Can I add one more show fish?

Blizzard 123 · 08/13/2017, 07:30 PM

I am wondering if I can add one more show fish to my tank. I am looking for suggestions and if this will work thanks. My current stock consists of
Foxface
3 chromis
Pair of clowns
Pair of cardinals
Snowflake Moray
And I plan to add a yellow tang in the future.

Thanks

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Blizzard 123 · 08/13/2017, 07:41 PM

Oh and one of the most important parts it is a 100 gallons 26in tall 18wide and 48 long I believe

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billdogg · 08/14/2017, 05:48 AM

IMHO, a Leopard Wrasse (or pair) would be a great addition

ReefsandGeeks · 08/14/2017, 07:05 AM

I think you'll be fine adding another show fish. For a 100gallon tank with decent filtration you shouldn't have any issue with nutrients, and you'll have enough room in your tank as well.

Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 07:37 AM

Ok thanks I always wanted a leopard wrasse but always heard was hard to care for. I guess I will do it hard part now is trying to find which fish defentitly considering a pair now. Thanks

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 07:46 AM

Oh and could a leopard wrasse work with a crushed coral substrate

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 08:00 AM

Oh I am also liking the look of the mandarins could I do a pairs of those? Or any type of butterfly that would work? The tank has been established a long time

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 08:09 AM

Really what I am looking for is a nice colorful fish that swims a lot and can be seen. If you have any suggestions that would work with my tank it is much appreciated. I am already considering mandarin pair or leopard wrasse pair.

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 08:09 AM

Or perhaps so sort of butterfly fish and recommendations on these would be helpful thanks

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 08:20 AM

I also like the look of the kole tang but probably would not work with yellow?

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ReefsandGeeks · 08/14/2017, 10:05 AM

Unless you have a refugium, I wouldn't even consider a mandarin, and a pair in a 100 gallon tank isn't a good idea. They don't get large, or aggressive, but they need large mature tanks because they feed on tiny pods, so your pod populations must be great, and able to reproduce fast enough to support the mandarin, which feeds non-stop and only on live food. A refugium gives the pods a place to grow and breed, or if you had a 200+ gallon tank there would probably be enough room in the tank itself for them to sustain a mandarin. Beautiful fish though. That's the reason I don't have one...yet.

The kole tang with a yellow is risky I think. They may be find together, or may be aggressive. I have a yellow with a bristle tooth tank in my tank, and they are fine together. I consider myself lucky though.

AlSimmons · 08/14/2017, 10:47 AM

FWIW be careful with that Snowflake Morey eel. Not only are they great escape artists, but once it gets big the Chromis, the Clownfish and the Cardinals could all be on the dinner menu.

aznflyfisherman · 08/14/2017, 11:43 AM

I don't think a pair of mandarin will work the pod population probably won't be able to support two. But one mandarin should be fine

Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 12:17 PM

Yeah thanks for the help I think I have found a plan. I will try kole and yellow and possibly try one mandarin and get a hob refugiuim for him. Thanks for the help I think this will work. If I do get a mandarin how do I keep him in qt? And what if I find one that's already eating do I still need the refugium? Thanks for the help will notify if anything changes thanks again.

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 01:02 PM

Oh and about the eel he has escaped once already but I saved him I think the fish will be ok he is a pick eater. And already a pretty decent size thanks for the warning. I was worried about that too but he could swallow them now but he doesn't. I also feed him a lot usually till he is full to make sure he doesn't eat anything.

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hkgar · 08/14/2017, 01:03 PM

Do some research on keeping the Mandrin. Please.

AlSimmons · 08/14/2017, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blizzard 123

Oh and about the eel he has escaped once already but I saved him I think the fish will be ok he is a pick eater. And already a pretty decent size thanks for the warning. I was worried about that too but he could swallow them now but he doesn't. I also feed him a lot usually till he is full to make sure he doesn't eat anything.

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Ok, but that Mandarin could get eaten as well. Eels don't see very well and it only takes one stab in the dark to do a whole lot of damage. (if not worse) It's not so much what kind of a fish can I add to the tank as it is what kind of a fish won't become a meal IMO. Good luck!

