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coral102 · 07/15/2016, 07:23 PM

Can't wait to give it a try. Is the Life Bio Fil similar to siporax?

ClearwaterUK · 07/16/2016, 02:42 AM

more a replacement for Zeolite as I understand it

tamama · 07/17/2016, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ClearwaterUK

more a replacement for Zeolite as I understand it

Then what happens to the zeomix?

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MichaelW · 07/17/2016, 08:01 AM

To me it looks more like a replacement for sopirax etc, than zeomix. The part I don't get is the replacement part. Of its a media to house bacteria like sopirax I don't get why you would then remove it.

UB400 · 07/18/2016, 12:16 AM

More information on the Life Bio Fil please. Can we get an image of the contents of the container?
Can it be used to quickly cycle a new Tank and how long?
Thanks.

ClearwaterUK · 07/18/2016, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UB400

More information on the Life Bio Fil please. Can we get an image of the contents of the container?
Can it be used to quickly cycle a new Tank and how long?
Thanks.

Yes it helps with the cycle, each tank will be different though, so you will still need to test Amonia > Nitrite > Nitrate as the quality of live rock isn't universal

ClearwaterUK · 07/18/2016, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelW

To me it looks more like a replacement for sopirax etc, than zeomix. The part I don't get is the replacement part. Of its a media to house bacteria like sopirax I don't get why you would then remove it.

The replacement s to keep the bacteria levels optimum

ClearwaterUK · 07/18/2016, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by UB400

More information on the Life Bio Fil please. Can we get an image of the contents of the container?
Can it be used to quickly cycle a new Tank and how long?
Thanks.

Should have an Image for you later in the week

Razor Blade · 08/04/2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ClearwaterUK

Should have an Image for you later in the week

Any update on that image?

Aquaforest · 08/05/2016, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Razor Blade

Any update on that image?

plyle02 · 08/05/2016, 03:06 PM

That media looks very porous

Cannot wait for it to get to the US...

JaySchulz · 08/05/2016, 03:51 PM

More info on the Bio Fil please.

Piper27 · 08/18/2016, 08:22 AM

So basically this is a media similar to sporax, matrix and the other ones like it, but it contains bacteria straight out of the package to help seed the bacteria population quickly?

Piper27 · 08/27/2016, 08:13 AM

Anyone?

plyle02 · 08/27/2016, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Piper27

So basically this is a media similar to sporax, matrix and the other ones like it, but it contains bacteria straight out of the package to help seed the bacteria population quickly?

Piper,
Yes, as far as I know, this will replace siporax or matrix, it however is recommended to change out 10% every 6 weeks or so. The other difference is that is comes with bacteria already seeded straight away, this is why I think this product will be awesome

I plan on using it to replace my matrix when it comes available.

2dawghouse · 08/29/2016, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by plyle02

Piper,
Yes, as far as I know, this will replace siporax or matrix, it however is recommended to change out 10% every 6 weeks or so. The other difference is that is comes with bacteria already seeded straight away, this is why I think this product will be awesome

I plan on using it to replace my matrix when it comes available.

Perry, can the Life Bio fil can be used in conjunction with ZEO Mix? If so can you use them in the same reactor? Or is it a direct replacement?

Potatohead · 08/29/2016, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 2dawghouse

Perry, can the Life Bio fil can be used in conjunction with ZEO Mix? If so can you use them in the same reactor? Or is it a direct replacement?

You wouldn't put it in a reactor, you would want it in the lowest flow area of the sump to allow denitrifying bacteria to colonize. It is like putting in a bunch of live rock, it has nothing to do with zeostones which is a different thing entirely. The zeostones remove ammonia from the water, which in turn lowers nitrates because there is less ammonia for bacteria to convert. The Bio Fil is basically a "home" for the bacteria to live.

2dawghouse · 08/29/2016, 10:24 AM

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You wouldn't put it in a reactor, you would want it in the lowest flow area of the sump to allow denitrifying bacteria to colonize. It is like putting in a bunch of live rock, it has nothing to do with zeostones which is a different thing entirely. The zeostones remove ammonia from the water, which in turn lowers nitrates because there is less ammonia for bacteria to convert. The Bio Fil is basically a "home" for the bacteria to live.

I gotcha. But since it has denitrifying bacteria already seeded and needs to be changed out as often as zeolites...isn't it basically zeolites...

Potatohead · 08/29/2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 2dawghouse

I gotcha. But since it has denitrifying bacteria already seeded and needs to be changed out as often as zeolites...isn't it basically zeolites...

No, because zeolites help nitrifying bacteria, not denitrifying bacteria.

Nitrifying convert ammonia to nitrite, to nitrate. Denitrifying convert nitrate to CO2 which is then gassed off. The latter are much harder to colonize in an aquarium as they need low flow and virtually no oxygen. Nitrifying bacteria are ready to go in about four weeks (your cycle) but denitrifying take much longer and that is assuming there is a place for them to grow. This is where the media comes in, they allow the denitrifying bacteria to live deep inside where there is almost no water flow. This is also why you typically change out some media periodically, as the bacteria only live so long and when they die they will start to clog the media pores. Other brands of media such as Siporax and Eheim SubstratPro recommend the same thing, but at the same time some people use it for years and never touch it without issue.

2dawghouse · 08/29/2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Potatohead

No, because zeolites help nitrifying bacteria, not denitrifying bacteria.

Nitrifying convert ammonia to nitrite, to nitrate. Denitrifying convert nitrate to CO2 which is then gassed off. The latter are much harder to colonize in an aquarium as they need low flow and virtually no oxygen. Nitrifying bacteria are ready to go in about four weeks (your cycle) but denitrifying take much longer and that is assuming there is a place for them to grow. This is where the media comes in, they allow the denitrifying bacteria to live deep inside where there is almost no water flow. This is also why you typically change out some media periodically, as the bacteria only live so long and when they die they will start to clog the media pores. Other brands of media such as Siporax and Eheim SubstratPro recommend the same thing, but at the same time some people use it for years and never touch it without issue.

Thank you, makes perfect sense to me now. So with the media pre-seeded with denitrifying bacteria, then the colonization should be instant for the most part?

Potatohead · 08/29/2016, 11:03 AM

That's the theory, and if that is the case it would be awesome.

2dawghouse · 08/29/2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Potatohead

That's the theory, and if that is the case it would be awesome.

Do we know when it will be available?

spkennyva · 09/05/2016, 02:03 PM

What's the reason for the suggestion to replace 10-20% of media every 6 weeks?

StinkyBunny · 09/10/2016, 10:28 AM

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What's the reason for the suggestion to replace 10-20% of media every 6 weeks?

I'm curious about this as well. If it's a sintered glass product why would you need to change it and if it acts like live rock, why change it out?

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plyle02 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake Helen, FL Posts: 5,526	That media looks very porous Cannot wait for it to get to the US... __________________ Perry "Anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" ~Buddha~ Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon AIO Cube, Aquamaxx WS-1 Skimmer, LED/ Hybrid 4x24 watt t5

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ClearwaterUK Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cheshire UK Posts: 77	more a replacement for Zeolite as I understand it

07/17/2016, 08:01 AM	#5
MichaelW Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Kirkland WA Posts: 1,061	To me it looks more like a replacement for sopirax etc, than zeomix. The part I don't get is the replacement part. Of its a media to house bacteria like sopirax I don't get why you would then remove it.

07/18/2016, 12:16 AM	#6
UB400 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14	More information on the Life Bio Fil please. Can we get an image of the contents of the container? Can it be used to quickly cycle a new Tank and how long? Thanks.

08/05/2016, 03:51 PM	#13
JaySchulz Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 440	More info on the Bio Fil please.

08/18/2016, 08:22 AM	#14
Piper27 I love bengals Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Manassas Virginia Posts: 2,512	So basically this is a media similar to sporax, matrix and the other ones like it, but it contains bacteria straight out of the package to help seed the bacteria population quickly?

08/27/2016, 08:13 AM	#15
Piper27 I love bengals Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Manassas Virginia Posts: 2,512	Anyone?

08/29/2016, 11:03 AM	#22
Potatohead Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,596	That's the theory, and if that is the case it would be awesome.

09/05/2016, 02:03 PM	#24
spkennyva Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Suffolk, VA Posts: 195	What's the reason for the suggestion to replace 10-20% of media every 6 weeks?