Anemone got sucked into Powerhead

todd57 · 06/17/2011, 10:30 PM

My anemone got sucked into my powerhead for some reason. Will this have an impact on my water and other livestock? A buddy said I need to do a water change asap.

Ben_n_Em · 06/17/2011, 11:06 PM

Yes. From what I've heard, a shredded nem can kill a tank. If you have water mixing now I'd do a water change and start mixing more.

brian762 · 06/17/2011, 11:41 PM

Run some carbon and do the biggest WC you can.

ColaAddict · 06/18/2011, 12:06 AM

Did he get totally shredded? or just got stuck in there?

todd57 · 06/18/2011, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ColaAddict

Did he get totally shredded? or just got stuck in there?

Totally shredded.

ColaAddict · 06/18/2011, 01:59 AM

wow, that is why I'm trying to get rid of all of my BTA's and Sebae, they tend to move around. I'm switching to Haddoni's, which are primarily sand dwellers.
**You do need to do a big water change with carbon and monitor the rest of the livestock. kick up the skimmer, wetter skim would pull more crap out of the water faster I would think.
One of my BTA decided to dislodge and float around, ended up getting stuck in my MP 40, but luckily didn't get shredded up, just kinda got stuck. I think I got to it in time before getting completely sucked in and blendered.

jonnyu · 06/18/2011, 05:34 AM

Well just checked my tank this morning and I had the same problem. RBTA just moved it self into the power head. I have no idea how. What's the % of water change I need to do? Its 110 gallon tank with a 35 gallon Fuge. Is there anyway of keeping this from happening again?

mwilliams62 · 06/18/2011, 09:09 AM

Put a knee high pantyhose over the powerhead and they can't get sucked into them. I had to do that becasue I have one powerhead that is very strong so this was the only way I could slow the flow it had down.

MM WI · 06/18/2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mwilliams62

Put a knee high pantyhose over the powerhead and they can't get sucked into them. I had to do that becasue I have one powerhead that is very strong so this was the only way I could slow the flow it had down.

you did this and the material did not degrade and polute the tank? what are they made of? I would not add an item to the tank that I did not know what it was made of and that it would be stable. Some polymers would be stable and others would not, some will also leach chemicals into the water.

- mark

mwilliams62 · 06/18/2011, 02:20 PM

Regular knee high panty hose brand new. I had several reefers said they too had to do that for that very reason to keep their BTA's from getting suck into them.

J-Burns · 06/18/2011, 04:20 PM

I use a filter sock. FWIW

mwilliams62 · 06/18/2011, 07:25 PM

not a bad idea "filter sock" but how much flow do you get with that on??? At least with panty hose it is thin enough to get good flow but not the over kill flow.

nemoboy1 · 06/18/2011, 08:30 PM

man that sucks... water change is a must... then use filter sock (mesh kind) felt type is way to thick and wouldnt work as well. good luck

ChuckLawson · 06/18/2011, 10:21 PM

Must be going around this week; I had a green "japanese" BTA decide to do the suicide-by-tunze trick night before last. It wasn't terribly big, maybe 5" fully extended, but I was surprised that between filter sock (in the sump, not on a powerhead) and skimmer the tank went from fairly cloudy back to totally clear within 2 hours, and none of the the other livestock in the tank (fish, two other BTAs, LPS and a bit of SPS) seemed to have any ill effects.

MM WI · 06/18/2011, 10:40 PM

this is nuts that so many of us had the same problem the same week. My anemone lived and in a few more weeks you may not be able to tell that he had a good portion of his flesh shreaded but another one in the same tank is still stressed from the water quality problem it created. I have had this happen before with my BTA tank, easier to blow that off as there are so many in there. I put foam blocks over intakes and put a mt dew bottle with quarter inch holes drilled in it over another intake in the BTA tank. The dew bottle incrusted with pink coraline and worked well.

- Mark

Repz · 06/19/2011, 06:34 AM

Can we get a picture of the mountain dew bottle and how you attached it.

jonnyu · 06/20/2011, 09:37 PM

Well did the water change and put some carbon and did not have any losses. I am going to order some mesh filter socks this is a great idea. I like the idea of the bottle but cant use that on my pump.

