T5 lamp PAR readings - Page 5

atf72 · 09/05/2006, 08:44 PM

Thanks for the good work grim.

Can you recommend a 4- bulb (overdriven) combination to be used with 220 watts of VHO super actinic, resulting in a 14-20k look? I have a 20" deep tank mixed with sps and lps. I think I am going to ditch the 2 175 watt 20k halides, but want to keep color in the acros and not fry the acans on the bottom.

Thanks!

The Grim Reefer · 09/05/2006, 08:59 PM

I think a UVL Aquasun, ATI Aquablue and 2 ATI blue Pluses would be the best place to start.

anin · 09/05/2006, 09:20 PM

Hey Grim

I am a newbie and just joined reefcentral and I did some searching on lighting but would like to get a more precise answer from you. I have a 75g aga 48x18x20 tank, right now, im just cycling 45lbs of fiji rocks. In the future, I would like to have some softies along with sps/lps and clams. From my seach, I think I should go with the 48" tek hood from reefgeek. Should I go with 6 or 8 blubs? Will this be adequate for clams n hard corals? Also, I wanted a more blue look, like a 14k or 20k metal halide. Thanks in advance

my2girls · 09/05/2006, 09:38 PM

Welcome to Reef Central!!! I have a 75 gallon tank and a TEK 6 bulb hood fits perfectly. You have an inch or 2 to get your hands into the tank.

anin · 09/05/2006, 09:42 PM

thx my2girls, so what bulb configuration do you have? also, heres a very dump question i think..So do you guys also use timers to replicate 24hours, also how would you do that with a different variety of bulbs?

The Grim Reefer · 09/05/2006, 10:19 PM

Do this

Front

UVL Super Actinic
ATI Blue Plus
UVL Aquasun
ATI Aquablue
UVL Super Actinic
Ati Blue Plus

The First and last lamp should be on one cord so you time those on first, say at 10AM, Add the next 4 lamps at say 11 or noon. Then reverse things at 8 or 9PM.

anin · 09/07/2006, 07:56 PM

A big thumbs up to The Grim Reefer for answering my questions so fast..Thx alot man

jerry11901 · 09/07/2006, 08:46 PM

Hallo every one .I am looking to buy online, T5 Actinic/Blue Plus bulbs for my 36 inch set .What web side do you recommend?

raynist · 09/07/2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerry11901
Hallo every one .I am looking to buy online, T5 Actinic/Blue Plus bulbs for my 36 inch set .What web side do you recommend?

www.reefgeek.com

jerry11901 · 09/08/2006, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raynist
www.reefgeek.com

Thank you raynist but the size I need 34 inch, is not available, looks like sold out.
Any other stores?

raynist · 09/08/2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerry11901
Thank you raynist but the size I need 34 inch, is not available, looks like sold out.
Any other stores?

www.saltycritter.com carries the UV Lighting Super Actinic.

TandN · 09/08/2006, 07:18 AM

premiumaquatics .com

TandN · 09/08/2006, 07:19 AM

Hey does anyone here use the red T5 bulb i just read on another site about someone asking aboutit and I never knew they had one
Any info on this ????

raynist · 09/08/2006, 07:44 AM

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R33f3r · 09/08/2006, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tanya72806
Hey does anyone here use the red T5 bulb i just read on another site about someone asking aboutit and I never knew they had one
Any info on this ????

Which red bulb? The osram model 60?

TandN · 09/08/2006, 10:02 AM

I dont know which one i dont know how many diffrent ones there are thats why im asking lol

crvz · 09/08/2006, 10:17 AM

i could surely use some advice. i am currently overdriving the following bulbs (39W) on 2 icecap 660's (3 bulbs on each ballast). i dont remember the order specifically, but the bulbs are;

UVL AquaSun (10K)
UVL Actinic White (12K) x2
Giessemann AquaBlue (11K)
Giessemann Blue Plus x2

Couple questions;
1) I feel its a little too yellow (i dont like the UVL AquaSun), so I would like to replace it with another AquaBlue. I think i want to have an overall 14K color appearance (when compared to MH), so is this the right direction to go to achieve this?

2) Do i get more usable light (PAR) due to overdriving the bulbs? I dont really understand how that works.

3) I am upgrading tanks, from a 58 (3ft) to a 150 (5ft). I intend to run the 54W 4ft bulbs over the tank (6 or 7 bulbs). I do keep SPS corals, and I feel this is plenty of light. Anyone else have opinions?

Thanks!

raynist · 09/08/2006, 10:20 AM

You have 4 whiteish bulbs and 2 actininc. Try adding another Blue Plus, they have almost as much par as the the white bulbs and will give you a bluer look.

You do get more PAR by overdriving. I think Grim found it was 30% more.

--Ray

The Grim Reefer · 09/08/2006, 02:24 PM

I'd lose an actinic white for a blue plus and see what you end up with.

ryan115 · 09/09/2006, 07:06 AM

where else, besides reefgeek and premiumaquatics, carry ATI 39w bulbs?
Reef geek is out of the 39w ATI's and Premaqua is like $7 more than reefgeek.

banditfl · 09/09/2006, 07:22 AM

check here: http://www.dtpetsupplies.com/~dtpets...9ffdec8c87ab15 But again more than Reef Geek

HowardW · 09/09/2006, 10:32 AM

<<< 1) I feel its a little too yellow (i dont like the UVL AquaSun), >>>

Really? I really like the Aquasun T5 bulb, it has a good PAR rating, isn't as pink looking as the Actinic White, and doesn't seem to wash everything out like the Giesemann Aquablue bulb does. I think the Aquasun looks good in combination with either the B+ or the SA bulb too. All a matter of opinion I guess :-)

boyohboy2 · 09/12/2006, 07:43 PM

Anyone heard of or seen a "ATI Actinic Blue" T5 bulbs?

Was in a sw store in the weekend.... saw all the D&D bulbs, and newly instock ATI bulbs.... had the "Aquablue Special" & "Blue Plus" which we see normally. Then there were a few ATI labbelled (on the bulbs no less) "Actinic Blue". I asked the store and they had no clue what spectrum those are either.

The Grim Reefer · 09/12/2006, 08:36 PM

420 nm actinic. They are good when ran with blueplus but the UVL actinic is better by a tad.

aeroaustin · 09/12/2006, 09:03 PM

Grim,

Just need your opinion about bulbs for T5, I just need your feedback, for my tank i have 4x54 watts for 37 tank, don't ask me about that is light is too big for tank, my wife got it to surprised me and she don't know what is size.. so anyway, I like to keep 4x54 watts for future to move to bigger size.

I am planning to have clam, SPS and corals. what the bulbs are good for this, two ballasts with dusk and dawn. I already have GE 6700 because I use this to aligm the bulbs to set up for canopy.

Sometimes, I tend to change my mind about bulbs so I need someone to mention then I will stop and buy it.

09/05/2006, 08:59 PM	#102
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	I think a UVL Aquasun, ATI Aquablue and 2 ATI blue Pluses would be the best place to start. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

09/05/2006, 09:38 PM	#104
my2girls Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Hartford, CT Posts: 2,293	Welcome to Reef Central!!! I have a 75 gallon tank and a TEK 6 bulb hood fits perfectly. You have an inch or 2 to get your hands into the tank. __________________ Always downsizing...

09/05/2006, 10:19 PM	#106
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	Do this Front UVL Super Actinic ATI Blue Plus UVL Aquasun ATI Aquablue UVL Super Actinic Ati Blue Plus The First and last lamp should be on one cord so you time those on first, say at 10AM, Add the next 4 lamps at say 11 or noon. Then reverse things at 8 or 9PM. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

09/08/2006, 07:44 AM	#114
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09/08/2006, 10:17 AM	#117
crvz Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: houstonia Posts: 7,989	i could surely use some advice. i am currently overdriving the following bulbs (39W) on 2 icecap 660's (3 bulbs on each ballast). i dont remember the order specifically, but the bulbs are; UVL AquaSun (10K) UVL Actinic White (12K) x2 Giessemann AquaBlue (11K) Giessemann Blue Plus x2 Couple questions; 1) I feel its a little too yellow (i dont like the UVL AquaSun), so I would like to replace it with another AquaBlue. I think i want to have an overall 14K color appearance (when compared to MH), so is this the right direction to go to achieve this? 2) Do i get more usable light (PAR) due to overdriving the bulbs? I dont really understand how that works. 3) I am upgrading tanks, from a 58 (3ft) to a 150 (5ft). I intend to run the 54W 4ft bulbs over the tank (6 or 7 bulbs). I do keep SPS corals, and I feel this is plenty of light. Anyone else have opinions? Thanks! __________________ -Chris- You don't win friends with salad. "Look! They're trying to learn for free!" ... "Use your phony guns as clubs!" Current Tank Info: rectangluar? wet?

09/05/2006, 08:44 PM	#101
atf72 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 210	Thanks for the good work grim. Can you recommend a 4- bulb (overdriven) combination to be used with 220 watts of VHO super actinic, resulting in a 14-20k look? I have a 20" deep tank mixed with sps and lps. I think I am going to ditch the 2 175 watt 20k halides, but want to keep color in the acros and not fry the acans on the bottom. Thanks!

09/05/2006, 09:20 PM	#103
anin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 184	Hey Grim I am a newbie and just joined reefcentral and I did some searching on lighting but would like to get a more precise answer from you. I have a 75g aga 48x18x20 tank, right now, im just cycling 45lbs of fiji rocks. In the future, I would like to have some softies along with sps/lps and clams. From my seach, I think I should go with the 48" tek hood from reefgeek. Should I go with 6 or 8 blubs? Will this be adequate for clams n hard corals? Also, I wanted a more blue look, like a 14k or 20k metal halide. Thanks in advance

09/05/2006, 09:42 PM	#105
anin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 184	thx my2girls, so what bulb configuration do you have? also, heres a very dump question i think..So do you guys also use timers to replicate 24hours, also how would you do that with a different variety of bulbs?

09/07/2006, 07:56 PM	#107
anin Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 184	A big thumbs up to The Grim Reefer for answering my questions so fast..Thx alot man

09/07/2006, 08:46 PM	#108
jerry11901 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Long Island N.Y. Posts: 167	Hallo every one .I am looking to buy online, T5 Actinic/Blue Plus bulbs for my 36 inch set .What web side do you recommend?

09/08/2006, 07:18 AM	#112
TandN Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,009	premiumaquatics .com

09/08/2006, 07:19 AM	#113
TandN Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,009	Hey does anyone here use the red T5 bulb i just read on another site about someone asking aboutit and I never knew they had one Any info on this ????

09/08/2006, 10:02 AM	#116
TandN Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,009	I dont know which one i dont know how many diffrent ones there are thats why im asking lol

09/08/2006, 10:20 AM	#118
raynist Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,921	You have 4 whiteish bulbs and 2 actininc. Try adding another Blue Plus, they have almost as much par as the the white bulbs and will give you a bluer look. You do get more PAR by overdriving. I think Grim found it was 30% more. --Ray

09/08/2006, 02:24 PM	#119
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	I'd lose an actinic white for a blue plus and see what you end up with. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

09/09/2006, 07:06 AM	#120
ryan115 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ocean Springs, MS Posts: 753	where else, besides reefgeek and premiumaquatics, carry ATI 39w bulbs? Reef geek is out of the 39w ATI's and Premaqua is like $7 more than reefgeek.

09/09/2006, 07:22 AM	#121
banditfl Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 324	check here: http://www.dtpetsupplies.com/~dtpets...9ffdec8c87ab15 But again more than Reef Geek __________________ Successful Bubble Algae Farmer. Current Tank Info: 75g Mixed Reef (under development), 30g softie w/20l frag tank, and the original 6g nano (the one the sarted it all)

09/09/2006, 10:32 AM	#122
HowardW Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 1,763	<<< 1) I feel its a little too yellow (i dont like the UVL AquaSun), >>> Really? I really like the Aquasun T5 bulb, it has a good PAR rating, isn't as pink looking as the Actinic White, and doesn't seem to wash everything out like the Giesemann Aquablue bulb does. I think the Aquasun looks good in combination with either the B+ or the SA bulb too. All a matter of opinion I guess :-) __________________ Florida live rock addict

09/12/2006, 07:43 PM	#123
boyohboy2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 138	Anyone heard of or seen a "ATI Actinic Blue" T5 bulbs? Was in a sw store in the weekend.... saw all the D&D bulbs, and newly instock ATI bulbs.... had the "Aquablue Special" & "Blue Plus" which we see normally. Then there were a few ATI labbelled (on the bulbs no less) "Actinic Blue". I asked the store and they had no clue what spectrum those are either.

09/12/2006, 08:36 PM	#124
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	420 nm actinic. They are good when ran with blueplus but the UVL actinic is better by a tad. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

09/12/2006, 09:03 PM	#125
aeroaustin Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 134	Grim, Just need your opinion about bulbs for T5, I just need your feedback, for my tank i have 4x54 watts for 37 tank, don't ask me about that is light is too big for tank, my wife got it to surprised me and she don't know what is size.. so anyway, I like to keep 4x54 watts for future to move to bigger size. I am planning to have clam, SPS and corals. what the bulbs are good for this, two ballasts with dusk and dawn. I already have GE 6700 because I use this to aligm the bulbs to set up for canopy. Sometimes, I tend to change my mind about bulbs so I need someone to mention then I will stop and buy it.