AlgaeFix Marine to control Hair Algae - Page 54

Thrashie · 08/25/2010, 07:39 AM

ok, dose 2 went in this AM, I notice a little die off in some spots already, but not en masse yet. (keeping fingers crossed)

zaitmi · 08/25/2010, 04:31 PM

My ammonia is 0 ppm. The tank smell has gone itself, might be activated carbon was running and did the job. What should i do now? My tank is well aerated though.

HighlandReefer · 08/25/2010, 04:38 PM

With no ammonia and odor problems, I would resume.

Y-Diver · 08/25/2010, 11:26 PM

I have a few rocks that are growing the dreaded HA! I put my first dose in tonight and hopefully this will take care of it without any negative effect on any of my SPS/LPS corals! Should I continue to run my skimmer?

Tyler

HighlandReefer · 08/26/2010, 07:03 AM

Tyler,

Thanks for sharing your experience with AF. You should continue to run your skimmer. It will help remove organic debris from your water collumn.

Y-Diver · 08/26/2010, 10:17 AM

Perfect! Thanks for the quick response and I will keep everyone posted!

Tyler

Thrashie · 08/26/2010, 05:22 PM

day 5, more noticeable die off since yesterdays 2nd dose. some of the algae is startin to look, fuzzy.

HighlandReefer · 08/26/2010, 05:25 PM

Alex_GT · 08/27/2010, 03:28 PM

Hello guys, well i was reading all of this, but i did not find an answer of my question, i had some cyano and i won my war over it but after that i got around the 90% of my tank covered by GHA, it killed my frogspawn and its totally incrusted in my candycane, well yesterday i gave the 11 dose to my tank, now i have around of the 98 % of my tank algea free i have a minor cyano outbreak and two ceriths dead not sure if it is a direct connection.

Now the problem, i was reading that after the 10 dose there is some problem with the inverts, but my candycane is still cover by GHA in fact the biggest last spot is on it, so that its why i dont want to stop dosing.

i have a derasa and its my master pice so do you think my clam could resist more doses? And why do you think i have not been able to kill the GHA on the candycane? I have sprayed it directly and there is no changes it is green and growing well not very fast but its still growing, i am afraid that if i suspend the AF i going to have a major outbrak again, so maybe someone with more experience could put me in the right direction

thanks a lot for any help

zaitmi · 08/28/2010, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlandReefer

With no ammonia and odor problems, I would resume.

Last night I just brushed my rocks inside the tank with a new toothbrush. Some Hair algae came out easily some didnt. The tank was looking pretty muddy.

Algaefix Freshwater is now converting most of my brown algae to green algae and on a couple of rocks deep brown/maroon algae(might be cyanos). Though I am finding the growth of hair algae a bit slower than earlier as now i also keep my window close for light issues.

I gave 7th dose of AF last night. Should i continue dosing or should i stop?

Tomorrow would be 15% water replacement. I will try to scrub the rocks and then siphon the water.

HighlandReefer · 08/28/2010, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex_GT

Hello guys, well i was reading all of this, but i did not find an answer of my question, i had some cyano and i won my war over it but after that i got around the 90% of my tank covered by GHA, it killed my frogspawn and its totally incrusted in my candycane, well yesterday i gave the 11 dose to my tank, now i have around of the 98 % of my tank algea free i have a minor cyano outbreak and two ceriths dead not sure if it is a direct connection.

Now the problem, i was reading that after the 10 dose there is some problem with the inverts, but my candycane is still cover by GHA in fact the biggest last spot is on it, so that its why i dont want to stop dosing.

i have a derasa and its my master pice so do you think my clam could resist more doses? And why do you think i have not been able to kill the GHA on the candycane? I have sprayed it directly and there is no changes it is green and growing well not very fast but its still growing, i am afraid that if i suspend the AF i going to have a major outbrak again, so maybe someone with more experience could put me in the right direction

thanks a lot for any help

I continued dosing AF for quite some time after 10 doses. The only negative effect I saw was it killed my chaeto. My clams did fine.

Why it kills the algae on rock etc. and not your candy cane is a good question.

HighlandReefer · 08/28/2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaitmi

Last night I just brushed my rocks inside the tank with a new toothbrush. Some Hair algae came out easily some didnt. The tank was looking pretty muddy.

Algaefix Freshwater is now converting most of my brown algae to green algae and on a couple of rocks deep brown/maroon algae(might be cyanos). Though I am finding the growth of hair algae a bit slower than earlier as now i also keep my window close for light issues.

I gave 7th dose of AF last night. Should i continue dosing or should i stop?

Tomorrow would be 15% water replacement. I will try to scrub the rocks and then siphon the water.

I would continue. The maroon color could very well be cyano, which AF may not control.

Neoz · 08/28/2010, 12:28 PM

The Third dose went in this morning and I will post more updated pictures in a few days. So far I have seen no bad effect on any corals or fish.

Updating pictures. This is after the 2nd dose took effect. Before and after pictures.

HighlandReefer · 08/29/2010, 06:15 AM

Dave,

Nice pics.

