Regal Angel Primer - Page 171

alton · 04/25/2016, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by carrots

Sorry to hear about your regal Alton. My regal came from Quality Marine. Other than flukes she came in clean. My LFS gets all their regals from them and has had great success with QM.

Carrots was yours one of the recent Regals offered up by QM? And was it Red Sea? Most of my fish have come from QM in the past with great success, but here recently I have issues with a previous Blueface and now this Regal.

GimpyFin · 04/25/2016, 10:20 AM

My Maldivian from DD just died on Saturday (Day 8 in QT.) He was eating up to the day before and seemed to be doing fine otherwise. Was really hoping he would work out.

carrots · 04/25/2016, 01:25 PM

I have an Indian Ocean Regal from Q.M. I have an order in for small 2.5-3" Red Sea but keep being told that there are only 5-6" available. Most Indian Ocean are coming into my LFS (Aqua Studios in Millburn NJ) from Q.M. around 4'' size.

ThRoewer · 04/25/2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alton

I lost my South Asia Yellow Belly on day 15, although it had not eaten prepared foods this tank is loaded with copods, amphlipods, and algae. It still looked very fat and in good shape when I took it out of the tank. The fish came from Quality Marine through my LFS, I wonder how everyone else has fared recently with there Yellow Bellys coming from LA/DD and Quality Marine? All my Redsea Regals coming from QM have always done very well, even the one that took 4 weeks to start eating.

Sorry for your loss. Do you think its death was cyanide related?

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Originally Posted by carrots

I have an Indian Ocean Regal from Q.M. I have an order in for small 2.5-3" Red Sea but keep being told that there are only 5-6" available. Most Indian Ocean are coming into my LFS (Aqua Studios in Millburn NJ) from Q.M. around 4'' size.

The issue with the small ones is that they usually hide in the rocks.
So the catchers either need to trick them to come out or use narcotics (usually cyanide).

alton · 04/25/2016, 02:06 PM

I am not sure, I wish they would develop or use the existing test for it? What was strange was how many 2 1/2" to 4" Yellow belly non redsea regal's with the juvenile spot came on the market just recently

alton · 04/25/2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by carrots

I have an Indian Ocean Regal from Q.M. I have an order in for small 2.5-3" Red Sea but keep being told that there are only 5-6" available. Most Indian Ocean are coming into my LFS (Aqua Studios in Millburn NJ) from Q.M. around 4'' size.

5 to 6" are almost always available through my LFS, Michael at NYAquatics gets the smaller ones in sometimes, the last one went for $299 plus shipping.

carrots · 04/25/2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GimpyFin

My Maldivian from DD just died on Saturday (Day 8 in QT.) He was eating up to the day before and seemed to be doing fine otherwise. Was really hoping he would work out.

Sorry to hear of another regal passing. No symptoms, just up and died in QT? Using any meds. that might have contributed to his death?

ThRoewer · 04/25/2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alton

I am not sure, I wish they would develop or use the existing test for it? What was strange was how many 2 1/2" to 4" Yellow belly non redsea regal's with the juvenile spot came on the market just recently

Is there a test to tell if a fish was caught with cyanide?
How would that work and would it be available to everyone?

The conundrum is that the juveniles clearly adopt better to captivity, yet are largely caught with cyanide which may kill them later down the road.
It seems this bad habit has by now also spread to the Maldives.

The issue with cyanide is that it can kill a fish instantly, within a couple of weeks or after a couple of months, maybe even years later - it all depends on the dosage the fish got and if they did a detox afterwards or just shipped it off without.

alton · 04/25/2016, 02:36 PM

I thought at one time there was an article about testing the water the fish came in with? I will see if I can find it.

alton · 04/25/2016, 02:37 PM

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog...a-game-changer

ThRoewer · 04/25/2016, 02:41 PM

Yeah, found that too, but it's not a practical test and the not that "exporting countries should export all of their fish in synthetic seawater as natural seawater can have detectable levels of thiocyanate in it leading to false positives with this testing protocol" basically makes it a useless test.

alton · 04/25/2016, 02:43 PM

Darn can't you ever post good news?

GimpyFin · 04/25/2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by carrots

Sorry to hear of another regal passing. No symptoms, just up and died in QT? Using any meds. that might have contributed to his death?

Thanks. Yeah, it was a bummer. No symptoms either. He looked good and was swimming and eating well with different food types. No meds in the tank, just a bare bottom QT (Cycled) with some rock, a heater, a couple powerheads, and a couple PVC tubes. Tested water parameters regularly and everything remained solid.

scuzy · 04/25/2016, 04:36 PM

pick her up today. Eating mysis at shop. Lets see how she does.

ThRoewer I got her from Aquatic collections. Fingers cross.

ThRoewer · 04/25/2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scuzy

pick her up today. Eating mysis at shop. Lets see how she does.

ThRoewer I got her from Aquatic collections. Fingers cross.

I saw that one. I would watch out for flukes or ich as it was doing some head shaking.

I still have 5 out of 7 I bought there, and the first I lost was a super tiny one on which I skipped the formalin dip (I wouldn't do that ever again). So chances are not too bad.

BTW, they just sold a tiny Philippine regal and still had a small juvenile last Saturday. Was that still around today?

scuzy · 04/25/2016, 09:22 PM

I am having it in formalin dip and into ttm

scuzy · 04/25/2016, 09:22 PM

I saw a really small one there for 50 is that the one?

Salty150 · 04/25/2016, 09:41 PM

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I am having it in formalin dip and into ttm

Doesn't TTM stress these fish?

Moving this fish 4 times, 1 time every 3 days, is STRESSFUL.

ThRoewer · 04/25/2016, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scuzy

I saw a really small one there for 50 is that the one?

Yes (the first in the video), but they had one that was even smaller (the second in the video):

I took this video when I was there a week ago.

scuzy · 04/25/2016, 10:04 PM

That small one is gone. The way I see it if they don't survive a ttm they won't survive my tank. Got way too much money invested in fishes to have it bring diseases into my tank.

Salty150 · 04/25/2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scuzy

That small one is gone. The way I see it if they don't survive a ttm they won't survive my tank. Got way too much money invested in fishes to have it bring diseases into my tank.

You don't have to use the TTM...

Especially on these very delicate fish.

scuzy · 04/25/2016, 10:12 PM

Cp has killed a few fishes for me already don't like that or copper.

Salty150 · 04/25/2016, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by scuzy

Cp has killed a few fishes for me already don't like that or copper.

You don't use copper on Angelfish...

scuzy · 04/25/2016, 11:13 PM

What would you use for ich then?

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BigBlueTang · 04/25/2016, 11:15 PM

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What would you use for ich then?

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I agree with TTM.

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04/25/2016, 01:25 PM	#4253
carrots Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Mendham, NJ USA Posts: 395	Quality Marine I have an Indian Ocean Regal from Q.M. I have an order in for small 2.5-3" Red Sea but keep being told that there are only 5-6" available. Most Indian Ocean are coming into my LFS (Aqua Studios in Millburn NJ) from Q.M. around 4'' size.

04/25/2016, 02:41 PM	#4261
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Yeah, found that too, but it's not a practical test and the not that "exporting countries should export all of their fish in synthetic seawater as natural seawater can have detectable levels of thiocyanate in it leading to false positives with this testing protocol" basically makes it a useless test. __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/25/2016, 04:36 PM	#4264
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	Regal Angel Primer pick her up today. Eating mysis at shop. Lets see how she does. ThRoewer I got her from Aquatic collections. Fingers cross.

04/25/2016, 10:20 AM	#4252
GimpyFin Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,032	My Maldivian from DD just died on Saturday (Day 8 in QT.) He was eating up to the day before and seemed to be doing fine otherwise. Was really hoping he would work out.

04/25/2016, 02:06 PM	#4255
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	I am not sure, I wish they would develop or use the existing test for it? What was strange was how many 2 1/2" to 4" Yellow belly non redsea regal's with the juvenile spot came on the market just recently

04/25/2016, 02:36 PM	#4259
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	I thought at one time there was an article about testing the water the fish came in with? I will see if I can find it.

04/25/2016, 02:37 PM	#4260
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog...a-game-changer

04/25/2016, 02:43 PM	#4262
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	Darn can't you ever post good news?

04/25/2016, 09:22 PM	#4266
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	I am having it in formalin dip and into ttm

04/25/2016, 09:22 PM	#4267
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	I saw a really small one there for 50 is that the one?

04/25/2016, 10:04 PM	#4270
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	That small one is gone. The way I see it if they don't survive a ttm they won't survive my tank. Got way too much money invested in fishes to have it bring diseases into my tank.

04/25/2016, 10:12 PM	#4272
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	Cp has killed a few fishes for me already don't like that or copper.

04/25/2016, 11:13 PM	#4274
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	What would you use for ich then? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk