undicturbed parts will spead out and repopulate the “new” part __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

12/20/2017, 04:15 PM	#3
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	Good point. So lets say I swap it with the lfs, and he treats the current one. How long would I have to wait in between before introducing the new one?

12/20/2017, 08:12 PM	#4
pfan151 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,897	Do you have a current pic of the one you have now? Seems unlikely that it would’nt be dead by now if it was actually sick.

12/20/2017, 08:22 PM	#5
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	I can get one up tomorrow, lights are off. Its reduced to 3" in diameter. Been in this state for months, no change, got my nitrates under control which I thought was the issue. So odd, it keeps clinging on.

12/22/2017, 09:57 AM	#9
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	You can see its reduced in size, thrown its mouth out. Not sure what else to do with it

12/26/2017, 09:24 AM	#10
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	Should be getting the anemone this week I think. Anyone have orher suggestions after seeing the pics?

12/26/2017, 11:12 AM	#12
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	Yeah I did some massive water changes to get my nitrates down from 50. But all other coal looks good, not sure what the problem is.

12/26/2017, 11:45 AM	#14
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	I will keep up on the water changes, and on the next one vac the sand bed. I traditionally dont touch it, but its worth trying something new at this point. Thanks for the help. Will probably ask the lfs to hold for a bit longer.