Neoz · 08/29/2010, 06:41 AM

Thanks Cliff, believe it or not they were all shot with my cell phone

No editing other then cropping and resizing them. Happy as hell with AF so far at this point.

The only downsize I seen so far is the little bit of smell caused from using AF. But well worth it for the results.

I did have one question, I have a very powerful skimmer on this 90 gallon. Did you skim wet or a dry skim? The first few days I was skimming very wet. But now I dialed back my skimmer to a more dry skim and waiting to see some results.

HighlandReefer · 08/29/2010, 07:10 AM

IMHO, the ideal skimming rate is in the middle between wet skimming & dry skimming. You want your skimmer cup to fill with some water but not so much that you need to empty it more than once per day.

Running a filter bag can help quite a bit for collecting the algae in the water column which has died or broken loose. The odor is most likely decaying algae.

Neoz · 08/29/2010, 09:54 AM

I agree that the odor is the algae that is evident when I empty my skimmer cup

. I was having to do that once per day.

Here are my thoughts and I could be way off base here let me know. I wanted to skim very wet to remove any dead or decaying algae and keep the spikes in the tank to a minimum. But in doing so will that remove more of the AE before it has a chance to work its magic? I took your advice and I'm skimming in the middle.

HighlandReefer · 08/29/2010, 10:04 AM

But in doing so will that remove more of the AE before it has a chance to work its magic?

AE?

Neoz · 08/29/2010, 10:45 AM

Crap I meant AF - AlgaeFix? True or not?

HighlandReefer · 08/29/2010, 11:14 AM

AlgaeFix will brake down quickly in a reef tank, within 24 hrs. Knowing this you will want to change tank water and try to remove algae about 24 hrs before a dose. This will give ample time for the AF to do its thing.

Neoz · 08/29/2010, 01:58 PM

One more note Cliff, Only the few pieces of new Marco rock I put in the tank are the ones getting all the algae. Is it possible the new rock itself is the source of the Phosphates? Because my 2 test kits read zero and I'm running High Capacity GFO in a reactor. I only feed a small small pinch of pellets every other day to the tank. Also changing 30 gallons a week of water out.
My tests
Mag - 1320ppm
Nitrate - Less then 5ppm
Ammonia - .15ppm
Calc - 430ppm
Alk - 7.2dkh going to raise this a little.

HighlandReefer · 08/29/2010, 04:30 PM

The rock could have some phosphate. If so it will leach out into the water column which would allow GFO to remove it. It's also possible that the pest algae are better adapted at colonizing the new rock surfaces then coralline algae.

michael.lemke · 08/30/2010, 07:49 AM

Should I continue to run my carbon and gfo during the treatment? I removed it during the 1st dose. I did notice a huge improvement within 18 hours. I did a small water change and 75% of the algae came off of the offending rock. (some branch rock I have that seems to leach something because it is the only place I get any problem algae)

HighlandReefer · 08/30/2010, 01:28 PM

HObbyists have successfully run carbon, GFO & dosed carbon sources while using AF. I don't believe it makes much difference IMHO.

I would at least continue the GFO and GAC fwiw.

michael.lemke · 08/30/2010, 06:36 PM

thank you!

08/25/2010, 07:39 AM	#1326
Thrashie Not a lowlife 25%'er Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Largo near IRB, FL Posts: 825	ok, dose 2 went in this AM, I notice a little die off in some spots already, but not en masse yet. (keeping fingers crossed) __________________ HELP! I've Fallen! and I can't get uuuhhhh....HEY! Nice carpet!! Current Tank Info: none! free at last!

08/25/2010, 04:31 PM	#1327
zaitmi Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 446	My ammonia is 0 ppm. The tank smell has gone itself, might be activated carbon was running and did the job. What should i do now? My tank is well aerated though. __________________ Current Tank Info : 10 Gallon Sumpless Tank, 3 "Live Sand Light kessil a80 Live Stock Info : 1 tomato clown

08/25/2010, 04:38 PM	#1328
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	With no ammonia and odor problems, I would resume. __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/26/2010, 07:03 AM	#1330
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	Tyler, Thanks for sharing your experience with AF. You should continue to run your skimmer. It will help remove organic debris from your water collumn. __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/26/2010, 05:22 PM	#1332
Thrashie Not a lowlife 25%'er Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Largo near IRB, FL Posts: 825	day 5, more noticeable die off since yesterdays 2nd dose. some of the algae is startin to look, fuzzy. __________________ HELP! I've Fallen! and I can't get uuuhhhh....HEY! Nice carpet!! Current Tank Info: none! free at last!