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 01:26 PM

Thanks I am just hopping he doesn't eat any fish supposing he can eat most of them. Yeah I heard about how they cannot see well I do from a stick and I think he knows that's where the food comes. As I mentioned before he used to be really picky and hard to feed only ate certain cuts of squid but now he ayes shrimp too. Thanks again hopefully this all goes well.

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 01:39 PM

Oh and thanks for the article was a good and informative read learned a few things too.

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Blizzard 123 · 08/14/2017, 02:21 PM

Will do some research always do when adding a fish. Especially with this one considering it is a harder one. Thanks

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Hal · 08/15/2017, 05:09 PM

If not a reef tank, look at the pearl scale butterfly. It's stunning.

Joe0813 · 08/15/2017, 07:53 PM

good luck having a eel with smaller fish.... eventually they will be dinner. the mandarin will die in your tank due to not having enough pods.... even if you do get a HOB fuge until you can see pods on the glass it will probably starve to death. they eat thousands of pods a day.

Blizzard 123 · 08/15/2017, 09:01 PM

Yeah a lot of the butterfly's look amazing unfuturnetly I plan on adding corals so a lot of them are off my list I like them so much but so many are not safe. Well the tank is 15 years established and the eel is already big and takes no interest in the fish in fact today I saw my foxface swim right up to the eel and the ell came out and they just swam with each other for awhile. But i do see it possibly becoming a issue. He could eat them now but dose not even take interest in them so they might be ok and he is already a decent size. I have seen

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Blizzard 123 · 08/15/2017, 09:06 PM

Tiny things in my tank which I believe are some small crustaceans not sure which kind. If I did get a mandarin I would put some in at first to breed and wait. I would also keep adding pods durring feeding for him to snack on plus the ones in the fuge breeding. Oh the foxface and eel did not swim really just rest next to each other. Thanks for the help and warning will still do more research. Thanks

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Blizzard 123 · 08/15/2017, 09:10 PM

Oh and thanks for the butterfly suggestion it really was stunning now I wish I could have one even more.

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08/13/2017, 07:30 PM	#1
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Can I add one more show fish? I am wondering if I can add one more show fish to my tank. I am looking for suggestions and if this will work thanks. My current stock consists of Foxface 3 chromis Pair of clowns Pair of cardinals Snowflake Moray And I plan to add a yellow tang in the future. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 05:48 AM	#3
billdogg Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grove City, Ohio Posts: 10,806	IMHO, a Leopard Wrasse (or pair) would be a great addition __________________ I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer

08/14/2017, 10:47 AM	#12
AlSimmons Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: California Posts: 2,482	FWIW be careful with that Snowflake Morey eel. Not only are they great escape artists, but once it gets big the Chromis, the Clownfish and the Cardinals could all be on the dinner menu. Last edited by AlSimmons; 08/14/2017 at 12:22 PM.

08/14/2017, 01:03 PM	#16
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	Do some research on keeping the Mandrin. Please. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

08/15/2017, 05:09 PM	#21
Hal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 1,889	If not a reef tank, look at the pearl scale butterfly. It's stunning. __________________ Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. Current Tank Info: 250g starphire: 72x28x30, BeanAnimal drain with an oversized non-durso emergency drain, 4 inch DSB, 3x Reefbreeders Value LED fixtures, SWC/MSX 300A skimmer, Geo kalk reactor, 3 Vortechs w/bb, carbon reactor, and a RKL

08/13/2017, 07:41 PM	#2
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Oh and one of the most important parts it is a 100 gallons 26in tall 18wide and 48 long I believe Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 07:05 AM	#4
ReefsandGeeks Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,708	I think you'll be fine adding another show fish. For a 100gallon tank with decent filtration you shouldn't have any issue with nutrients, and you'll have enough room in your tank as well.

