SWC 160 cone vs. ASM G2

angieg1123 · 02/08/2010, 12:38 PM

Anyone have any opinions on this? I have always (10+ years) used ASM or Euro-reef skimmers. I'm setting up a 72g bowfront RR tank w/30g sump and was thinking of trying something new, lol. Not that I'm complaining about my asm or euro-reef skimmers, I just have nothing to compare them to for insump skimmers. I knew the name so I went with them.... and stayed with them. Are the cone skimmers really that much better? I need opinions from someone who has used both. I'm about 1 click away from pre-ordering the SWC 160 cone unless someone can give me reason not to.

The Asm G2 is the same price, so it comes down to performance.

FYI ** I do not do sps at this time, so this will be a softy and anemone tank....lightly stocked.

Thanks for the help!!

Angie

nikon187 · 02/08/2010, 01:07 PM

Though the sicce 2500 on the cone can be a little finnicky at times, it is still leaps and bounds ahead of any sedra pump. You won't be dissapointed with the cone.

angieg1123 · 02/08/2010, 01:10 PM

Thank you....I just didn't want to stay with a "brand" skimmer just because of the name. If I can do better for the same $$ I will.

angieg1123 · 02/08/2010, 02:16 PM

I just preordered the SWC 160. After 10+ years I could use a change.

If for some reason I do not like the performance, I have my "old reliables" lol.

Now I just can't wait for them to ship!!

BlueStag · 02/10/2010, 12:09 AM

The SWC 160 Cone comes with an Atman 2500 pump that pulls 600 LPH of air.

The ASM G2 comes with a Sedra 3500 and pulls ALOT less air. About 350+ LPH. A huge difference.

Just based on air pull alone, the SWC will skim much better. Factor in the efficient shape of the body. It will skim much, much, much better than the stock ASM G2. Other than price there isn't much to compare.

DevilBoy · 02/10/2010, 11:00 AM

i just pre ordered the SWC 160 cone for my 90g

danny1496 · 02/10/2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilBoy

i just pre ordered the SWC 160 cone for my 90g

me too.. check out the new post
SWC 160 cone club

mojo~ · 02/10/2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStag

The SWC 160 Cone comes with an Atman 2500 pump that pulls 600 LPH of air.

The ASM G2 comes with a Sedra 3500 and pulls ALOT less air. About 350+ LPH. A huge difference.

Just based on air pull alone, the SWC will skim much better. Factor in the efficient shape of the body. It will skim much, much, much better than the stock ASM G2. Other than price there isn't much to compare.

The swc 160 cone will skim well. But just because its a cone doesnt mean it will skim better than a cylinder.

and the atman 2500 seems be a nice cheap pump.

danny1496 · 02/10/2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mojo~

The swc 160 cone will skim well. But just because its a cone doesnt mean it will skim better than a cylinder.

and the atman 2500 seems be a nice cheap pump.

thanks mojo im happy to know this

BlueStag · 02/11/2010, 09:11 PM

The title of this thread is SWC Cone 160 Vs. ASM G2. Not Cone Vs. Cylinder.

And back to the topic. The SWC 160 is a better skimmer than the ASM G2 for a multiple of reasons. Bubble plate + Steeper Transition+ Greater air pull+ Better balance of the pump matched to the body and neck size+Lower wattage+Heavier acrylic and acrylic type+Drain plug + pricepoint+ smaller footprint. The list is pretty long. It's a new skimmer and time will tell. But it already has a lot going for it, that the ASM G2 doesn't.

G2 comes with thin acrylic, no drain plug, a pump thats undersized and mismatched for it's body, low air pull, no bubble plate to reduce turbulence. It works, but is a pretty dated design.

angieg1123 · 02/12/2010, 12:28 AM

Thanks Everyone.....I'm VERY glad I opted to preorder the SWC 160. It sounds like there will only be 1-2 problems with the cone......I will now get to see what my ASM and Euro-reef DIDN'T skim out

and I will have to wonder why I stayed with them for sooooooo long.

BlueStag · 02/12/2010, 05:16 AM

ASM and Euroreef were good for their time. No shame in using them. It was only a couple of years ago, they were the most used skimmers. They still work. Skimmers just have evolved a fair amount in the last couple of years. Pump selection got better. Airpull increased. Design got better. The amount of skimming available for the price is better now.

PowermanKW · 02/12/2010, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by angieg1123

Thanks Everyone.....I'm VERY glad I opted to preorder the SWC 160. It sounds like there will only be 1-2 problems with the cone......I will now get to see what my ASM and Euro-reef DIDN'T skim out

and I will have to wonder why I stayed with them for sooooooo long.

What problems do you think you will have. They are very consistent and very stable.

danny1496 · 02/12/2010, 08:19 AM

cant wait we should have them next week

fishoutawater · 02/13/2010, 12:36 AM

My sedra 3500 with a mesh mod and a little dremel work on the pump does 600lph

angieg1123 · 02/14/2010, 10:57 PM

I'm getting excited for the new skimmer to get here!! We have our local annual frag swap comming up on the 27th so it will be just in time

My 72g tank is running skimmerless right now. Not a problem since I only have wood polyps, GSP, and a yellow tang in there. Will be full of corals after the 27th though.

EllieSuz · 01/21/2011, 06:26 PM

How about an update on this thread? How are you liking the SWC 160?

kgk · 01/21/2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EllieSuz

How about an update on this thread? How are you liking the SWC 160?

I have been happy w/ mine. It's quiet and does the job. No issues with it.

02/08/2010, 12:38 PM	#1
angieg1123 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 525	SWC 160 cone vs. ASM G2 Anyone have any opinions on this? I have always (10+ years) used ASM or Euro-reef skimmers. I'm setting up a 72g bowfront RR tank w/30g sump and was thinking of trying something new, lol. Not that I'm complaining about my asm or euro-reef skimmers, I just have nothing to compare them to for insump skimmers. I knew the name so I went with them.... and stayed with them. Are the cone skimmers really that much better? I need opinions from someone who has used both. I'm about 1 click away from pre-ordering the SWC 160 cone unless someone can give me reason not to. The Asm G2 is the same price, so it comes down to performance. FYI ** I do not do sps at this time, so this will be a softy and anemone tank....lightly stocked. Thanks for the help!! Angie

02/08/2010, 01:07 PM	#2
nikon187 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 4,717	Though the sicce 2500 on the cone can be a little finnicky at times, it is still leaps and bounds ahead of any sedra pump. You won't be dissapointed with the cone. __________________ ----------------- Current Tanks: New 210 custom 84 x 24 x 24, 60g sump, SWC 250 extreme with bubble blaster 5000, 2 vortech mp40, 2 vortech mp10, 12 T5, Water blaster 5000, warner marine bio pellets, 60g clownfish cube, red carpet anemone with a 25g sump,SRO octopus 1000sss, 250w radium, lumenarc large.

02/10/2010, 12:09 AM	#5
BlueStag Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 1,054	The SWC 160 Cone comes with an Atman 2500 pump that pulls 600 LPH of air. The ASM G2 comes with a Sedra 3500 and pulls ALOT less air. About 350+ LPH. A huge difference. Just based on air pull alone, the SWC will skim much better. Factor in the efficient shape of the body. It will skim much, much, much better than the stock ASM G2. Other than price there isn't much to compare. __________________ Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts Current Tank Info: 180 Starphire, SWC 250A Cone skimmer, 14k 250MH, Tunze wavebox

02/11/2010, 09:11 PM	#10
BlueStag Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 1,054	The title of this thread is SWC Cone 160 Vs. ASM G2. Not Cone Vs. Cylinder. And back to the topic. The SWC 160 is a better skimmer than the ASM G2 for a multiple of reasons. Bubble plate + Steeper Transition+ Greater air pull+ Better balance of the pump matched to the body and neck size+Lower wattage+Heavier acrylic and acrylic type+Drain plug + pricepoint+ smaller footprint. The list is pretty long. It's a new skimmer and time will tell. But it already has a lot going for it, that the ASM G2 doesn't. G2 comes with thin acrylic, no drain plug, a pump thats undersized and mismatched for it's body, low air pull, no bubble plate to reduce turbulence. It works, but is a pretty dated design. __________________ Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts Current Tank Info: 180 Starphire, SWC 250A Cone skimmer, 14k 250MH, Tunze wavebox Last edited by BlueStag; 02/11/2010 at 09:38 PM.

02/12/2010, 05:16 AM	#12
BlueStag Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 1,054	ASM and Euroreef were good for their time. No shame in using them. It was only a couple of years ago, they were the most used skimmers. They still work. Skimmers just have evolved a fair amount in the last couple of years. Pump selection got better. Airpull increased. Design got better. The amount of skimming available for the price is better now. __________________ Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts Current Tank Info: 180 Starphire, SWC 250A Cone skimmer, 14k 250MH, Tunze wavebox Last edited by BlueStag; 02/12/2010 at 05:26 AM.

02/08/2010, 01:10 PM	#3
angieg1123 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 525	Thank you....I just didn't want to stay with a "brand" skimmer just because of the name. If I can do better for the same $$ I will.

02/08/2010, 02:16 PM	#4
angieg1123 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 525	I just preordered the SWC 160. After 10+ years I could use a change. If for some reason I do not like the performance, I have my "old reliables" lol. Now I just can't wait for them to ship!!

02/10/2010, 11:00 AM	#6
DevilBoy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wooster, Ohio Posts: 1,724	i just pre ordered the SWC 160 cone for my 90g

02/12/2010, 12:28 AM	#11
angieg1123 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 525	Thanks Everyone.....I'm VERY glad I opted to preorder the SWC 160. It sounds like there will only be 1-2 problems with the cone......I will now get to see what my ASM and Euro-reef DIDN'T skim out and I will have to wonder why I stayed with them for sooooooo long.

02/12/2010, 08:19 AM	#14
danny1496 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Plantation FL Posts: 322	cant wait we should have them next week

02/13/2010, 12:36 AM	#15
fishoutawater Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: salt lake city, ut Posts: 577	My sedra 3500 with a mesh mod and a little dremel work on the pump does 600lph

02/14/2010, 10:57 PM	#16
angieg1123 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 525	I'm getting excited for the new skimmer to get here!! We have our local annual frag swap comming up on the 27th so it will be just in time My 72g tank is running skimmerless right now. Not a problem since I only have wood polyps, GSP, and a yellow tang in there. Will be full of corals after the 27th though.

01/21/2011, 06:26 PM	#17
EllieSuz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,858	How about an update on this thread? How are you liking the SWC 160? __________________ "You can't learn this hobby one question at a time." (Mr. Tuskfish) Eileen Current Tank Info: I'm out of the hobby, but used to have a60 gal. reef, refugium in sump, Internal Mag 9 return, SC 302 skimmer, two Maxi-Jet 1200's modded, four bulb T5 Lighting, Reefkeeper Lite Controller with three PC4's, Little Fishes GFO reactor.