ARID E18 reactor (Phosphate Control!!!) - Page 3

moondoggy4 · 09/23/2015, 08:43 PM

Hose blew , you tried Eheim tubing? Works real good and last for decades.

JB NY · 09/24/2015, 07:56 AM

So my reactor is still going. My chaeto growth has slowed dramatically, about 1/3 of what it used to be. I think the excess nutrients have been removed from the tank and now it is just pulling out what ever excessive amounts I get on a daily basis.

My levels from the other day are NO3 5ppm, PO4 0.02ppm. I still dose about .5ppm daily of KNO3 to keep levels where they are.

My tank was rebooted less than 10 months ago, so there is not much large corals in the tank but lots of SPS frags and smaller LPS that are all doing fine. Still no algae in the display tank. These are pictures from a week or two ago.

mr9iron · 09/24/2015, 09:56 AM

Very interesting to say the least. This is definitely something I should consider for the 230 i am building. Lets keep the updates coming. Oh, JBNY, great looking tank.

moondoggy4 · 09/24/2015, 07:19 PM

I love the rock scape JB NY Do you have to clean the glass often?

JB NY · 09/25/2015, 07:12 AM

Thanks, I tried to make the rock work as open as possible for the fish to swim.

I clean the glass every 4-5 days

trueperc · 09/25/2015, 09:49 AM

This seems to be a great little device. I really like the idea of using cheato. I have been looking for a good way to stop the carbon dosing but the idea of setting up a refug on my tank is almost out of the question due to the size of refug I would need for my 300 gallon. Thanks for sharing your results.

JB NY · 09/25/2015, 10:03 AM

I stopped carbon dosing and using GFO in Dec 2014.

Tarawa · 09/26/2015, 09:36 AM

This is genius.I had never even considered running cheato thru a reactor like that. I have a transparent unused nextreef reactor that could be modified to do this, except lights on the outside, and wouldnt look anywhere near as cool.

Sinekal · 09/26/2015, 11:38 AM

Do you get any cyano inside the reactor or is the flow through sufficient to ensure it doesn't occur. My refugium does a great job of keeping nitrates and phosphates in check but I can't ever seem to create enough flow in it to keep the cyano in check.

rq786 · 09/27/2015, 04:17 PM

I am trying to convert simple reactor for this method
What color leds would work for it

vmvm60 · 09/27/2015, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rq786

I am trying to convert simple reactor for this method
What color leds would work for it

I'm also interested in DIY-ing something similar. However, I think the most difficult part will be the LED cooling... I could not find anywhere(ebay, Chinese online) such a metal rod and heatsink...

OllieNZ · 09/27/2015, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmvm60

I'm also interested in DIY-ing something similar. However, I think the most difficult part will be the LED cooling... I could not find anywhere(ebay, Chinese online) such a metal rod and heatsink...

it appears to be a copper pipe with a heat sink mounted on one end, should be fairly simple to diy.

rq786 · 09/28/2015, 02:22 PM

Can you use rc car engine head

JB NY · 09/28/2015, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinekal

Do you get any cyano inside the reactor or is the flow through sufficient to ensure it doesn't occur. My refugium does a great job of keeping nitrates and phosphates in check but I can't ever seem to create enough flow in it to keep the cyano in check.

I do have cyano in my reactor. It is the only place I have cyano in my whole system so I am fine with it being there.

trueperc · 09/29/2015, 06:51 AM

I am wondering on the sizing they use. JB NY, you were saying you are not getting the same growth as before and I am wondering would you have been better to go with a smaller unit? My thoughts are similar to those ATS, the people running them and who built them found bigger was always not better and there was for sure size issue. There was a great reduction in size recommendations from when it first started. The reason I am asking, is I have already contacted the company and really like this idea, but I stumbled across some board and people where have issues with getting good growth. The model they suggested was the E or C 24, but my thoughts is accually the E or C 18 as from my understanding standing is only a 6 inch height difference. I would rather trim more often than have an issue with growth. What do you think? If you where to do it again would you stay the same size or go the smaller unit?