08/14/2017, 07:37 AM	#5
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Ok thanks I always wanted a leopard wrasse but always heard was hard to care for. I guess I will do it hard part now is trying to find which fish defentitly considering a pair now. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 07:46 AM	#6
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Oh and could a leopard wrasse work with a crushed coral substrate Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 08:00 AM	#7
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Oh I am also liking the look of the mandarins could I do a pairs of those? Or any type of butterfly that would work? The tank has been established a long time Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 08:09 AM	#8
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Really what I am looking for is a nice colorful fish that swims a lot and can be seen. If you have any suggestions that would work with my tank it is much appreciated. I am already considering mandarin pair or leopard wrasse pair. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 08:20 AM	#10
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	I also like the look of the kole tang but probably would not work with yellow? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 10:05 AM	#11
ReefsandGeeks Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,708	Unless you have a refugium, I wouldn't even consider a mandarin, and a pair in a 100 gallon tank isn't a good idea. They don't get large, or aggressive, but they need large mature tanks because they feed on tiny pods, so your pod populations must be great, and able to reproduce fast enough to support the mandarin, which feeds non-stop and only on live food. A refugium gives the pods a place to grow and breed, or if you had a 200+ gallon tank there would probably be enough room in the tank itself for them to sustain a mandarin. Beautiful fish though. That's the reason I don't have one...yet. The kole tang with a yellow is risky I think. They may be find together, or may be aggressive. I have a yellow with a bristle tooth tank in my tank, and they are fine together. I consider myself lucky though.

08/14/2017, 11:43 AM	#13
aznflyfisherman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 957	I don't think a pair of mandarin will work the pod population probably won't be able to support two. But one mandarin should be fine

08/14/2017, 12:17 PM	#14
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Yeah thanks for the help I think I have found a plan. I will try kole and yellow and possibly try one mandarin and get a hob refugiuim for him. Thanks for the help I think this will work. If I do get a mandarin how do I keep him in qt? And what if I find one that's already eating do I still need the refugium? Thanks for the help will notify if anything changes thanks again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 01:02 PM	#15
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Oh and about the eel he has escaped once already but I saved him I think the fish will be ok he is a pick eater. And already a pretty decent size thanks for the warning. I was worried about that too but he could swallow them now but he doesn't. I also feed him a lot usually till he is full to make sure he doesn't eat anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 01:26 PM	#18
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Thanks I am just hopping he doesn't eat any fish supposing he can eat most of them. Yeah I heard about how they cannot see well I do from a stick and I think he knows that's where the food comes. As I mentioned before he used to be really picky and hard to feed only ate certain cuts of squid but now he ayes shrimp too. Thanks again hopefully this all goes well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 01:39 PM	#19
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Oh and thanks for the article was a good and informative read learned a few things too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 02:21 PM	#20
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Will do some research always do when adding a fish. Especially with this one considering it is a harder one. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/15/2017, 07:53 PM	#22
Joe0813 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston strong Posts: 2,766	good luck having a eel with smaller fish.... eventually they will be dinner. the mandarin will die in your tank due to not having enough pods.... even if you do get a HOB fuge until you can see pods on the glass it will probably starve to death. they eat thousands of pods a day. __________________ Joe and Jenny Current Tank Info: 180 reef

08/15/2017, 09:01 PM	#23
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Yeah a lot of the butterfly's look amazing unfuturnetly I plan on adding corals so a lot of them are off my list I like them so much but so many are not safe. Well the tank is 15 years established and the eel is already big and takes no interest in the fish in fact today I saw my foxface swim right up to the eel and the ell came out and they just swam with each other for awhile. But i do see it possibly becoming a issue. He could eat them now but dose not even take interest in them so they might be ok and he is already a decent size. I have seen Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/15/2017, 09:06 PM	#24
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Tiny things in my tank which I believe are some small crustaceans not sure which kind. If I did get a mandarin I would put some in at first to breed and wait. I would also keep adding pods durring feeding for him to snack on plus the ones in the fuge breeding. Oh the foxface and eel did not swim really just rest next to each other. Thanks for the help and warning will still do more research. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08/15/2017, 09:10 PM	#25
Blizzard 123 Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 300	Oh and thanks for the butterfly suggestion it really was stunning now I wish I could have one even more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk