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Unread 04/16/2014, 08:12 PM   #1301
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Correction, it is oxidation reduction potential.


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Unread 04/17/2014, 07:00 AM   #1302
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Hello all, over my tank i have 6 hydra, 2 of em are hydra 52 and 4 are the regular one.

I control the light with a controller, not the director.

My settings: white 40 red 15 green 15 violet 40 uv 40 db 80 rb 80.

The tank is 576l (160cm long 60cm width and 60 cm deep)

I have mainly sps corals (montiporas and acros)

1 Any see any big flaws with my settings?
2 If i buy the director, can i control everything via my iphone? Or do i need to be able to have a real computer at my aquarium?

Really nice thread this :-)


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Unread 04/17/2014, 07:09 AM   #1303
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Hello all, over my tank i have 6 hydra, 2 of em are hydra 52 and 4 are the regular one.

I control the light with a controller, not the director.

My settings: white 40 red 15 green 15 violet 40 uv 40 db 80 rb 80.

The tank is 576l (160cm long 60cm width and 60 cm deep)

I have mainly sps corals (montiporas and acros)

1 Any see any big flaws with my settings?
2 If i buy the director, can i control everything via my iphone? Or do i need to be able to have a real computer at my aquarium?

Really nice thread this :-)
Your setting sound about right. Also how deep is you tank and how hight do you have you lights. Where you using leds before, and if so which?

YES . Fortunately for you, you are using an iPhone. So all you do is get the app and BAM. I Unfortunately , use droid so no app for me yet. I just use my wife's phone all the time now. Shes not a happy camper


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Unread 04/17/2014, 07:26 AM   #1304
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Your setting sound about right. Also how deep is you tank and how hight do you have you lights. Where you using leds before, and if so which?

YES . Fortunately for you, you are using an iPhone. So all you do is get the app and BAM. I Unfortunately , use droid so no app for me yet. I just use my wife's phone all the time now. Shes not a happy camper
I have my leds 20cm above water and my aquarium is 60cm deep.

No i had a Giessman ramp before with 8*80w t5

Ah its so good, thanks alot for that info. No vacation this summer, more fun things for the reef :-)


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Unread 04/17/2014, 07:41 AM   #1305
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Organic Redox Potential. it is how we read how clean the water is. the ability of the system to dissolve organics in the water. If I understand it correctly.

Yes and it is a good indicator that how much oxygen you have dissolved on the water.

As you post that your fish come back live in front of the pump. This looks to me that some time he had a lack of oxygen.

But if everything is fine. keep going.

I like to control everything I can so I can have rapid answers to some common problems I may have.

By the way, thanks guys for the kind comments on my tank.


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Unread 04/17/2014, 07:43 AM   #1306
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I was on the phone with AI last night because I could not get my director to ask me to update. They told me that they have not released it to all of them yet and within the next few days I should receive the update. So if anyone else has this issue, hang tight.


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Unread 04/17/2014, 07:44 AM   #1307
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I have my leds 20cm above water and my aquarium is 60cm deep.

No i had a Giessman ramp before with 8*80w t5

Ah its so good, thanks alot for that info. No vacation this summer, more fun things for the reef :-)

I would put them at 30cm from the water and increse the power accordingly so you will have more coverage with the same PAR you have now.


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Unread 04/17/2014, 07:59 AM   #1308
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I would put them at 30cm from the water and increse the power accordingly so you will have more coverage with the same PAR you have now.
Yes, good suggestion. Thanks!


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Unread 04/17/2014, 08:09 AM   #1309
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Hello fildur, those setting might be a little strong for a 125 gallon (Google converter) especially with 2 hydras 52's. If you buy a director, yes you can control it from a iphone


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Unread 04/17/2014, 11:04 AM   #1310
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Get an Apex controller with AWM module and be happy controling everything including the AI's over the internet, iphone, Android, etc.


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Unread 04/17/2014, 09:15 PM   #1311
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Ok I'm sure this has been asked, but...

I've got a 40breeder (16" tall) sps tank, with 2 Hydras 13" AWL (as suggested by AI). I ran acclimate mode for the last few weeks. 50% for a week, 30% the next, then 10%. Do these sound like good percentages?

White: 30%
Violet: 25%
Red: 10%
Green: 10%
D-Blue: 100%
Royal: 100%
UV: 10%

Scheduled from 3pm-7pm, with a 3hr ramp up/down time.


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Unread 04/18/2014, 12:29 PM   #1312
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Can you guys tell me anything about the fan? Is I supposed to run all the time? Mine doesn't seem to want to turn on. Is it only when it reaches a certain intensity? Had it at 100% and it isnt running it seems.

Please advise.


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Unread 04/18/2014, 03:37 PM   #1313
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New setting, want to try a bit more white but only for a little bit. See if I get more growth. I have some corals turning all green that shouldnt. My scc is all green. Po4 is .04 No3 is 2ppm. Not really that bad. So im gessing I need more light. However I dont want to raise it so much.let me know what yall think.


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Unread 04/18/2014, 04:02 PM   #1314
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Try a water change and or carbon. It will remove any yellowish color from the water and allow more light in.


