Why are brs overflow box's so expensive?!

thomas.torode · 01/16/2017, 01:35 AM

I am looking to drill my tank and install a sump and I need an Overflow. I searched on reef supply and found one from $36 - $80. I also found one much bigger on ebay that looks like it would do the trick just as well for half that price. Call me cheap because this is an expensive hobby, but why would I need to spend $80 on a plastic holo box with a few holes in it. What is the difference between this cheap overflow box on ebay and this seemingly over priced over flow box on BRS. This doesn't make sense!

Sources:
BRS: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/cpr-re...rflow-box.html

EBAY: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AQUARIUM-OVE...3D252403083341

roostertech · 01/16/2017, 02:05 AM

It all come down to if you want to gamble to save a few $. Your tank will be your cheapest component in this hobby.

billdogg · 01/16/2017, 05:23 AM

You might want to take a look at ww.glass-holes.com

reefwiser · 01/16/2017, 05:39 AM

The problem with this type of overflow is that it is rather noisy. You would be better to get a overflow setup to use a durso system that is quite.
http://synergyreef.com/product/20-sy...reef-overflow/
This one is quite and comes as a complete system with overflow and drain box on the back. You will be very happy having a quite drain.

crawlerman · 01/16/2017, 07:50 AM

Look up bean animal overflow, might be the way you want to go.

http://www.beananimal.com/projects/s...ow-system.aspx

ericarenee · 01/16/2017, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by reefwiser

The problem with this type of overflow is that it is rather noisy. You would be better to get a overflow setup to use a durso system that is quite.
http://synergyreef.com/product/20-sy...reef-overflow/
This one is quite and comes as a complete system with overflow and drain box on the back. You will be very happy having a quite drain.

Do you have one of these I have read some bad reviews on the cover design..

andy67 · 01/16/2017, 08:56 AM

Hi there
These Eshopps come in 3 different sizes and include a glass hole saw

http://www.eshopps.com/products/over...xes/eclipse-m/

mcgyvr · 01/16/2017, 09:09 AM

I'd guess that the ebay one is actually made by the seller..
The one sold at BRS is a CPR overflow box..
So you have a middle man there too that needs to make money..

That and I believe the CPR overflow has been around a while (before there was much competition..)

MMacro · 01/16/2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ericarenee

Do you have one of these I have read some bad reviews on the cover design..

I have the 16" model on my tank and it has been running flawlessly so far.

ericarenee · 01/16/2017, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reeferplax

I have the 16" model on my tank and it has been running flawlessly so far.

awesome. How hard is it to get the weir out i know it looks like it slides in a grove...

Fro me it does not matter as i built mine...... just seen some videos and post on them..

But thank you..

MMacro · 01/16/2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ericarenee

awesome. How hard is it to get the weir out i know it looks like it slides in a grove...

Fro me it does not matter as i built mine...... just seen some videos and post on them..

But thank you..

It comes off pretty easily. It clips on by using magnets on each side of the connection points.

reefwiser · 01/16/2017, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericarenee

Do you have one of these I have read some bad reviews on the cover design..

I a club member used one on his tank it was really nice. I liked the magnetic connection of the weir and it was really quite.

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ericarenee · 01/16/2017, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeferplax

It comes off pretty easily. It clips on by using magnets on each side of the connection points.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwiser

I a club member used one on his tank it was really nice. I liked the magnetic connection of the weir and it was really quite.

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Thanks guys.. Now i am wondering about the video of the guy struggling with getting it on.

Operator error it seems

Mine looks no where near that nice but its covered in coraline and coral

you cant hardly tell its there.OLD Image but you can see how thin it is. Tank does not look even close to that now..

Desert Sea · 01/16/2017, 05:52 PM

You can also check out Elite Aquatics. They make an overflow box very similar to Synergy Reef but more economical. Also Modular Marine make overflows but their weirs are not removable like the SR and EA's are. They also make just the internal overflow box in case you want to go that route.