OllieNZ · 09/29/2015, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB NY

I do have cyano in my reactor. It is the only place I have cyano in my whole system so I am fine with it being there.

I wonder if this is indicative of nitrate deficiency? In a planted fw tank cyano is often a symptom of nitrate deficiency and the addition of kno3 will cause it to recede fairly rapidly. I'm aware that sw systems are different but would be interested to see whether dosing an inorganic source of nitrate in a controlled and calculated manner would boost the cheato growth and cause the disappearance of the cyano.

trueperc · 09/29/2015, 08:21 AM

I believe they actually provide you with some nitrate solution when you buy it.

JB NY · 09/29/2015, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueperc

I am wondering on the sizing they use. JB NY, you were saying you are not getting the same growth as before and I am wondering would you have been better to go with a smaller unit? My thoughts are similar to those ATS, the people running them and who built them found bigger was always not better and there was for sure size issue. There was a great reduction in size recommendations from when it first started. The reason I am asking, is I have already contacted the company and really like this idea, but I stumbled across some board and people where have issues with getting good growth. The model they suggested was the E or C 24, but my thoughts is accually the E or C 18 as from my understanding standing is only a 6 inch height difference. I would rather trim more often than have an issue with growth. What do you think? If you where to do it again would you stay the same size or go the smaller unit?

I'm not sure, I don't know how oversizing it would really give me anything other than more room in the reactor. One thing I have been doing that they do not recommend is running ozone. I have run ozone on my tanks I I didn't want to stop using it. Tristan at Pax thinks that is absolutely can adversely affect macro growth, so I shut it off 4 days ago to see if it helps when the Chaeto growth. FWIW other than not having strong growth anymore, I am not suffering from any issues, nutrient or algae in my system. It's been pretty rock steady for months now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OllieNZ

I wonder if this is indicative of nitrate deficiency? In a planted fw tank cyano is often a symptom of nitrate deficiency and the addition of kno3 will cause it to recede fairly rapidly. I'm aware that sw systems are different but would be interested to see whether dosing an inorganic source of nitrate in a controlled and calculated manner would boost the cheato growth and cause the disappearance of the cyano.

I do dose KN03 daily I have been for a good 6-7 months.

OllieNZ · 09/29/2015, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB NY

I'm not sure, I don't know how oversizing it would really give me anything other than more room in the reactor. One thing I have been doing that they do not recommend is running ozone. I have run ozone on my tanks I I didn't want to stop using it. Tristan at Pax thinks that is absolutely can adversely affect macro growth, so I shut it off 4 days ago to see if it helps when the Chaeto growth. FWIW other than not having strong growth anymore, I am not suffering from any issues, nutrient or algae in my system. It's been pretty rock steady for months now.

I do dose KN03 daily I have been for a good 6-7 months.

How much are you dosing? (Just interested)

JB NY · 09/29/2015, 08:55 AM

enough to raise the system .5ppm a day.

OllieNZ · 09/29/2015, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB NY

enough to raise the system .5ppm a day.

Is that depleted daily? Or do you maintain a consistent figure?

JB NY · 09/29/2015, 09:46 AM

I maintain it at 5ppm, I started with an almost zero reading and raised 1ppm a day until I had about 5-7ppm then dropped back to the dose I have now. It keeps my NO3 at 5ppm.

OllieNZ · 09/29/2015, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB NY

I maintain it at 5ppm, I started with an almost zero reading and raised 1ppm a day until I had about 5-7ppm then dropped back to the dose I have now. It keeps my NO3 at 5ppm.

Thanks for the info

SantaMonica · 09/30/2015, 12:04 PM

Quote:

I don't know how oversizing it would really give me anything other than more room in the reactor

One thing it could do is cause flow to route around the growth. Or, if the lights are the same, then a larger size could allow the growth to get farther away from the light.

clorox · 10/13/2015, 10:42 AM

Ok, how do I buy one of these? Pax bellum's site is under construction. I sent them an email a week ago but no answer.

