Help Chalices are Melting Away. - Page 10

HOC · 01/10/2009, 08:58 AM

Mine completely stopped and recovered now. I honestly can't say if it was from the treatment though. I discovered the Reefers Best salt I was using dropped my tank to 300 Calcium and 1000 Magnesium. I treated the tank and raised the elements at the same time.

SeaIsle · 01/10/2009, 12:02 PM

Wow I am glad that I found this thread. I am seeing the same signs of recession on my chalices. I thought water quality when I lost my first chalice within two days of adding and after 3 weeks of closely monitoring water quality and increasing mg to the 1400 range I added 2 chalices yesterday and have begun to notice the recession. I am heading out today to pickup some Interceptor and will do a dip as I only have 2 affected pieces. I will revert back with my findings.

TandN · 01/23/2009, 10:34 PM

I lost a small acan colony and now my tyree watermelon the skin is falling off just melting away. Anyone try a 5g bucket w/ a HIGH dosage of interceptor for a few hours ?

roblack · 01/23/2009, 11:07 PM

Should work fine. Put a little powerhead in there so the Interceptor dust or pieces don't settle on the coral. Watch the coral. I have dipped new corals with Interceptor as a preventative measure, and when the dosage is "HIGH" they can stress a bit and start to excrete a lot of slime. Don't overdo it too much, but for the most part Interceptor is pretty kind to corals IME. They even seem to like it, maybe it is the beef flavoring they put in the pills, who knows?

ReefMonger · 01/24/2009, 04:09 PM

All of my chalices melted away, but that because my heater exploded and wiped everything out

murfman · 01/30/2009, 10:45 AM

So no one has ever verified the "black bugs" with the use of a microscope yet?

justin_freebord · 02/01/2009, 01:42 AM

im going to try and get some interceptor tomorrow. Im an 18 year old college student and im going to a vet in a college town so knowing my life they will probably think im going to try and get high or soemthing...i noticed recession on my micro about 2 weeks after i got it. I plan to dip it in some interceptor in a small container for about an hour or two. If it doesnt help then i am going to go out and buy mg, alk, and ca test kits and im assuming my parameters will be off although my duncan and frogspawn seem to be fine and the duncan is even regrowing lost flesh from poor care at the lfs

roblack · 02/01/2009, 10:26 AM

Why would the vet think you were going to get high on Interceptor? LOL! College students in the Bay area shouldn't have any trouble with that. I'm not sure why they are so stringent with the bug killing pills, but there should be more and more reef friendly vets popping up around the country. Seems like they are missing out on a big market otherwise.

kwpgrooming · 02/01/2009, 10:36 AM

I have been having some problems with my acans & chalices. My concern with treating my entire tank with Interceptor is how it will affect my cleaner & blood shimp. What about urchins? I don't want to make them sick or kill them.

murfman · 02/01/2009, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roblack
Why would the vet think you were going to get high on Interceptor? LOL! College students in the Bay area shouldn't have any trouble with that. I'm not sure why they are so stringent with the bug killing pills, but there should be more and more reef friendly vets popping up around the country. Seems like they are missing out on a big market otherwise.

The issues isn't you getting high on it, if you treat a dog that has a heartworm infestation, you will kill the dog. They have to be checked before they can take the medicine.

justin_freebord · 02/01/2009, 02:22 PM

i was just kidding about the getting high, i just dont understand why if i say im using it in my fishtank they cant give me it. Im sure theres a ton of reasons i cant think of because they are very unlikely for me to do but meh. I called and they said no. Ill call the others tomorrow.

my plan of attack : i have a saltwater aquarium, one coral is dying. I think it has bugs. Interceptor kills bug. Many people have used interceptor to kill said bugs in different tanks. Please give me interceptor. Thanks : D

haha well see how that goes

roblack · 02/01/2009, 03:17 PM

Borrow a stray, feed it, get Interceptor, feed it again and go separate ways. Everyone wins! The Strays For Reefs Initiative.

justin_freebord · 02/01/2009, 03:27 PM

too much effort....not only am i a poor college student, im also a lazy one heh

Mixedreefer · 02/01/2009, 09:04 PM

I don't know if lazy and this hobby go together??

justin_freebord · 02/01/2009, 09:33 PM

i meant it as thats too much effort to find a stray for some pills...especially when i dont know if it will even help. Trust me im not lazy when it come to my tank and my girlfriend lets me hear it often

murfman · 02/02/2009, 10:34 AM

Print out the research on Red Bug eradication and take it to the vet. Show them it is legit. If that doesn't work, move on to the next vet.

Mini_GBR · 06/08/2009, 10:45 PM

quick question. Will the pod population come back, or will i need to introduce a few after the treatment later to get a population going. Also, will my snails be ok, or should I pull those guys too? Thanks,

-Mike

Znut Reefer · 06/08/2009, 11:11 PM

The pods will come back. Snails will be fine, it kills pods and crabs, red bugs.

Mini_GBR · 06/09/2009, 10:13 PM

soooo... I'm 8 hours into my treatment (3.5x the red bug treatment) and I have found the black bugs that people have mentioned within the living (clearer) flesh near where the skeleton and the flesh start, and they are still moving around. Should I let this sit over night and re-evaluate in the morning, or do a 30% WC now, and do another treatment in a week or so.

SaraB · 06/10/2009, 08:11 AM

I've done Interceptor treatments with the water change and without doing one. It's really your call, but when I treated all my LPS I didn't do the water changes right away ... just my normal weekly ones a few days later.

Bamm Bamm · 06/11/2009, 11:47 PM

Arghhh I think I have a few chalices showing signs of this as well. I need to test my water.

JOSE CASAS · 06/12/2009, 08:46 AM

So how many people ahve treated and had good luck? I know I have and others with no luck. I have yet to figure out what is going on but think it has something to do with temp.

amore169 · 06/25/2009, 09:51 PM

BUMP

SaraB · 06/26/2009, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOSE CASAS
So how many people ahve treated and had good luck? I know I have and others with no luck. I have yet to figure out what is going on but think it has something to do with temp.

I've treated 3 separate times with luck myself. I just have to quit buying stuff that's bringing it in is all. Just like redbugs, one dip before adding does not kill eggs and you still can get them from a re-hatch!

Momof2 · 07/23/2009, 01:45 PM

Okay, I've had this same problem. I bought a chalice off a guy, and within a day of putting it in my tank, it had melted away with the white 'strings'. I fragged it back to almost nothing and quarantined it, but it looks like the damage is done and I have nasties in my system. I'm sold on the Interceptor after reading this thread, but I live in Las Vegas, where they're super strict on drugs because of the idiots on the street. I can't seem to get either of my vets--even the one for my reef-- to approve the prescription. Could someone point me to the canadian websites that don't need the script?

Thanks!

01/10/2009, 08:58 AM	#226
HOC Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Earlham, Iowa Posts: 1,131	Mine completely stopped and recovered now. I honestly can't say if it was from the treatment though. I discovered the Reefers Best salt I was using dropped my tank to 300 Calcium and 1000 Magnesium. I treated the tank and raised the elements at the same time. __________________ Don't get caught up in what you think you know. Current Tank Info: Elos 160

01/24/2009, 04:09 PM	#230
ReefMonger Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Underwater Posts: 724	All of my chalices melted away, but that because my heater exploded and wiped everything out __________________ I will work for corals Current Tank Info: 180 Gal

