Have to do something about these flatworms

PirateLove · 01/30/2018, 09:59 PM

About a week or two ago I noticed these little bugs by my powerhead. I posted a pic and they were id'd as flatworms. I just looked at my tank and they are all over the glass now and on the stalks on my frogspawn. I have two questions...

Would getting a yellow wrasse be a good first step? I heard they will eat them. I do not like the look of 6 line wrasses.

Also, are there any other pests that would affect or kill a frogspawn coral?

Thanks!

Daddi0 · 01/30/2018, 10:34 PM

I have a Dwarf Flameback Angel that picks at rocks all day long.

billdogg · 01/31/2018, 07:43 AM

I've tried manual removal. You'll never get on top of the problem that way unless you devote 32 hours/day to the job.

I've tried a green coris wrasse - he became a bully and didn't even dent the population. I ended up catching him with a #10 barbless flyfishing hook and line. He went to the LFS where they put him in with the large triggers and Lionfish where he held his own without issue.

I've tried Flatworm Exit. The first time at 1.5 x the suggest dose, the second a week later at 2x. Got some of them that way, but the remaining ones just laughed at me.

Then I got a pair of Blue Star Leopard Wrasses - both smallish females. They hit the water hunting and within a week there was not a FW to be found. They even carefully plucked them right off the fleshy part of my prized Elegance coral, without disturbing it at all. They continue to spend their days cruising the reef together, although one has made the switch to male. As an added bonus, they are probably the most visually stunning fish I have ever kept, and at least IME, 110% reef safe. (unless you are a flatworm)

nereefpat · 01/31/2018, 08:58 AM

It's good to know that leopard wrasses are so effective at eating flatworms.

A yellow wrasse (H. chrysus) should be an expert at it too. I agree to make sure that you don't get the much bigger/meaner green or any actual Coris sp wrasse.

Sgchick · 02/16/2018, 10:54 PM

I looked these up on Live Aquaria and they are gorgeous. Live Aquaria says they require expert care. Do you feel they are difficult?

Quote:

Originally Posted by billdogg

I've tried manual removal. You'll never get on top of the problem that way unless you devote 32 hours/day to the job.

I've tried a green coris wrasse - he became a bully and didn't even dent the population. I ended up catching him with a #10 barbless flyfishing hook and line. He went to the LFS where they put him in with the large triggers and Lionfish where he held his own without issue.

I've tried Flatworm Exit. The first time at 1.5 x the suggest dose, the second a week later at 2x. Got some of them that way, but the remaining ones just laughed at me.

Then I got a pair of Blue Star Leopard Wrasses - both smallish females. They hit the water hunting and within a week there was not a FW to be found. They even carefully plucked them right off the fleshy part of my prized Elegance coral, without disturbing it at all. They continue to spend their days cruising the reef together, although one has made the switch to male. As an added bonus, they are probably the most visually stunning fish I have ever kept, and at least IME, 110% reef safe. (unless you are a flatworm)

tkeracer619 · 02/17/2018, 01:00 AM

Yes, they can be. You certainly should try to get one that is in peak physical condition to start with if you are going to try them.

oldhead · 02/17/2018, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgchick

I looked these up on Live Aquaria and they are gorgeous. Live Aquaria says they require expert care. Do you feel they are difficult?

There is a huge primer thread in the reef fish section about leopard wrasses. There is some good reading in there.

billdogg · 02/17/2018, 06:06 AM

I think the "expert" rating is due mainly to their need for a proper sand bed to sleep in and having a well established tank so that there is plenty for them to hunt. They will be happiest when they can cruise around all day finding little morsels to feast upon. In a newer tank, that just won't be the case.

Sgchick · 02/17/2018, 07:54 AM

Thanks for the replies on the wrasse. I also thought the Valentini would eat the peppermint shrimp, but I have 3 that have been around for 4 months now and he doesn't even look at them...lol...I guess time will tell. I will check out the other wrasse that were mentioned.. and the articles...thanks so much!

Sgchick · 02/17/2018, 07:56 AM

I should have mentioned that my tank has been running for 4 years now :-)

ca1ore · 02/17/2018, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billdogg

I think the "expert" rating is due mainly to their need for a proper sand bed to sleep in and having a well established tank so that there is plenty for them to hunt. They will be happiest when they can cruise around all day finding little morsels to feast upon. In a newer tank, that just won't be the case.