ChuckLawson · 06/20/2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MM WI

this is nuts that so many of us had the same problem the same week.

In my case it's probably because I had lost my previous pair of ocellaris a few weeks before; BTAs seem to much less inclined to wander (at least for me) if they're hosting clowns. After losing the occies, it gradually started wandering around until it got into trouble.

J-Burns · 06/22/2011, 08:13 PM

The mesh filter sock is what I use. You have to clean it every few days or it will slow down the flow. I like the idea of the pop bottle as I have been thinking of making an over flow out of PVC pipe for my filter.

Reefman1986 · 03/31/2015, 02:09 AM

Just got up this morning sat down with a cup of tea looked at the tanks nothing moving, got up for a closer look everything dead £420 worth of fish. I just couldn't work out why? Looked at the power head and my magnificent anemone had been sucked in and shredded in the night devastated isn't the word. I feel soul destroyed after all the hard work I've put in.

Breadman03 · 03/31/2015, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Reefman1986

Just got up this morning sat down with a cup of tea looked at the tanks nothing moving, got up for a closer look everything dead £420 worth of fish. I just couldn't work out why? Looked at the power head and my magnificent anemone had been sucked in and shredded in the night devastated isn't the word. I feel soul destroyed after all the hard work I've put in.

Been there. That is why I'm going to be plumbing in a closed loop system for a species tank for my S. gigantea and my A. percula clowns. My wife can have the pretty fish upstairs and my anemone will be downstairs.

ThRoewer · 04/01/2015, 02:06 AM

My BTA got shredded by a powerhead as well - right the night I left my skimmer off. That morning the water was clowdy but otherwise I got lucky and nothing (besides the BTA) died.
After that I removed my crispa because it started moving into the direction of the powerheads as well and was in need of treatment anyway.

OrionN · 04/01/2015, 08:42 AM

Puree BTA usually do not cause fish death. Other anemones, like Magnifica, will wipe out our tank except clown fish if it get puree. There are plenty of thread on Magnifica wipe out a tank.
Other anemones like Gigantea or Haddoni likely will wipe out your tank too. FWIW, none of this happen to me yet so no first hand experience here.

Nanook · 09/02/2018, 07:22 AM

Lost 40 plus fish this morning when one of my three Ritteri got sucyinti my Tunze

Wondering if sps will die too???

Lost some 15 year old fish

Cliving1 · 09/02/2018, 07:27 AM

That is terrible to hear. Sorry for your loss. I would do a water change and start running carbon if your not already.

06/17/2011, 10:30 PM	#1
todd57 Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Perryville, MD Posts: 16	Anemone got sucked into Powerhead My anemone got sucked into my powerhead for some reason. Will this have an impact on my water and other livestock? A buddy said I need to do a water change asap. __________________ Current Tank Info: 180g Reef Tank, Nova Extreme Pro 48" T5 6x54W, 100g Sump, ETSS Reef Devil Skimmer

03/31/2015, 02:09 AM	#20
Reefman1986 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 1	Shredded Just got up this morning sat down with a cup of tea looked at the tanks nothing moving, got up for a closer look everything dead £420 worth of fish. I just couldn't work out why? Looked at the power head and my magnificent anemone had been sucked in and shredded in the night devastated isn't the word. I feel soul destroyed after all the hard work I've put in.

04/01/2015, 02:06 AM	#22
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	My BTA got shredded by a powerhead as well - right the night I left my skimmer off. That morning the water was clowdy but otherwise I got lucky and nothing (besides the BTA) died. After that I removed my crispa because it started moving into the direction of the powerheads as well and was in need of treatment anyway. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/01/2015, 08:42 AM	#23
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	Puree BTA usually do not cause fish death. Other anemones, like Magnifica, will wipe out our tank except clown fish if it get puree. There are plenty of thread on Magnifica wipe out a tank. Other anemones like Gigantea or Haddoni likely will wipe out your tank too. FWIW, none of this happen to me yet so no first hand experience here. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

09/02/2018, 07:22 AM	#24
Nanook Ancient Eskimo Legend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 41,852 Blog Entries: 11	Lost 40 plus fish this morning when one of my three Ritteri got sucyinti my Tunze Wondering if sps will die too??? Lost some 15 year old fish __________________ The wind blew, the chit flew, and then they came two by two. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Current Tank Info: 375g Tanganyikan Tank & 470g mixed reef

06/17/2011, 11:06 PM	#2
Ben_n_Em Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 76	Yes. From what I've heard, a shredded nem can kill a tank. If you have water mixing now I'd do a water change and start mixing more.