02/01/2009, 01:42 AM	#232
justin_freebord Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area Cali Posts: 220	im going to try and get some interceptor tomorrow. Im an 18 year old college student and im going to a vet in a college town so knowing my life they will probably think im going to try and get high or soemthing...i noticed recession on my micro about 2 weeks after i got it. I plan to dip it in some interceptor in a small container for about an hour or two. If it doesnt help then i am going to go out and buy mg, alk, and ca test kits and im assuming my parameters will be off although my duncan and frogspawn seem to be fine and the duncan is even regrowing lost flesh from poor care at the lfs __________________ I LOVE LPS Current Tank Info: 10 gallon, ac20 fuge, 2x koralia nano 70 wat diy halide 20k ushio. Tank set up oct 08 currently houses several zoas, duncan, micromussa, grape watermellon chalice, 3 sexy shrimp, green clowngoby, xenia, tubbs birdnest, cali tort, yahia haze

02/01/2009, 02:22 PM	#236
justin_freebord Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area Cali Posts: 220	i was just kidding about the getting high, i just dont understand why if i say im using it in my fishtank they cant give me it. Im sure theres a ton of reasons i cant think of because they are very unlikely for me to do but meh. I called and they said no. Ill call the others tomorrow. my plan of attack : i have a saltwater aquarium, one coral is dying. I think it has bugs. Interceptor kills bug. Many people have used interceptor to kill said bugs in different tanks. Please give me interceptor. Thanks : D haha well see how that goes __________________ I LOVE LPS Current Tank Info: 10 gallon, ac20 fuge, 2x koralia nano 70 wat diy halide 20k ushio. Tank set up oct 08 currently houses several zoas, duncan, micromussa, grape watermellon chalice, 3 sexy shrimp, green clowngoby, xenia, tubbs birdnest, cali tort, yahia haze

02/01/2009, 03:17 PM	#237
roblack Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 3,094	Borrow a stray, feed it, get Interceptor, feed it again and go separate ways. Everyone wins! The Strays For Reefs Initiative. Last edited by roblack; 02/01/2009 at 03:24 PM.

01/10/2009, 12:02 PM	#227
SeaIsle Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 168	Wow I am glad that I found this thread. I am seeing the same signs of recession on my chalices. I thought water quality when I lost my first chalice within two days of adding and after 3 weeks of closely monitoring water quality and increasing mg to the 1400 range I added 2 chalices yesterday and have begun to notice the recession. I am heading out today to pickup some Interceptor and will do a dip as I only have 2 affected pieces. I will revert back with my findings.

01/23/2009, 10:34 PM	#228
TandN Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,009	I lost a small acan colony and now my tyree watermelon the skin is falling off just melting away. Anyone try a 5g bucket w/ a HIGH dosage of interceptor for a few hours ?

01/23/2009, 11:07 PM	#229
roblack Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 3,094	Should work fine. Put a little powerhead in there so the Interceptor dust or pieces don't settle on the coral. Watch the coral. I have dipped new corals with Interceptor as a preventative measure, and when the dosage is "HIGH" they can stress a bit and start to excrete a lot of slime. Don't overdo it too much, but for the most part Interceptor is pretty kind to corals IME. They even seem to like it, maybe it is the beef flavoring they put in the pills, who knows?

01/30/2009, 10:45 AM	#231
murfman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,670	So no one has ever verified the "black bugs" with the use of a microscope yet?

02/01/2009, 10:26 AM	#233
roblack Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 3,094	Why would the vet think you were going to get high on Interceptor? LOL! College students in the Bay area shouldn't have any trouble with that. I'm not sure why they are so stringent with the bug killing pills, but there should be more and more reef friendly vets popping up around the country. Seems like they are missing out on a big market otherwise.

02/01/2009, 10:36 AM	#234
kwpgrooming Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: texas Posts: 106	I have been having some problems with my acans & chalices. My concern with treating my entire tank with Interceptor is how it will affect my cleaner & blood shimp. What about urchins? I don't want to make them sick or kill them.

02/01/2009, 03:27 PM	#238
justin_freebord Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area Cali Posts: 220	too much effort....not only am i a poor college student, im also a lazy one heh __________________ I LOVE LPS Current Tank Info: 10 gallon, ac20 fuge, 2x koralia nano 70 wat diy halide 20k ushio. Tank set up oct 08 currently houses several zoas, duncan, micromussa, grape watermellon chalice, 3 sexy shrimp, green clowngoby, xenia, tubbs birdnest, cali tort, yahia haze

02/01/2009, 09:04 PM	#239
Mixedreefer Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	I don't know if lazy and this hobby go together??

