Regal Angel Primer - Page 121

szwab · 04/17/2012, 01:42 PM

While I'm posting here's an update on my 2 regals. Both have gone on to better homes. It was hard decision to make. I was ok with not keeping softies and zoanthids. Even ok with the occasional nip at LPS. The scale was tipped when the yellow belly decided to add SPS to the menu, I'm not talking the occasional nip either. Got the gray belly first in June of 08 and the other roughly 3 months later. Both were fat and healthy when they found new homes. Pics were taken just before they left. Pics don't show it but the yellow belly was significantly larger than the grey

crobattt · 04/17/2012, 04:40 PM

I'M SO HAPPY

,

My regal is eating shrimp and clams within 24 hours of being in the tank

the only thing i've seen wrong so far is that he likes the taste of GSP, but who cares

!?

djkms · 04/30/2012, 11:48 AM

I picked up a Red Sea Regal from a local vendor here in Colorado on Friday. It is pretty big and has a lot of girth. I have it in QT right now and is currently in a Prazipro bath. I did notice some spots on him:

So after the prazi treatment should I do cupramine or hyposalinity? What are your experiences with either treatment?

He is eating, kinda. I am feeding him PE Mysis soaked in garlic. He doesnt eat it right away but after it settles to the bottom he does eventually swim around and pick at the bottom of the tank.

I hope he survives, its a beautiful fish!!

SDguy · 04/30/2012, 11:57 AM

That there is the EXACT same looking stuff that came in on a regal angel I tried a while back. And I'm pretty sure it's what took out my male genicanthus later on...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=10

alton · 04/30/2012, 12:05 PM

I acclimate my angels to the water in my QT tank then I place my angels in freshwater with an airstone for 20 minutes before going into my QT tank. I know it sounds bad but I have not lost one yet. Mine is 3 to 4" that I got from NY Aquatic and eating like a champ in my 40 gal breeder QT tank. It is also not your normal QT tank, it contains SPS and softy corals which can be removed very quickly if something goes wrong and I need to medicate.

djkms · 04/30/2012, 12:29 PM

Thanks Peter. I posted the picture in the fish disease and treatment section and they feel its ich there. I am not convinced to be honest. I have a buddy who runs a aquarium maintenance business and I see fish shipments all the time. The fish that come in with ich have a much more uniform in size "white spot" and the spots tend to cluster together in areas and that area has a hazy look to it. The spots on this regal appear to be much bigger than ich spots IMO. Ich to me literally looks like salt on the fish.

MarineOne · 05/09/2012, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkms

I picked up a Red Sea Regal from a local vendor here in Colorado on Friday. It is pretty big and has a lot of girth. I have it in QT right now and is currently in a Prazipro bath. I did notice some spots on him:

So after the prazi treatment should I do cupramine or hyposalinity? What are your experiences with either treatment?

He is eating, kinda. I am feeding him PE Mysis soaked in garlic. He doesnt eat it right away but after it settles to the bottom he does eventually swim around and pick at the bottom of the tank.

I hope he survives, its a beautiful fish!!

Good luck!

That is one beautiful Regal!

djkms · 05/09/2012, 12:01 PM

Thanks, he passed away this last Sunday

MarineOne · 05/09/2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkms

Thanks, he passed away this last Sunday

Awww

Any idea the reason?

Eating?

Chemicals/meds?

Can't you do Prazi and Hypo at the same time?

djkms · 05/10/2012, 09:31 AM

He never really ate. I tried PE Mysis, Rods, Clam on a half shell and pellets. He did make it through 5 days of Prazi and was on day 3 of antibiotics. I did have a buddy of mine who owns a aquarium maintenance company come over and look at the fish. He was certain it was not ich. He did say he has seen angels come in with similar patches over their eyes and the angel never makes it.

Looking back I probably should have waited to treat with Prazi until he was eating good but with visible signs of disease I wanted to treat right away.

Beautiful fish, I just wish I could keep one alive. I kept a Moorish Idol for a year and a half before he started mowing down my reef yet I really struggle with this angel

knight2255 · 05/10/2012, 10:18 AM

Are the red sea regal's the ones with the red anal fin? If so, where is a reputable place online to buy one?

MarineOne · 05/10/2012, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight2255

Are the red sea regal's the ones with the red anal fin? If so, where is a reputable place online to buy one?

