Proper Way to Handle SPS corals and SPS frags

whiterushen · 10/24/2019, 05:28 PM

New to the hobby--- first time ever caring for SPS corals. I'm assuming the less you handle corals, the better---especially with your bare hands. What is the proper want to handle SPS corals? Bare hands (where they can be exposed to natural oils from your hands?), gloves? Your input is appreciated.

outssider · 10/24/2019, 05:48 PM

bare hands are fine (rinsed off)…..the less you touch them the better

whiterushen · 10/24/2019, 05:55 PM

Thanks for the feedback Outssider. Yeah, after reading about how some corals emit potential poisonous slime (I believe the zoas are the most potent), but i've also noticed SPSs do slime a lot at times as well, I was a little nervous for health reasons about handling them. I make sure i wash thoroughly after and i dont touch my eyes, near my mouth, armpits or any vulnerable open avenues that are easier access to the blood stream.

outssider · 10/25/2019, 05:36 PM

I've never had a problem with poisons from acropora. When I said rinse your hands I met before touching them and before sticking your hands in the aquarium. you don't want to introduce pollutants into the tank or on the sps. rinsing after is a good idea also.....

whiterushen · 10/26/2019, 12:37 AM

Rinsing your hands before touching inside the tank as to not to pollute the tank and corals themselves makes sense. Thank you

BeachBumm · 10/26/2019, 06:07 PM

And rinse when you remove because you now have aquarium bacteria , fish poop , fish urine ....

and I would keep your fingers out of your mouth until washed !

whiterushen · 10/28/2019, 01:07 AM

My buddy who's been in the hobby 5 yrs actually just asked me today if I've ever looked under a microscope of my tank water...I was like naah. He said it's crazy the amount of bacteria, macro, micro algae and floara that's in tank water--- after he seen that, he rarely stuck his hands inside his tank...lol

outssider · 10/28/2019, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiterushen

My buddy who's been in the hobby 5 yrs actually just asked me today if I've ever looked under a microscope of my tank water...I was like naah. He said it's crazy the amount of bacteria, macro, micro algae and floara that's in tank water--- after he seen that, he rarely stuck his hands inside his tank...lol

there are tons of germs in the air too ! If you have a compromised immune system, you could be in a world of hurt …..

whiterushen · 10/29/2019, 06:18 PM

So ironically? I have had a comprimised immune system for the past 4 yrs. Docs cannot figure out what is wrong with me as i deteriorate. I've just been living the best life i can---but getting a lot sicker---im working as long as i can. So i got back in the reef hobby because it preoccupies my time and i love doing it. So without realizing it, this hobby may be potentially very harmful for me with all the bacteria i am exposing myself too. I have a bad infection they cant locate---a lung infection. i struggle with flu like symptoms and being lathargic daily---and my 2 tanks are my only relief in calmness and give me stuff to do during the day the relax my mind.

A Aaron · 11/03/2019, 10:39 PM

Jesus man that sucks. Honestly they sell full length arm gloves. If you are that sensitive to bacteria or anything else just invest some money in the gloves. Honestly I think you would be ok but to be safe wear gloves.

outssider · 11/04/2019, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Aaron

Honestly they sell full length arm gloves. If you are that sensitive to bacteria or anything else just invest some money in the gloves.

And what is he supposed to do about the air ???....not breathe ??

A Aaron · 11/04/2019, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outssider

And what is he supposed to do about the air ???....not breathe ??

So your telling me the bacteria in the water is floating in the air. Yes if you splash it on your face.

Perfect example is the toilet in your house. They all have germs and bacteria and the thought of what’s in the toilet getting in your mouth is disgusting. Yet we all have them just siting open in our homes. We wear gloves when we clean them and that’s it. If you can have a toilet bowl with water and human waste then I think you can have a fish tank if you take precautions when working on it.

A Aaron · 11/04/2019, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outssider

And what is he supposed to do about the air ???....not breathe ??

Oh yeah what about all the toxic zoas. Fine in the tank. Not when out and handling. And that is a toxin they is known to get aerosol but not if it’s just sitting in the tank.

outssider · 11/04/2019, 10:02 PM

with no immune system, there is enough germs in the air (forget about having an aquarium or a toilet, you could be out in the middle of nowhere) to kill you quick....

whiterushen · 11/05/2019, 12:56 PM

I'm taking all the safety precautions when handling or fragging corals. I have gloves, safety glasses ive used at work and a face shield when cutting corals. I havent tried fragging any of my zoas---and i may never do that---just from the toxi potentials from this species.
As far as the air goes--- I believe i am ok for the time being. The stories i have heard where people were maintaing their tanks and their pet or people having a bad reaction and ending up in the ER---most of these cases people were doing extreme actions within their tanks, causing the zoas to get stressed and releasing their toxic protection.
I am hopeful that as long as their in consistancy, stability, and the tank is in normal conditions, the water level toxicity and therefore any air dissipation that can potentially be harmful is kept to a minimum.

Oldreeferman · 11/30/2019, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiterushen

So ironically? I have had a comprimised immune system for the past 4 yrs. Docs cannot figure out what is wrong with me as i deteriorate. I've just been living the best life i can---but getting a lot sicker---im working as long as i can. So i got back in the reef hobby because it preoccupies my time and i love doing it. So without realizing it, this hobby may be potentially very harmful for me with all the bacteria i am exposing myself too. I have a bad infection they cant locate---a lung infection. i struggle with flu like symptoms and being lathargic daily---and my 2 tanks are my only relief in calmness and give me stuff to do during the day the relax my mind.