06/17/2011, 11:41 PM	#3
brian762 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 654	Run some carbon and do the biggest WC you can.

06/18/2011, 12:06 AM	#4
ColaAddict Moved On Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northbrook Posts: 370	Did he get totally shredded? or just got stuck in there?

06/18/2011, 01:59 AM	#6
ColaAddict Moved On Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northbrook Posts: 370	wow, that is why I'm trying to get rid of all of my BTA's and Sebae, they tend to move around. I'm switching to Haddoni's, which are primarily sand dwellers. **You do need to do a big water change with carbon and monitor the rest of the livestock. kick up the skimmer, wetter skim would pull more crap out of the water faster I would think. One of my BTA decided to dislodge and float around, ended up getting stuck in my MP 40, but luckily didn't get shredded up, just kinda got stuck. I think I got to it in time before getting completely sucked in and blendered.

06/18/2011, 05:34 AM	#7
jonnyu Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2,038	Well just checked my tank this morning and I had the same problem. RBTA just moved it self into the power head. I have no idea how. What's the % of water change I need to do? Its 110 gallon tank with a 35 gallon Fuge. Is there anyway of keeping this from happening again?

06/18/2011, 09:09 AM	#8
mwilliams62 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,056	Put a knee high pantyhose over the powerhead and they can't get sucked into them. I had to do that becasue I have one powerhead that is very strong so this was the only way I could slow the flow it had down.

06/18/2011, 02:20 PM	#10
mwilliams62 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,056	Regular knee high panty hose brand new. I had several reefers said they too had to do that for that very reason to keep their BTA's from getting suck into them.

06/18/2011, 04:20 PM	#11
J-Burns Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 235	I use a filter sock. FWIW

06/18/2011, 07:25 PM	#12
mwilliams62 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,056	not a bad idea "filter sock" but how much flow do you get with that on??? At least with panty hose it is thin enough to get good flow but not the over kill flow.

06/18/2011, 08:30 PM	#13
nemoboy1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 428	man that sucks... water change is a must... then use filter sock (mesh kind) felt type is way to thick and wouldnt work as well. good luck

06/18/2011, 10:21 PM	#14
ChuckLawson Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 383	Must be going around this week; I had a green "japanese" BTA decide to do the suicide-by-tunze trick night before last. It wasn't terribly big, maybe 5" fully extended, but I was surprised that between filter sock (in the sump, not on a powerhead) and skimmer the tank went from fairly cloudy back to totally clear within 2 hours, and none of the the other livestock in the tank (fish, two other BTAs, LPS and a bit of SPS) seemed to have any ill effects.

06/18/2011, 10:40 PM	#15
MM WI Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mazomanie, WI Posts: 326	this is nuts that so many of us had the same problem the same week. My anemone lived and in a few more weeks you may not be able to tell that he had a good portion of his flesh shreaded but another one in the same tank is still stressed from the water quality problem it created. I have had this happen before with my BTA tank, easier to blow that off as there are so many in there. I put foam blocks over intakes and put a mt dew bottle with quarter inch holes drilled in it over another intake in the BTA tank. The dew bottle incrusted with pink coraline and worked well. - Mark

06/19/2011, 06:34 AM	#16
Repz Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 46	Can we get a picture of the mountain dew bottle and how you attached it.

06/20/2011, 09:37 PM	#17
jonnyu Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2,038	Well did the water change and put some carbon and did not have any losses. I am going to order some mesh filter socks this is a great idea. I like the idea of the bottle but cant use that on my pump.

06/22/2011, 08:13 PM	#19
J-Burns Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 235	The mesh filter sock is what I use. You have to clean it every few days or it will slow down the flow. I like the idea of the pop bottle as I have been thinking of making an over flow out of PVC pipe for my filter.

09/02/2018, 07:27 AM	#25
Cliving1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 1,923	That is terrible to hear. Sorry for your loss. I would do a water change and start running carbon if your not already.

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