The Red Sea Regal is the most beautiful Regal...

It seems that no matter what the species of fish, if it is available from the Red Sea it is the most beautiful of that species...

gofor100 · 06/04/2012, 03:08 PM

Just took the plunge over the weekend...

Here's my new 4 to 4 1/2" Regal (looks to be a grey/blue chested one)...

Got him Saturday morning, and placed him into my 60 gallon QT (along with a few other small fish I got the same day). That afternoon, he was already eating a frozen concoction I make for my Moorish Idol (mixture of raw scallops, shrimp, clams, mysis, vitamin enriched brine, Marine Angel (first ingredient is sponge), Rod's Food, and some other pre-made frozen items... mixed in with Selcon and minced fresh garlic). Also saw him eat up a few pellets (I feed a mixture of Formula 1 & 2, and NLS), but nothing consistent yet with those. Clipped some Nori in there as well, and he ripped that apart (not sure how much he actually ate, but there was a good amount floating around in the current).

My plan is to treat him in my 60 gallon QT with Cupramine (I'll slowly add this over a full week after he has already been eating consistently for a couple of days), then treat him with Prazipro in the last week (or if flukes are noticed beforehand, earlier).

Wish me luck!

-Chad

Tracey2 · 06/04/2012, 03:59 PM

Good luck, he's beautiful.

gofor100 · 06/04/2012, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracey2

Good luck, he's beautiful.

Thanks Tracey! I'll try to keep everyone up-to-date on the progress.

-Chad

ReefEnc · 06/04/2012, 10:28 PM

Definately one of the most beautiful of angels. The Regals from Bali are a lot more hardy than the Regals from the Red Sea, so if he's eating already, I'd say he will do great. Please keep us updated..
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Inklinkerman · 06/05/2012, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReefEnc

Definately one of the most beautiful of angels. The Regals from Bali are a lot more hardy than the Regals from the Red Sea, so if he's eating already, I'd say he will do great. Please keep us updated..
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

That's news to me. Id go for an Indian ocean / red sea yellow belly everytime.

I have a Maldives regal and its been very hardy for over a year now.

gofor100 · 06/05/2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inklinkerman

That's news to me. Id go for an Indian ocean / red sea yellow belly everytime.

I have a Maldives regal and its been very hardy for over a year now.

I think it might depend on where you're purchasing... but having said that, I think collecting practices with these fish are getting a little better and they are coming in a little better shape.

-Chad

Inklinkerman · 06/05/2012, 10:33 AM

I've definitely seen an increase in success stories wityh the blue bellies recently which must show some improvement in collection practices or the opening up of new areas.

I remember Bob Fenner writing that 99.999% of blue bellies don't live a year, think that should be updated now... but would still personally go for a yellow belly, if only based on looks alone.

agreeive?fish · 06/11/2012, 05:24 PM

in month 19 of a grey belly regal owning me

it showed me in the lfs what it wanted to eat (nori and mysis)

ate ist day in my tank (nori)

took several days or weeks to eat mysis and other foods

a pig out on any food fish at present

slow growers compared to the majority of its tank mates(gets as much or more food as anybody in tank and grazes on rocks and constant supply of nori as well)

would love to "pair" it with a yellow belly

chris_an_amy · 06/12/2012, 01:59 AM

Can anyone help me?? I just got a Regal Angel he looks pretty healthy. My concern is getting him to eat ocean nutrition angel formula. He has been grazing on live algae and little neck clams. I spotted him nipping at the food I want to get him on but not much more.
Surprisingly today he took a solid bite out of the angel formula cube I tried everything under the sun and the one thing I didn't was hand feed, and it worked. He ate one bite but that was it.
What I'm gonna try to do next is designate a spot at the top of the tank by clipping a little dish on the glass with his food in it . Lol, maybe if it works I'll put his name on it, like a doggy dish...
The Regal's origin is Eastern Asia (grey belly), size 4 in,
Anymore ideas or suggestions, tips , secrets, ect.would be greatly appreciated thanks!

ryanrid · 06/12/2012, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_an_amy

Can anyone help me?? I just got a Regal Angel he looks pretty healthy. My concern is getting him to eat ocean nutrition angel formula. He has been grazing on live algae and little neck clams. I spotted him nipping at the food I want to get him on but not much more.
Surprisingly today he took a solid bite out of the angel formula cube I tried everything under the sun and the one thing I didn't was hand feed, and it worked. He ate one bite but that was it.
What I'm gonna try to do next is designate a spot at the top of the tank by clipping a little dish on the glass with his food in it . Lol, maybe if it works I'll put his name on it, like a doggy dish...
The Regal's origin is Eastern Asia (grey belly), size 4 in,
Anymore ideas or suggestions, tips , secrets, ect.would be greatly appreciated thanks!

If it is pecking at LR your are right for a while, try not to stress it too much by putting your hand in. Just relax calm down and feed without stressing it too much and you should be right.

szwab · 06/12/2012, 06:20 AM

try ataching the food to rock. One thing I noticed with mine was they seemed to have to learn or get used to the idea of eating out of the water column. Above all patience is key as mentioned.

Dr Colliebreath · 06/12/2012, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_an_amy

Can anyone help me?? I just got a Regal Angel he looks pretty healthy. My concern is getting him to eat ocean nutrition angel formula. He has been grazing on live algae and little neck clams. I spotted him nipping at the food I want to get him on but not much more.
Surprisingly today he took a solid bite out of the angel formula cube I tried everything under the sun and the one thing I didn't was hand feed, and it worked. He ate one bite but that was it.
What I'm gonna try to do next is designate a spot at the top of the tank by clipping a little dish on the glass with his food in it . Lol, maybe if it works I'll put his name on it, like a doggy dish...
The Regal's origin is Eastern Asia (grey belly), size 4 in,
Anymore ideas or suggestions, tips , secrets, ect.would be greatly appreciated thanks!

Get it eating mysis and other meaty seafood, plus nori and spirulina foods. Worry about the angel formula over time. It may never eat a lot of the angel formula.

chris_an_amy · 06/12/2012, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the suggestions so far. Boy he sure is picky... I was contemplating on giving him a fresh water dip then putting him back in the QT. I don't want to stress him out but he does have some sort of gunk behind his left fin and a tiny spot on his left gill too. Should I or should I wait till he is eating more? He seems to wanna graze more when I block his view of the main display tank. I just threw some mysis in that I soaked in garlic, so we'll see how that goes. He eats the seaweed when its floating around at the top of the tank but not when I use the clip... weird i tell ya.
I am keeping him in the QT till he is comfortable eating what I give him and he's gotta be eating good too. All my fishes are pigs so he with starve if he isn't on the ball when it comes time for feeding.

This fish does require patience I agree entirely. He seems to be having just as hard of a time trying to figure me out as I do him... Hopefully with much patience and lot's of effort we will get on the same page soon enough.

04/17/2012, 01:42 PM	#3001
szwab RC Mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 15,225	While I'm posting here's an update on my 2 regals. Both have gone on to better homes. It was hard decision to make. I was ok with not keeping softies and zoanthids. Even ok with the occasional nip at LPS. The scale was tipped when the yellow belly decided to add SPS to the menu, I'm not talking the occasional nip either. Got the gray belly first in June of 08 and the other roughly 3 months later. Both were fat and healthy when they found new homes. Pics were taken just before they left. Pics don't show it but the yellow belly was significantly larger than the grey __________________ Mark "I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell" ~ Christopher Walken Current Tank Info: AGE 240 Flatback Hex

04/17/2012, 04:40 PM	#3002
crobattt Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 786	I'M SO HAPPY , My regal is eating shrimp and clams within 24 hours of being in the tank the only thing i've seen wrong so far is that he likes the taste of GSP, but who cares !? __________________ Phil 4:13: I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

04/30/2012, 11:48 AM	#3003
djkms Fish Freak Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 1,136	I picked up a Red Sea Regal from a local vendor here in Colorado on Friday. It is pretty big and has a lot of girth. I have it in QT right now and is currently in a Prazipro bath. I did notice some spots on him: So after the prazi treatment should I do cupramine or hyposalinity? What are your experiences with either treatment? He is eating, kinda. I am feeding him PE Mysis soaked in garlic. He doesnt eat it right away but after it settles to the bottom he does eventually swim around and pick at the bottom of the tank. I hope he survives, its a beautiful fish!! __________________ Kris - 200 Gallon Baby Reef Current Tank Info: 225 Upgrade Setup 11/17/2012 72x27x27 - Custom 40g sump/Diablo DCS-250int skimmer/Blueline HD40x/2 MP40's/Tunze ATO/2 Part/BRS RODI/ Neptune apex, WXM/3 Radium 250w Galaxy Ballast/8 39w T5's/Litermeter III/Aquavitro Salinity/20%WC/Carbon/GFO/Vinegar Last edited by Dino; 03/30/2018 at 05:53 AM.

04/30/2012, 11:57 AM	#3004
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	That there is the EXACT same looking stuff that came in on a regal angel I tried a while back. And I'm pretty sure it's what took out my male genicanthus later on... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=10 __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

04/30/2012, 12:29 PM	#3006
djkms Fish Freak Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 1,136	Thanks Peter. I posted the picture in the fish disease and treatment section and they feel its ich there. I am not convinced to be honest. I have a buddy who runs a aquarium maintenance business and I see fish shipments all the time. The fish that come in with ich have a much more uniform in size "white spot" and the spots tend to cluster together in areas and that area has a hazy look to it. The spots on this regal appear to be much bigger than ich spots IMO. Ich to me literally looks like salt on the fish. __________________ Kris - 200 Gallon Baby Reef Current Tank Info: 225 Upgrade Setup 11/17/2012 72x27x27 - Custom 40g sump/Diablo DCS-250int skimmer/Blueline HD40x/2 MP40's/Tunze ATO/2 Part/BRS RODI/ Neptune apex, WXM/3 Radium 250w Galaxy Ballast/8 39w T5's/Litermeter III/Aquavitro Salinity/20%WC/Carbon/GFO/Vinegar

04/30/2012, 12:05 PM	#3005
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	I acclimate my angels to the water in my QT tank then I place my angels in freshwater with an airstone for 20 minutes before going into my QT tank. I know it sounds bad but I have not lost one yet. Mine is 3 to 4" that I got from NY Aquatic and eating like a champ in my 40 gal breeder QT tank. It is also not your normal QT tank, it contains SPS and softy corals which can be removed very quickly if something goes wrong and I need to medicate.

05/09/2012, 12:01 PM	#3008
djkms Fish Freak Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 1,136	Thanks, he passed away this last Sunday __________________ Kris - 200 Gallon Baby Reef Current Tank Info: 225 Upgrade Setup 11/17/2012 72x27x27 - Custom 40g sump/Diablo DCS-250int skimmer/Blueline HD40x/2 MP40's/Tunze ATO/2 Part/BRS RODI/ Neptune apex, WXM/3 Radium 250w Galaxy Ballast/8 39w T5's/Litermeter III/Aquavitro Salinity/20%WC/Carbon/GFO/Vinegar

05/10/2012, 09:31 AM	#3010
djkms Fish Freak Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 1,136	He never really ate. I tried PE Mysis, Rods, Clam on a half shell and pellets. He did make it through 5 days of Prazi and was on day 3 of antibiotics. I did have a buddy of mine who owns a aquarium maintenance company come over and look at the fish. He was certain it was not ich. He did say he has seen angels come in with similar patches over their eyes and the angel never makes it. Looking back I probably should have waited to treat with Prazi until he was eating good but with visible signs of disease I wanted to treat right away. Beautiful fish, I just wish I could keep one alive. I kept a Moorish Idol for a year and a half before he started mowing down my reef yet I really struggle with this angel __________________ Kris - 200 Gallon Baby Reef Current Tank Info: 225 Upgrade Setup 11/17/2012 72x27x27 - Custom 40g sump/Diablo DCS-250int skimmer/Blueline HD40x/2 MP40's/Tunze ATO/2 Part/BRS RODI/ Neptune apex, WXM/3 Radium 250w Galaxy Ballast/8 39w T5's/Litermeter III/Aquavitro Salinity/20%WC/Carbon/GFO/Vinegar

05/10/2012, 10:18 AM	#3011
knight2255 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 313	Are the red sea regal's the ones with the red anal fin? If so, where is a reputable place online to buy one?