Elite Aquatics - http://www.elite-aquatics.net/index....&product_id=44

Modular Marine - http://modularmarine.com/collections/overflow-boxes

ericarenee · 01/16/2017, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas.torode

I am looking to drill my tank and install a sump and I need an Overflow. I searched on reef supply and found one from $36 - $80. I also found one much bigger on ebay that looks like it would do the trick just as well for half that price. Call me cheap because this is an expensive hobby, but why would I need to spend $80 on a plastic holo box with a few holes in it. What is the difference between this cheap overflow box on ebay and this seemingly over priced over flow box on BRS. This doesn't make sense!

Sources:
BRS: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/cpr-re...rflow-box.html

EBAY: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AQUARIUM-OVE...3D252403083341

Sorry did not mean to push your thread so far off topic.. But i think its been answered a few times..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Sea

You can also check out Elite Aquatics. They make an overflow box very similar to Synergy Reef but more economical. Also Modular Marine make overflows but their weirs are not removable like the SR and EA's are. They also make just the internal overflow box in case you want to go that route.

Elite Aquatics - http://www.elite-aquatics.net/index....&product_id=44

Modular Marine - http://modularmarine.com/collections/overflow-boxes

Yea i have seen them.

Sorry i was not looking for one i just seen someone having trouble with the one i was commenting on and was Curious..

TangingOut · 01/16/2017, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwiser

The problem with this type of overflow is that it is rather noisy. You would be better to get a overflow setup to use a durso system that is quite.
http://synergyreef.com/product/20-sy...reef-overflow/
This one is quite and comes as a complete system with overflow and drain box on the back. You will be very happy having a quite drain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwiser

I a club member used one on his tank it was really nice. I liked the magnetic connection of the weir and it was really quite.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Quiet.

I'm sorry, but I had to.

ericarenee · 01/16/2017, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TangingOut

Quiet.

I'm sorry, but I had to.

He has it rite .

you'uns are to noisy over there usens needs ya to quite down yalls

You obviously are not from Kentucky..

reefwiser · 01/16/2017, 06:17 PM

Sorry for the spell check issue I am sure you have never had that happen

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Ou8me2 · 01/16/2017, 10:31 PM

A lot of the price difference is a well-known company vs someone on Ebay who makes their own. Also, you have to look at the material they use. I have never used one of the cheap Ebay ones so I can't comment. I have a tank with a Durso and it's pretty darn silent. I also have another tank with ModularMarine 1200gph and it's similar to the Synergy Reef ones and works very well. I'd be more interested in the new Shadow Overflows that Synergy Reef is selling now.

This is the ModularMarine one I have: http://modularmarine.com/collections...urface-skimmer

One thing you don't want is a noisy overflow.

GQsmooth · 01/16/2017, 11:25 PM

That's expensive? Look at the Synergy reef overflow box, I went with them due to terrible customer service from Modular.

External box is the way to go!

EvenFurther · 01/17/2017, 06:45 AM

Modular Marine has provided great customer service to me. I've bought 2 times, both custom pieces.

Elricsfate · 01/17/2017, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ericarenee

Do you have one of these I have read some bad reviews on the cover design..

I have both the 20" and the new Shadow (16"). I have only one complaint and it does in fact involve the cover.

When you line the teeth on the inside up on a tank that has trim, you need to put it fairly close to the top in order that the water level is above the bottom of the trim. When you do this, the back end is very close to the bottom of the outside trim and it is difficult to get the lid to fit onto the overflow.

Aside from that, these are good overflows. I actually like the more solid feel of the 20 though. The Shadow works, I have it running right now. But it has a thinner, cheaper feel.

