ATI ICP Test results: AF problems?

Zweebe · 12/21/2016, 07:33 AM

Hey reefers!

I just got my ATI ICP analysis and despite ATI don't warm me about some results, I have some question about those results that seems not good for some elements..

Here is the results I'm worried about:

- Silicon 178.7 µg/l
- Barium 74.78 µg/l
- Nickel 1.60 µg/l
- Copper 2.79 µg/l
- Bismuth 2.09 µg/l
- Chloride 16407 mg/l

Some SPS start to fade since few months and that's why I did this ICP test. This could be the reason according you?

I think my osmosis system membrane should be change despite it show me 0.00PPM.

According to others members, this could be a problem coming from Aquaforest products as Energy seems to containt copper.. And When I think about that, it almost start when I start Amino, Energy, Build and Vitality.

I'm using probiotic salt, NP Pro and Pro bio S + the 4 others products. A reactor with Zeomix and carbon is also running but without GFO.

Can someone help me solved this problem as some SPS start to fade and are not healthy at all.. :/

Is Detox from Triton can help to remove those metals in a first time?

Thanks

ClearwaterUK · 12/21/2016, 07:48 AM

Detox will remove Cu
Barium is often coming from Phosphate absorbers GFO a change to Al based Po4 absorber will remove this
Nickel and Copper can come from corroding electrical items or plated screws etc
if the chloride is out look at your salinity

Energy has a tiny amount of Copper Sulphate, I have been using this product over 6 months and have no Cu showing uo on ICP tests by TRITON or Aquaforrest

Zweebe · 12/21/2016, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClearwaterUK

Detox will remove Cu
Barium is often coming from Phosphate absorbers GFO a change to Al based Po4 absorber will remove this
Nickel and Copper can come from corroding electrical items or plated screws etc
if the chloride is out look at your salinity

Energy has a tiny amount of Copper Sulphate, I have been using this product over 6 months and have no Cu showing uo on ICP tests by TRITON or Aquaforrest

Ok thanks for the advices!

But I don't use GFO as I said then I don't know where Barium does it come from :/

And about Nickel and Copper, I don't think something is corroding in the tank.. I will do a water changes with Reef Salt and not probiotic salt for couple of weeks, use Detox for Copper and then check every electrical items in my sump.. good or bad idea?

Another question, maybe really stupid, but something can come from the fact my refugium is on a lot of time during a 24h period? Don't think so but sometime, weards things happened so..

GoVols · 12/21/2016, 08:59 AM

Already been addressed.

http://166.78.194.232/forums/showthread.php?t=2606752

Zweebe · 12/21/2016, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoVols

Already been addressed.

http://166.78.194.232/forums/showthread.php?t=2606752

Hmm interesting!

This could come from the Probiotic Salt then ok!

Despite the fast my Po4 and No3 are really low or almost undetectable my corals are not really pale, is it normal? Maybe due to another element..?

ClearwaterUK · 12/22/2016, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zweebe

Hmm interesting!

Despite the fast my Po4 and No3 are really low or almost undetectable my corals are not really pale, is it normal? Maybe due to another element..?

I am not sure what to question is ?

The AF method isn't trying to create pale pastel colours

Zweebe · 12/23/2016, 03:08 AM

Ok, I thought it could be pastel colours.. as it depends the dosing, but ok :-)

I will change the osmosis system membrane today, same for the 3 filters. Will do a bigger water change this time and dose Triton Detox during 3 days.

After that, will replace the zeo and carbon as I can't keep them during Detox and by the same time, will add GFO (Aquaforest) for silicon.

What do you think about this?

12/21/2016, 07:33 AM	#1
Zweebe Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Belgium Posts: 99	ATI ICP Test results: AF problems? Hey reefers! I just got my ATI ICP analysis and despite ATI don't warm me about some results, I have some question about those results that seems not good for some elements.. Here is the results I'm worried about: - Silicon 178.7 µg/l - Barium 74.78 µg/l - Nickel 1.60 µg/l - Copper 2.79 µg/l - Bismuth 2.09 µg/l - Chloride 16407 mg/l Some SPS start to fade since few months and that's why I did this ICP test. This could be the reason according you? I think my osmosis system membrane should be change despite it show me 0.00PPM. According to others members, this could be a problem coming from Aquaforest products as Energy seems to containt copper.. And When I think about that, it almost start when I start Amino, Energy, Build and Vitality. I'm using probiotic salt, NP Pro and Pro bio S + the 4 others products. A reactor with Zeomix and carbon is also running but without GFO. Can someone help me solved this problem as some SPS start to fade and are not healthy at all.. :/ Is Detox from Triton can help to remove those metals in a first time? Thanks

12/21/2016, 08:59 AM	#4
GoVols Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: VolNation Posts: 456	Already been addressed. http://166.78.194.232/forums/showthread.php?t=2606752 __________________ VFL Current Tank Info: 2013-RSM S-400 (Merlot) / BB / Mixed Reef / Lighting: Kessil AP700 with S-Series led bar / Bubble King 160 skimmer / GEO 2-Stage Cal Reactor with GLA dual-stage regulator / Teco TK-1000 Chiller & Heater / GFO & Purigen reactor's

12/21/2016, 07:48 AM	#2
ClearwaterUK Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Cheshire UK Posts: 77	Detox will remove Cu Barium is often coming from Phosphate absorbers GFO a change to Al based Po4 absorber will remove this Nickel and Copper can come from corroding electrical items or plated screws etc if the chloride is out look at your salinity Energy has a tiny amount of Copper Sulphate, I have been using this product over 6 months and have no Cu showing uo on ICP tests by TRITON or Aquaforrest

12/23/2016, 03:08 AM	#7
Zweebe Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Belgium Posts: 99	Ok, I thought it could be pastel colours.. as it depends the dosing, but ok :-) I will change the osmosis system membrane today, same for the 3 filters. Will do a bigger water change this time and dose Triton Detox during 3 days. After that, will replace the zeo and carbon as I can't keep them during Detox and by the same time, will add GFO (Aquaforest) for silicon. What do you think about this?