You don't by chance start siphoning by mouth do you on the tanks? That and Palytoxin inhalation are really the only way one could get lung issues.
If you don't mouth siphon or mess & disturb Palys then you must have a different health issue.

gprdypoo04 · 12/02/2019, 12:02 AM

Oh my God how depressing.

whiterushen · 12/04/2019, 04:18 PM

No, I never start my siphoning by mouth--- my water change tube has a self siphon bubble that i squeeze to start my siphoning. No, my health issue has been going on for 4 straight years now---i've only gotten back into the Reef hobby these past 4 months--- i didnt connect my health condition with the reef hobby--- i was only making the comment under the circumstance of---was it a smart thing for me getting back into the hobby with a known comprimised immune system.

10/24/2019, 05:28 PM	#1
whiterushen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 61	Proper Way to Handle SPS corals and SPS frags New to the hobby--- first time ever caring for SPS corals. I'm assuming the less you handle corals, the better---especially with your bare hands. What is the proper want to handle SPS corals? Bare hands (where they can be exposed to natural oils from your hands?), gloves? Your input is appreciated.

10/24/2019, 05:48 PM	#2
outssider Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Reseda, Ca. Posts: 1,717	bare hands are fine (rinsed off)…..the less you touch them the better __________________ Please don't feed the bears because the bears will become dependent on free handouts and forget how to take care of themselves …... Current Tank Info: 75 Gal. Mixed reef mostly sps

10/24/2019, 05:55 PM	#3
whiterushen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 61	Thank you outssider Thanks for the feedback Outssider. Yeah, after reading about how some corals emit potential poisonous slime (I believe the zoas are the most potent), but i've also noticed SPSs do slime a lot at times as well, I was a little nervous for health reasons about handling them. I make sure i wash thoroughly after and i dont touch my eyes, near my mouth, armpits or any vulnerable open avenues that are easier access to the blood stream.

10/25/2019, 05:36 PM	#4
outssider Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Reseda, Ca. Posts: 1,717	I've never had a problem with poisons from acropora. When I said rinse your hands I met before touching them and before sticking your hands in the aquarium. you don't want to introduce pollutants into the tank or on the sps. rinsing after is a good idea also..... __________________ Please don't feed the bears because the bears will become dependent on free handouts and forget how to take care of themselves …... Current Tank Info: 75 Gal. Mixed reef mostly sps

10/26/2019, 12:37 AM	#5
whiterushen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 61	Ok, that makes sense Rinsing your hands before touching inside the tank as to not to pollute the tank and corals themselves makes sense. Thank you

10/26/2019, 06:07 PM	#6
BeachBumm Registered Bumm Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 176	And rinse when you remove because you now have aquarium bacteria , fish poop , fish urine .... and I would keep your fingers out of your mouth until washed !

10/28/2019, 01:07 AM	#7
whiterushen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 61	Thank you for that info regarding wash right after My buddy who's been in the hobby 5 yrs actually just asked me today if I've ever looked under a microscope of my tank water...I was like naah. He said it's crazy the amount of bacteria, macro, micro algae and floara that's in tank water--- after he seen that, he rarely stuck his hands inside his tank...lol

10/29/2019, 06:18 PM	#9
whiterushen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 61	outsidder, are you a mind reader? wow...thanks for the input So ironically? I have had a comprimised immune system for the past 4 yrs. Docs cannot figure out what is wrong with me as i deteriorate. I've just been living the best life i can---but getting a lot sicker---im working as long as i can. So i got back in the reef hobby because it preoccupies my time and i love doing it. So without realizing it, this hobby may be potentially very harmful for me with all the bacteria i am exposing myself too. I have a bad infection they cant locate---a lung infection. i struggle with flu like symptoms and being lathargic daily---and my 2 tanks are my only relief in calmness and give me stuff to do during the day the relax my mind.

11/03/2019, 10:39 PM	#10
A Aaron Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 37	Jesus man that sucks. Honestly they sell full length arm gloves. If you are that sensitive to bacteria or anything else just invest some money in the gloves. Honestly I think you would be ok but to be safe wear gloves.

11/04/2019, 10:02 PM	#14
outssider Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Reseda, Ca. Posts: 1,717	with no immune system, there is enough germs in the air (forget about having an aquarium or a toilet, you could be out in the middle of nowhere) to kill you quick.... __________________ Please don't feed the bears because the bears will become dependent on free handouts and forget how to take care of themselves …... Current Tank Info: 75 Gal. Mixed reef mostly sps

11/05/2019, 12:56 PM	#15
whiterushen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 61	safety practices I'm taking all the safety precautions when handling or fragging corals. I have gloves, safety glasses ive used at work and a face shield when cutting corals. I havent tried fragging any of my zoas---and i may never do that---just from the toxi potentials from this species. As far as the air goes--- I believe i am ok for the time being. The stories i have heard where people were maintaing their tanks and their pet or people having a bad reaction and ending up in the ER---most of these cases people were doing extreme actions within their tanks, causing the zoas to get stressed and releasing their toxic protection. I am hopeful that as long as their in consistancy, stability, and the tank is in normal conditions, the water level toxicity and therefore any air dissipation that can potentially be harmful is kept to a minimum.

12/02/2019, 12:02 AM	#17
gprdypoo04 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 389	Oh my God how depressing.

12/04/2019, 04:18 PM	#18
whiterushen Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 61	Response to Olderreef man No, I never start my siphoning by mouth--- my water change tube has a self siphon bubble that i squeeze to start my siphoning. No, my health issue has been going on for 4 straight years now---i've only gotten back into the Reef hobby these past 4 months--- i didnt connect my health condition with the reef hobby--- i was only making the comment under the circumstance of---was it a smart thing for me getting back into the hobby with a known comprimised immune system.