08/25/2010, 11:26 PM	#1329
Y-Diver Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 134	I have a few rocks that are growing the dreaded HA! I put my first dose in tonight and hopefully this will take care of it without any negative effect on any of my SPS/LPS corals! Should I continue to run my skimmer? Tyler

08/26/2010, 10:17 AM	#1331
Y-Diver Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 134	Perfect! Thanks for the quick response and I will keep everyone posted! Tyler

08/26/2010, 05:25 PM	#1333
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	__________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/27/2010, 03:28 PM	#1334
Alex_GT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 26	Hello guys, well i was reading all of this, but i did not find an answer of my question, i had some cyano and i won my war over it but after that i got around the 90% of my tank covered by GHA, it killed my frogspawn and its totally incrusted in my candycane, well yesterday i gave the 11 dose to my tank, now i have around of the 98 % of my tank algea free i have a minor cyano outbreak and two ceriths dead not sure if it is a direct connection. Now the problem, i was reading that after the 10 dose there is some problem with the inverts, but my candycane is still cover by GHA in fact the biggest last spot is on it, so that its why i dont want to stop dosing. i have a derasa and its my master pice so do you think my clam could resist more doses? And why do you think i have not been able to kill the GHA on the candycane? I have sprayed it directly and there is no changes it is green and growing well not very fast but its still growing, i am afraid that if i suspend the AF i going to have a major outbrak again, so maybe someone with more experience could put me in the right direction thanks a lot for any help Last edited by Alex_GT; 08/27/2010 at 03:38 PM.

08/28/2010, 12:28 PM	#1338
Neoz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,582	The Third dose went in this morning and I will post more updated pictures in a few days. So far I have seen no bad effect on any corals or fish. Updating pictures. This is after the 2nd dose took effect. Before and after pictures. __________________ Dave Live to Learn Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450 - currently in storage.

08/29/2010, 06:15 AM	#1339
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	Dave, Nice pics. __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/29/2010, 06:41 AM	#1340
Neoz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,582	Thanks Cliff, believe it or not they were all shot with my cell phone No editing other then cropping and resizing them. Happy as hell with AF so far at this point. The only downsize I seen so far is the little bit of smell caused from using AF. But well worth it for the results. I did have one question, I have a very powerful skimmer on this 90 gallon. Did you skim wet or a dry skim? The first few days I was skimming very wet. But now I dialed back my skimmer to a more dry skim and waiting to see some results. __________________ Dave Live to Learn Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450 - currently in storage.

08/29/2010, 07:10 AM	#1341
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	IMHO, the ideal skimming rate is in the middle between wet skimming & dry skimming. You want your skimmer cup to fill with some water but not so much that you need to empty it more than once per day. Running a filter bag can help quite a bit for collecting the algae in the water column which has died or broken loose. The odor is most likely decaying algae. __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/29/2010, 09:54 AM	#1342
Neoz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,582	I agree that the odor is the algae that is evident when I empty my skimmer cup . I was having to do that once per day. Here are my thoughts and I could be way off base here let me know. I wanted to skim very wet to remove any dead or decaying algae and keep the spikes in the tank to a minimum. But in doing so will that remove more of the AE before it has a chance to work its magic? I took your advice and I'm skimming in the middle. __________________ Dave Live to Learn Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450 - currently in storage.

08/29/2010, 10:04 AM	#1343
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	But in doing so will that remove more of the AE before it has a chance to work its magic? AE? __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/29/2010, 10:45 AM	#1344
Neoz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,582	Crap I meant AF - AlgaeFix? True or not? __________________ Dave Live to Learn Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450 - currently in storage.

08/29/2010, 11:14 AM	#1345
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	AlgaeFix will brake down quickly in a reef tank, within 24 hrs. Knowing this you will want to change tank water and try to remove algae about 24 hrs before a dose. This will give ample time for the AF to do its thing. __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/29/2010, 01:58 PM	#1346
Neoz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,582	One more note Cliff, Only the few pieces of new Marco rock I put in the tank are the ones getting all the algae. Is it possible the new rock itself is the source of the Phosphates? Because my 2 test kits read zero and I'm running High Capacity GFO in a reactor. I only feed a small small pinch of pellets every other day to the tank. Also changing 30 gallons a week of water out. My tests Mag - 1320ppm Nitrate - Less then 5ppm Ammonia - .15ppm Calc - 430ppm Alk - 7.2dkh going to raise this a little. __________________ Dave Live to Learn Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 450 - currently in storage.

08/29/2010, 04:30 PM	#1347
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	The rock could have some phosphate. If so it will leach out into the water column which would allow GFO to remove it. It's also possible that the pest algae are better adapted at colonizing the new rock surfaces then coralline algae. __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/30/2010, 07:49 AM	#1348
michael.lemke Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: greeley co Posts: 395	Should I continue to run my carbon and gfo during the treatment? I removed it during the 1st dose. I did notice a huge improvement within 18 hours. I did a small water change and 75% of the algae came off of the offending rock. (some branch rock I have that seems to leach something because it is the only place I get any problem algae)

08/30/2010, 01:28 PM	#1349
HighlandReefer Team RC Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highland, Maryland Entomologist Posts: 14,591	HObbyists have successfully run carbon, GFO & dosed carbon sources while using AF. I don't believe it makes much difference IMHO. I would at least continue the GFO and GAC fwiw. __________________ Cliff Babcock Intestests: Digital Microscopy; Marine Pest Control; Marine Plants & Macroalgae Current Tank Info: 180 g. mixed reef system

08/30/2010, 06:36 PM	#1350
michael.lemke Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: greeley co Posts: 395	thank you!

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