09/24/2015, 07:56 AM	#52
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	So my reactor is still going. My chaeto growth has slowed dramatically, about 1/3 of what it used to be. I think the excess nutrients have been removed from the tank and now it is just pulling out what ever excessive amounts I get on a daily basis. My levels from the other day are NO3 5ppm, PO4 0.02ppm. I still dose about .5ppm daily of KNO3 to keep levels where they are. My tank was rebooted less than 10 months ago, so there is not much large corals in the tank but lots of SPS frags and smaller LPS that are all doing fine. Still no algae in the display tank. These are pictures from a week or two ago. __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/24/2015, 09:56 AM	#53
mr9iron 15& Over Club Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,552 Blog Entries: 1	Very interesting to say the least. This is definitely something I should consider for the 230 i am building. Lets keep the updates coming. Oh, JBNY, great looking tank. __________________ Vince ______________________________ Current Tank Info: Frag tank at the moment, planning another

09/25/2015, 07:12 AM	#55
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	Thanks, I tried to make the rock work as open as possible for the fish to swim. I clean the glass every 4-5 days __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/25/2015, 10:03 AM	#57
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	I stopped carbon dosing and using GFO in Dec 2014. __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/29/2015, 08:55 AM	#70
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	enough to raise the system .5ppm a day. __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/23/2015, 08:43 PM	#51
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	Hose blew , you tried Eheim tubing? Works real good and last for decades.

09/24/2015, 07:19 PM	#54
moondoggy4 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: menifee So cal Posts: 11,042	I love the rock scape JB NY Do you have to clean the glass often?

09/25/2015, 09:49 AM	#56
trueperc Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa, On, Canada Posts: 788	This seems to be a great little device. I really like the idea of using cheato. I have been looking for a good way to stop the carbon dosing but the idea of setting up a refug on my tank is almost out of the question due to the size of refug I would need for my 300 gallon. Thanks for sharing your results.

09/26/2015, 09:36 AM	#58
Tarawa Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 245	This is genius.I had never even considered running cheato thru a reactor like that. I have a transparent unused nextreef reactor that could be modified to do this, except lights on the outside, and wouldnt look anywhere near as cool.

09/26/2015, 11:38 AM	#59
Sinekal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Phoenix Posts: 165	Do you get any cyano inside the reactor or is the flow through sufficient to ensure it doesn't occur. My refugium does a great job of keeping nitrates and phosphates in check but I can't ever seem to create enough flow in it to keep the cyano in check.

09/27/2015, 04:17 PM	#60
rq786 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 126	I am trying to convert simple reactor for this method What color leds would work for it

09/28/2015, 02:22 PM	#63
rq786 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 126	Can you use rc car engine head

09/29/2015, 06:51 AM	#65
trueperc Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa, On, Canada Posts: 788	I am wondering on the sizing they use. JB NY, you were saying you are not getting the same growth as before and I am wondering would you have been better to go with a smaller unit? My thoughts are similar to those ATS, the people running them and who built them found bigger was always not better and there was for sure size issue. There was a great reduction in size recommendations from when it first started. The reason I am asking, is I have already contacted the company and really like this idea, but I stumbled across some board and people where have issues with getting good growth. The model they suggested was the E or C 24, but my thoughts is accually the E or C 18 as from my understanding standing is only a 6 inch height difference. I would rather trim more often than have an issue with growth. What do you think? If you where to do it again would you stay the same size or go the smaller unit?

09/29/2015, 08:21 AM	#67
trueperc Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa, On, Canada Posts: 788	I believe they actually provide you with some nitrate solution when you buy it.

09/29/2015, 09:46 AM	#72
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	I maintain it at 5ppm, I started with an almost zero reading and raised 1ppm a day until I had about 5-7ppm then dropped back to the dose I have now. It keeps my NO3 at 5ppm. __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

10/13/2015, 10:42 AM	#75
clorox Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 550	Ok, how do I buy one of these? Pax bellum's site is under construction. I sent them an email a week ago but no answer.