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Can you guys tell me anything about the fan? Is I supposed to run all the time? Mine doesn't seem to want to turn on. Is it only when it reaches a certain intensity? Had it at 100% and it isnt running it seems.

Please advise.

The newer lights fan threshold seems to be higher than the earlier lights. I have one of each and my newer ones don't kick on unless they approach 120+ degrees.


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Unread 04/18/2014, 06:08 PM   #1316
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Ok I'm sure this has been asked, but...

I've got a 40breeder (16" tall) sps tank, with 2 Hydras 13" AWL (as suggested by AI). I ran acclimate mode for the last few weeks. 50% for a week, 30% the next, then 10%. Do these sound like good percentages?

White: 30%
Violet: 25%
Red: 10%
Green: 10%
D-Blue: 100%
Royal: 100%
UV: 10%

Scheduled from 3pm-7pm, with a 3hr ramp up/down time.

Hi Mike, that sound a bit aggressive to me on a tank that is shallow. What lights are you coming from? I would start off with acclimation @ 50% over 4 to 6 weeks just to be safe. The lights may be more powerful than you think.


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New setting, want to try a bit more white but only for a little bit. See if I get more growth. I have some corals turning all green that shouldnt. My scc is all green. Po4 is .04 No3 is 2ppm. Not really that bad. So im gessing I need more light. However I dont want to raise it so much.let me know what yall think.
Can't help but to think that your green color is from not enough UV.

As far as growth you PO4 looks a bit high and from what i read it can slow growth down by 50% + in studies.


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Unread 04/18/2014, 06:24 PM   #1318
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Can you guys tell me anything about the fan? Is I supposed to run all the time? Mine doesn't seem to want to turn on. Is it only when it reaches a certain intensity? Had it at 100% and it isnt running it seems.

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What is the room temp if it is cool or cold the fan may never come on.


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Unread 04/18/2014, 06:28 PM   #1319
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Get an Apex controller with AWM module and be happy controling everything including the AI's over the internet, iphone, Android, etc.

I love my Apex but there is something about having all your eggs in one basket that makes me nerves.


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Can you guys tell me anything about the fan? Is I supposed to run all the time? Mine doesn't seem to want to turn on. Is it only when it reaches a certain intensity? Had it at 100% and it isnt running it seems.

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You can test the fan by unplugging the light and plugging it back in. The fan should kick on when you first apply power for like 5-10 seconds.


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Try a water change and or carbon. It will remove any yellowish color from the water and allow more light in.
Sonic, i usually change about 15g of water every other week. Granted its a 62g tank so that almost 50% a month. Thinking of going weekly, but its to much of a pain to go get water every week. I was running carbon and gfo a few months back, but removed it because it was stripping my water dry of nutrient and the corals look pale as heck. I have now added GAC , since i added an rbta to the tank. Just in case. I have to say though, water looks CRYSTAL clear now. I mean i thought it did before , but wow.
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Can't help but to think that your green color is from not enough UV.

As far as growth you PO4 looks a bit high and from what i read it can slow growth down by 50% + in studies.
So you think i should up the uv? Cant say much about po4, since from all i have i have read 0.03 is perfect. Im at 0.04, so i don't know if that 0.01 of a difference will mater. Who know im not a reef chemist or biologist lmao.


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Hi Mike, that sound a bit aggressive to me on a tank that is shallow. What lights are you coming from? I would start off with acclimation @ 50% over 4 to 6 weeks just to be safe. The lights may be more powerful than you think.
I was think that, but my corals started to brown, which I took as not enough light. I used to run a 6 bulb t5 fixture about 6" AWL.

Front
Blue+
Blue+ (dawn/dusk)
Coral+
Actinic (dawn/dusk)
Blue+
Blue+

Dawn/dusk: 1pm-3pm
All lights: 3pm-7pm
Dawn/dusk: 7pm-9pm

I was trying to recreate this. What do you suggest? So far things are looking good with the current LED settings.


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I was think that, but my corals started to brown, which I took as not enough light. I used to run a 6 bulb t5 fixture about 6" AWL.

Front
Blue+
Blue+ (dawn/dusk)
Coral+
Actinic (dawn/dusk)
Blue+
Blue+

Dawn/dusk: 1pm-3pm
All lights: 3pm-7pm
Dawn/dusk: 7pm-9pm

I was trying to recreate this. What do you suggest? So far things are looking good with the current LED settings.
It is my understanding that browning is to much light. Anyone out there know?


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It is my understanding that browning is to much light. Anyone out there know?
Too much light, and corals should bleach. Not enough (or excess nutrients), and they develop excess zooxanthellae in order to maintain the level of energy needed. With the right amount of light, they'll shed the extra zooxanthellae that they depended on, and use the light/photosynthesis. (That's my understanding)


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Too much light, and corals should bleach. Not enough (or excess nutrients), and they develop excess zooxanthellae in order to maintain the level of energy needed. With the right amount of light, they'll shed the extra zooxanthellae that they depended on, and use the light/photosynthesis. (That's my understanding)
it's like a sun tan the more sun light the more tan.


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