02/01/2009, 09:33 PM	#240
justin_freebord Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area Cali Posts: 220	i meant it as thats too much effort to find a stray for some pills...especially when i dont know if it will even help. Trust me im not lazy when it come to my tank and my girlfriend lets me hear it often __________________ I LOVE LPS Current Tank Info: 10 gallon, ac20 fuge, 2x koralia nano 70 wat diy halide 20k ushio. Tank set up oct 08 currently houses several zoas, duncan, micromussa, grape watermellon chalice, 3 sexy shrimp, green clowngoby, xenia, tubbs birdnest, cali tort, yahia haze

02/02/2009, 10:34 AM	#241
murfman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,670	Print out the research on Red Bug eradication and take it to the vet. Show them it is legit. If that doesn't work, move on to the next vet.

06/08/2009, 10:45 PM	#242
Mini_GBR Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 62	quick question. Will the pod population come back, or will i need to introduce a few after the treatment later to get a population going. Also, will my snails be ok, or should I pull those guys too? Thanks, -Mike __________________ RC does not allow URLs in sigs for anyone but site sponsors. Current Tank Info: A 30,000 gallon aquaponic farm. But looking to get back into the reefing hobby with a 60g anemone only tank

06/08/2009, 11:11 PM	#243
Znut Reefer Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Claxton, Ga Posts: 3,396	The pods will come back. Snails will be fine, it kills pods and crabs, red bugs.

06/09/2009, 10:13 PM	#244
Mini_GBR Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 62	soooo... I'm 8 hours into my treatment (3.5x the red bug treatment) and I have found the black bugs that people have mentioned within the living (clearer) flesh near where the skeleton and the flesh start, and they are still moving around. Should I let this sit over night and re-evaluate in the morning, or do a 30% WC now, and do another treatment in a week or so. __________________ RC does not allow URLs in sigs for anyone but site sponsors. Current Tank Info: A 30,000 gallon aquaponic farm. But looking to get back into the reefing hobby with a 60g anemone only tank

06/10/2009, 08:11 AM	#245
SaraB Coral Killer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lemont, IL Posts: 4,461	I've done Interceptor treatments with the water change and without doing one. It's really your call, but when I treated all my LPS I didn't do the water changes right away ... just my normal weekly ones a few days later. __________________ Sara

06/11/2009, 11:47 PM	#246
Bamm Bamm Saltwater Guru Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Brentwood, NOR CAL Posts: 9,309	Arghhh I think I have a few chalices showing signs of this as well. I need to test my water. __________________ 25g rimless cube in the works Current Tank Info: 60g cube

06/12/2009, 08:46 AM	#247
JOSE CASAS Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fullerton, Califas Posts: 3,269	So how many people ahve treated and had good luck? I know I have and others with no luck. I have yet to figure out what is going on but think it has something to do with temp.

06/25/2009, 09:51 PM	#248
amore169 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,250	BUMP __________________ Arnie. Current Tank Info: 400 Gallon Starphire Rimless. 8 A360WE Kessils with controller. Sfiligoi Infinity DDE 6X250 light fixture. Bubble King Internal 300 Deluxe. 215 Gallon Oceanic Starphire Ultimate FOWRL. 34 Gallon Solana.

07/23/2009, 01:45 PM	#250
Momof2 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4	Okay, I've had this same problem. I bought a chalice off a guy, and within a day of putting it in my tank, it had melted away with the white 'strings'. I fragged it back to almost nothing and quarantined it, but it looks like the damage is done and I have nasties in my system. I'm sold on the Interceptor after reading this thread, but I live in Las Vegas, where they're super strict on drugs because of the idiots on the street. I can't seem to get either of my vets--even the one for my reef-- to approve the prescription. Could someone point me to the canadian websites that don't need the script? Thanks!