01/16/2017, 01:35 AM	#1
thomas.torode Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 158	Why are brs overflow box's so expensive?! I am looking to drill my tank and install a sump and I need an Overflow. I searched on reef supply and found one from $36 - $80. I also found one much bigger on ebay that looks like it would do the trick just as well for half that price. Call me cheap because this is an expensive hobby, but why would I need to spend $80 on a plastic holo box with a few holes in it. What is the difference between this cheap overflow box on ebay and this seemingly over priced over flow box on BRS. This doesn't make sense! Sources: BRS: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/cpr-re...rflow-box.html EBAY: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AQUARIUM-OVE...3D252403083341 __________________ Red Sea MAX 250, 25 Gallon Nano

01/16/2017, 05:23 AM	#3
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	You might want to take a look at ww.glass-holes.com __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

01/16/2017, 05:39 AM	#4
reefwiser Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Louisville,Kentucky Posts: 1,208	The problem with this type of overflow is that it is rather noisy. You would be better to get a overflow setup to use a durso system that is quite. http://synergyreef.com/product/20-sy...reef-overflow/ This one is quite and comes as a complete system with overflow and drain box on the back. You will be very happy having a quite drain. __________________ President Louisville Marine Aquarium Society. http://www.lmas.org/ The 3rd Annual Frag swap will be held September 23rd,2017 11 am till 3pm Saint Thomas Fellowship hall,9616 Westport Road,Louisvi

01/16/2017, 09:09 AM	#8
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	I'd guess that the ebay one is actually made by the seller.. The one sold at BRS is a CPR overflow box.. So you have a middle man there too that needs to make money.. That and I believe the CPR overflow has been around a while (before there was much competition..) __________________ Who me?

01/16/2017, 06:17 PM	#18
reefwiser Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Louisville,Kentucky Posts: 1,208	Sorry for the spell check issue I am sure you have never had that happen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ President Louisville Marine Aquarium Society. http://www.lmas.org/ The 3rd Annual Frag swap will be held September 23rd,2017 11 am till 3pm Saint Thomas Fellowship hall,9616 Westport Road,Louisvi

01/16/2017, 02:05 AM	#2
roostertech Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 148	It all come down to if you want to gamble to save a few $. Your tank will be your cheapest component in this hobby.

01/16/2017, 07:50 AM	#5
crawlerman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 503	Look up bean animal overflow, might be the way you want to go. http://www.beananimal.com/projects/s...ow-system.aspx

01/16/2017, 08:56 AM	#7
andy67 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Discovery Bay Ca Posts: 147	Hi there These Eshopps come in 3 different sizes and include a glass hole saw http://www.eshopps.com/products/over...xes/eclipse-m/

01/16/2017, 05:52 PM	#14
Desert Sea Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 294	You can also check out Elite Aquatics. They make an overflow box very similar to Synergy Reef but more economical. Also Modular Marine make overflows but their weirs are not removable like the SR and EA's are. They also make just the internal overflow box in case you want to go that route. Elite Aquatics - http://www.elite-aquatics.net/index....&product_id=44 Modular Marine - http://modularmarine.com/collections/overflow-boxes

01/16/2017, 10:31 PM	#19
Ou8me2 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 743	A lot of the price difference is a well-known company vs someone on Ebay who makes their own. Also, you have to look at the material they use. I have never used one of the cheap Ebay ones so I can't comment. I have a tank with a Durso and it's pretty darn silent. I also have another tank with ModularMarine 1200gph and it's similar to the Synergy Reef ones and works very well. I'd be more interested in the new Shadow Overflows that Synergy Reef is selling now. This is the ModularMarine one I have: http://modularmarine.com/collections...urface-skimmer One thing you don't want is a noisy overflow.

01/16/2017, 11:25 PM	#20
GQsmooth Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 153	That's expensive? Look at the Synergy reef overflow box, I went with them due to terrible customer service from Modular. External box is the way to go!

01/17/2017, 06:45 AM	#21
EvenFurther Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 352	Modular Marine has provided great customer service to me. I've bought 2 times, both custom pieces. __________________ Slowly Building: 38 Gal. DT Cube \| DIY Sump \| DIY Stand