That, and the fact that they don't ship/acclimate well.

Mknuwet · 02/17/2018, 07:53 PM

Levansole treatment worked for me it was a one and done treatment. It was so easy

Cari · 02/17/2018, 08:25 PM

Melanarus wrasse (male) for me, beautiful fish, great personality. Wouldn’t be without one!

01/30/2018, 10:34 PM	#2
Daddi0 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Redwood City Posts: 1,354	I have a Dwarf Flameback Angel that picks at rocks all day long. __________________ 2x 65g displays with a 30g cryptic refugium and 30g sump - 55g reef 30g Bio-cube reef - I.M. 30g reef - 45g freshwater

01/31/2018, 07:43 AM	#3
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	I've tried manual removal. You'll never get on top of the problem that way unless you devote 32 hours/day to the job. I've tried a green coris wrasse - he became a bully and didn't even dent the population. I ended up catching him with a #10 barbless flyfishing hook and line. He went to the LFS where they put him in with the large triggers and Lionfish where he held his own without issue. I've tried Flatworm Exit. The first time at 1.5 x the suggest dose, the second a week later at 2x. Got some of them that way, but the remaining ones just laughed at me. Then I got a pair of Blue Star Leopard Wrasses - both smallish females. They hit the water hunting and within a week there was not a FW to be found. They even carefully plucked them right off the fleshy part of my prized Elegance coral, without disturbing it at all. They continue to spend their days cruising the reef together, although one has made the switch to male. As an added bonus, they are probably the most visually stunning fish I have ever kept, and at least IME, 110% reef safe. (unless you are a flatworm) __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

01/31/2018, 08:58 AM	#4
nereefpat Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central Nebraska Posts: 3,190	It's good to know that leopard wrasses are so effective at eating flatworms. A yellow wrasse (H. chrysus) should be an expert at it too. I agree to make sure that you don't get the much bigger/meaner green or any actual Coris sp wrasse. __________________ Pat Current Tank Info: 125 in-wall , 40b sump. 6 bulb T5. ASM G2 skimmer. LPS and leathers

02/17/2018, 01:00 AM	#6
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Yes, they can be. You certainly should try to get one that is in peak physical condition to start with if you are going to try them. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

02/17/2018, 06:06 AM	#8
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	I think the "expert" rating is due mainly to their need for a proper sand bed to sleep in and having a well established tank so that there is plenty for them to hunt. They will be happiest when they can cruise around all day finding little morsels to feast upon. In a newer tank, that just won't be the case. __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

01/30/2018, 09:59 PM	#1
PirateLove Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Lexington,KY Posts: 511	Have to do something about these flatworms About a week or two ago I noticed these little bugs by my powerhead. I posted a pic and they were id'd as flatworms. I just looked at my tank and they are all over the glass now and on the stalks on my frogspawn. I have two questions... Would getting a yellow wrasse be a good first step? I heard they will eat them. I do not like the look of 6 line wrasses. Also, are there any other pests that would affect or kill a frogspawn coral? Thanks! __________________ "Pirate love, is what I'm looking for. Pirate love, is what i'm wanted for." Current tank: Cad Lights 42 versa. Kessil AP700. Some Sps and Lps.

02/17/2018, 07:54 AM	#9
Sgchick Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Soulsbyville, CA Posts: 77	Thanks for the replies on the wrasse. I also thought the Valentini would eat the peppermint shrimp, but I have 3 that have been around for 4 months now and he doesn't even look at them...lol...I guess time will tell. I will check out the other wrasse that were mentioned.. and the articles...thanks so much!

02/17/2018, 07:56 AM	#10
Sgchick Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Soulsbyville, CA Posts: 77	I should have mentioned that my tank has been running for 4 years now :-)

02/17/2018, 07:53 PM	#12
Mknuwet Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 88	Levansole treatment worked for me it was a one and done treatment. It was so easy

02/17/2018, 08:25 PM	#13
Cari Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Central NY Posts: 65	Melanarus wrasse (male) for me, beautiful fish, great personality. Wouldn’t be without one!