Tesselata

jt48 · 06/27/2017, 06:37 AM

I have a 33" Tesselata that is doing well being fed frozen silversides twice per week. Prior to feeding I soak the feed in Zoecon and garlic extreme. I was considering introducing live feeder minnows sold at a bait and tackle shop. However I am concerned about possibly introducing parasites from the feeder fish and risking that the Eel would stop accepting frozen foods. What do you think?

benjammin03 · 06/27/2017, 07:33 AM

If he's already eating frozen, I don't see the benefit of going back to live food. You are probably already feeding him more nutritious food and keeping with frozen will be easier to get a varied diet. I don't know if you have any other fish, but if you do, teaching him to hunt live fish probably isn't a good idea either.

jt48 · 06/27/2017, 07:41 AM

I thought but was unsure if the live food was more nutritious as several reputable companies claim that to be true but, they never discuss adding supplements to frozen such as garlic and Zoecon. No other fish are with the Eel so probably the only benefit would be the coolness factor. Thanks for your feedback. I will keep with frozen.

Cliving1 · 06/27/2017, 10:48 AM

I believe long term garlic will also harm the eel. Usually garlic is used with lack of appetite, not for every meal.

pinnatus · 06/27/2017, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliving1

I believe long term garlic will also harm the eel. Usually garlic is used with lack of appetite, not for every meal.

Unless the eel is Italian.

carrots · 06/27/2017, 07:46 PM

When I fed my eels frozen silversides or minnows, I would pack it's mouth with a high quality pellet food before feeding it to the eels. Going back to live food makes no sense.

jt48 · 06/27/2017, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pinnatus

Unless the eel is Italian.

Nope. From Sri Lanka. South of India

jt48 · 06/27/2017, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by carrots

When I fed my eels frozen silversides or minnows, I would pack it's mouth with a high quality pellet food before feeding it to the eels. Going back to live food makes no sense.

Interesting. Thanks.

Anthony357 · 06/28/2017, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pinnatus

Unless the eel is Italian.

haha!

Mishri · 06/28/2017, 04:49 PM

frozen foods don't lose nutrients.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...ticle-1.174469

frozen vegetables typically have more nutrients than fresh because they are frozen quickly, while the vegetables you get in stores are already decaying. In just 2 weeks from being freshly harvested green beans lose 45% of their nutrients.

now live vs frozen is going to have slightly more.. but not enough for it to really matter imo.

jalisco · 06/29/2017, 02:28 AM

Over the years we've had several reptiles that would just not breed on a frozen->thawed diet. Fed live and boomchicawow next breeding attempt was successful.

A tank is fairly unstimulating as it is and I beleive eels mucous membranes have evolved to protect them from a diet of less than stellar prey. I'm sure there are internal parasites to be concerned with but my snowflake never caught anything from the hundereds of chromis and damsels he ate over the years. Feeding him live fish never made him look at the bigeye squirrel or triggers any differently but then a snowflake ain't no G. fav..

I'd do it and put the youtube link here.

jalisco · 06/29/2017, 02:30 AM

Also agree on no garlic and packing frozen with pellets is an awesome idea.

benjammin03 · 06/29/2017, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jalisco

Over the years we've had several reptiles that would just not breed on a frozen->thawed diet. Fed live and boomchicawow next breeding attempt was successful.

A tank is fairly unstimulating as it is and I beleive eels mucous membranes have evolved to protect them from a diet of less than stellar prey. I'm sure there are internal parasites to be concerned with but my snowflake never caught anything from the hundereds of chromis and damsels he ate over the years. Feeding him live fish never made him look at the bigeye squirrel or triggers any differently but then a snowflake ain't no G. fav..

I'd do it and put the youtube link here.

I think chromis and damsels are much different than minnows if you are going to live feed. Those would be better nutritionally, but also significantly more expensive.

g-reef · 05/17/2018, 10:39 AM

add more saltwater fish to his diet. octopus squid sardines etc theyn eat pretty much any meat,
i do not believe a steady diet of silversides is healthy in the long run

06/27/2017, 06:37 AM	#1
jt48 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Richboro Pa 18954 Posts: 762	Tesselata I have a 33" Tesselata that is doing well being fed frozen silversides twice per week. Prior to feeding I soak the feed in Zoecon and garlic extreme. I was considering introducing live feeder minnows sold at a bait and tackle shop. However I am concerned about possibly introducing parasites from the feeder fish and risking that the Eel would stop accepting frozen foods. What do you think? __________________ My 900 Gallon System Setup. 75% of 344 DT to 125 to 60 refugium to two 40 breeders to 150 sump. 25% of 344 DT to 135 to a 75 to 150 sump. Filtration includes passive filtration pads, skimmer, ca

06/27/2017, 07:41 AM	#3
jt48 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Richboro Pa 18954 Posts: 762	I thought but was unsure if the live food was more nutritious as several reputable companies claim that to be true but, they never discuss adding supplements to frozen such as garlic and Zoecon. No other fish are with the Eel so probably the only benefit would be the coolness factor. Thanks for your feedback. I will keep with frozen. __________________ My 900 Gallon System Setup. 75% of 344 DT to 125 to 60 refugium to two 40 breeders to 150 sump. 25% of 344 DT to 135 to a 75 to 150 sump. Filtration includes passive filtration pads, skimmer, ca

06/28/2017, 04:49 PM	#10
Mishri Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Great Falls, MT Posts: 1,404	frozen foods don't lose nutrients. http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...ticle-1.174469 frozen vegetables typically have more nutrients than fresh because they are frozen quickly, while the vegetables you get in stores are already decaying. In just 2 weeks from being freshly harvested green beans lose 45% of their nutrients. now live vs frozen is going to have slightly more.. but not enough for it to really matter imo. __________________ 300 gallon 8ft long, 2x xf250 gyre, reef octopus 250-int - work in progress Aquarist since 1986

06/27/2017, 07:33 AM	#2
benjammin03 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: St. Louis Posts: 88	If he's already eating frozen, I don't see the benefit of going back to live food. You are probably already feeding him more nutritious food and keeping with frozen will be easier to get a varied diet. I don't know if you have any other fish, but if you do, teaching him to hunt live fish probably isn't a good idea either.

06/27/2017, 10:48 AM	#4
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	I believe long term garlic will also harm the eel. Usually garlic is used with lack of appetite, not for every meal.

06/27/2017, 07:46 PM	#6
carrots Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Mendham, NJ USA Posts: 395	When I fed my eels frozen silversides or minnows, I would pack it's mouth with a high quality pellet food before feeding it to the eels. Going back to live food makes no sense.

06/29/2017, 02:28 AM	#11
jalisco Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Bay Area, Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 325	Over the years we've had several reptiles that would just not breed on a frozen->thawed diet. Fed live and boomchicawow next breeding attempt was successful. A tank is fairly unstimulating as it is and I beleive eels mucous membranes have evolved to protect them from a diet of less than stellar prey. I'm sure there are internal parasites to be concerned with but my snowflake never caught anything from the hundereds of chromis and damsels he ate over the years. Feeding him live fish never made him look at the bigeye squirrel or triggers any differently but then a snowflake ain't no G. fav.. I'd do it and put the youtube link here.

06/29/2017, 02:30 AM	#12
jalisco Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Bay Area, Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 325	Also agree on no garlic and packing frozen with pellets is an awesome idea.

05/17/2018, 10:39 AM	#14
g-reef Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 6	add more saltwater fish to his diet. octopus squid sardines etc theyn eat pretty much any meat, i do not believe a steady diet of silversides is healthy in the long run