06/04/2012, 03:08 PM	#3013
gofor100 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,225	Just took the plunge over the weekend... Here's my new 4 to 4 1/2" Regal (looks to be a grey/blue chested one)... Got him Saturday morning, and placed him into my 60 gallon QT (along with a few other small fish I got the same day). That afternoon, he was already eating a frozen concoction I make for my Moorish Idol (mixture of raw scallops, shrimp, clams, mysis, vitamin enriched brine, Marine Angel (first ingredient is sponge), Rod's Food, and some other pre-made frozen items... mixed in with Selcon and minced fresh garlic). Also saw him eat up a few pellets (I feed a mixture of Formula 1 & 2, and NLS), but nothing consistent yet with those. Clipped some Nori in there as well, and he ripped that apart (not sure how much he actually ate, but there was a good amount floating around in the current). My plan is to treat him in my 60 gallon QT with Cupramine (I'll slowly add this over a full week after he has already been eating consistently for a couple of days), then treat him with Prazipro in the last week (or if flukes are noticed beforehand, earlier). Wish me luck! -Chad __________________ "FISH ARE FRIENDS, NOT FOOD" Current Tank Info: Tank Build in Progress Last edited by Dino; 03/30/2018 at 05:53 AM.

06/04/2012, 03:59 PM	#3014
Tracey2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 860	Good luck, he's beautiful.

06/04/2012, 10:28 PM	#3016
ReefEnc Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 35	Definately one of the most beautiful of angels. The Regals from Bali are a lot more hardy than the Regals from the Red Sea, so if he's eating already, I'd say he will do great. Please keep us updated.. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2 __________________ The more I know, the more I realize how much more I have to learn!

06/05/2012, 10:33 AM	#3019
Inklinkerman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: UK Posts: 306	I've definitely seen an increase in success stories wityh the blue bellies recently which must show some improvement in collection practices or the opening up of new areas. I remember Bob Fenner writing that 99.999% of blue bellies don't live a year, think that should be updated now... but would still personally go for a yellow belly, if only based on looks alone.

06/11/2012, 05:24 PM	#3020
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	in month 19 of a grey belly regal owning me it showed me in the lfs what it wanted to eat (nori and mysis) ate ist day in my tank (nori) took several days or weeks to eat mysis and other foods a pig out on any food fish at present slow growers compared to the majority of its tank mates(gets as much or more food as anybody in tank and grazes on rocks and constant supply of nori as well) would love to "pair" it with a yellow belly

06/12/2012, 01:59 AM	#3021
chris_an_amy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4	Can anyone help me?? I just got a Regal Angel he looks pretty healthy. My concern is getting him to eat ocean nutrition angel formula. He has been grazing on live algae and little neck clams. I spotted him nipping at the food I want to get him on but not much more. Surprisingly today he took a solid bite out of the angel formula cube I tried everything under the sun and the one thing I didn't was hand feed, and it worked. He ate one bite but that was it. What I'm gonna try to do next is designate a spot at the top of the tank by clipping a little dish on the glass with his food in it . Lol, maybe if it works I'll put his name on it, like a doggy dish... The Regal's origin is Eastern Asia (grey belly), size 4 in, Anymore ideas or suggestions, tips , secrets, ect.would be greatly appreciated thanks!

06/12/2012, 06:20 AM	#3023
szwab RC Mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 15,225	try ataching the food to rock. One thing I noticed with mine was they seemed to have to learn or get used to the idea of eating out of the water column. Above all patience is key as mentioned. __________________ Mark "I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell" ~ Christopher Walken Current Tank Info: AGE 240 Flatback Hex

06/12/2012, 03:33 PM	#3025
chris_an_amy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4	Thanks for the suggestions so far. Boy he sure is picky... I was contemplating on giving him a fresh water dip then putting him back in the QT. I don't want to stress him out but he does have some sort of gunk behind his left fin and a tiny spot on his left gill too. Should I or should I wait till he is eating more? He seems to wanna graze more when I block his view of the main display tank. I just threw some mysis in that I soaked in garlic, so we'll see how that goes. He eats the seaweed when its floating around at the top of the tank but not when I use the clip... weird i tell ya. I am keeping him in the QT till he is comfortable eating what I give him and he's gotta be eating good too. All my fishes are pigs so he with starve if he isn't on the ball when it comes time for feeding. This fish does require patience I agree entirely. He seems to be having just as hard of a time trying to figure me out as I do him... Hopefully with much patience and lot's of effort we will get on the same page soon enough.