Copperband Butterfly Primer - Page 32

TooManyHumans · 06/10/2016, 01:22 PM

Hi I've had my copperband around 4 months
Unfortunately I've had an out beak of ich and lost half my fish. Nightmare

I have moved remainder of fish to a quarantine tank and started treating with copper.

Elvis the cbb has never had a problem eating live brine and frozen mysis but these past 3 days in the qt tank and he has stopped eating.

Any ideas to get him back eating he never showed any signs of ich but moved him as a precaution.

I am also new to the hobby.

Thanks

Hal · 06/24/2016, 01:32 PM

Live blackworms. If a CBB won't eat them, it generally won't eat anything.

jminick2 · 06/24/2016, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TooManyHumans

Hi I've had my copperband around 4 months
Unfortunately I've had an out beak of ich and lost half my fish. Nightmare

I have moved remainder of fish to a quarantine tank and started treating with copper.

Elvis the cbb has never had a problem eating live brine and frozen mysis but these past 3 days in the qt tank and he has stopped eating.

Any ideas to get him back eating he never showed any signs of ich but moved him as a precaution.

I am also new to the hobby.

Thanks

mine wont eat anything except clams. He eats those right out of my hand he loves them.

TooManyHumans · 06/25/2016, 11:52 AM

Got him eating white and red worms
I can't get black worm in my lfs.

He still will not eat anything else but the trick that worked for me was to put the worms onto some rock in the QT tank then he ate them.
He would not even take them when floating in the water.

Now he can't eat enough of them.

He will not touch clams at the min.
Or even caviar

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orly20 · 07/14/2016, 01:04 PM

Hi

Might be a stupid question but is it possible to keep a regular Copperband with a Muelleri Copperband in the same tank?

Cavediver50 · 09/22/2017, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michellejy

My husband calls him Thong because he is skinny and likes to go in cracks.

That is hilarious..., has to be one of the funniest things I have read in a long time.... your rolling eyes helped too.... hehe

hogfanreefer · 09/22/2017, 08:03 PM

One of the ways I keep the more vigorous eaters from interfering with my CBB getting enough to eat is to hand feed him. If I put the food between my thumb and index finger with a little pressure, he is the only one that can get to it.

jjoos99 · 09/30/2017, 08:34 AM

has anyone been able to keep a cbb with a tube anemone? Are they good kept with a maxima clam? I am thinking since they love eating clams on half shells they might go after maxima.
thanks
Jeff

Cavediver50 · 09/30/2017, 12:29 PM

My CBB nips sometimes at my Featherduster. it instantly retracts...., I don't see any damage on it though. Probably because they are faster than light speed at closing....

Andrew D · 10/01/2017, 12:58 AM

My CBB decimated my featherduster population, both the small invasive kind and also the larger ornamental ones as well. He's left my tube anemone as well as my christmas tree worms alone though.

jjoos99 · 12/23/2017, 05:42 PM

looking at liveaquaria they have cbb from 4 different locations. Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines. the ausi one is too expensive at $200, so of the others which one will have the best chance of making it? I am alittle concerned about one getting bullied by my tangs, purple, powder blue, yellow. The purple is pretty aggressive towards my moorish idol.
thanks
jeff

Hal · 12/28/2017, 11:52 AM

I've always heard that the Aussies are the most robust. I presume the capture method is easier on the fish.

As far as the others, I've never heard of any difference. As long as it's eating, it should be fine. Cyanide catching has been greatly reduced from what it once was. Regardless, liveaquaria gives you the 14 day guarantee. That's usually enough.

I've had slightly better luck with the larger specimens. It could be just random chance, but I think that the larger bodies gives them a larger fat storage and more margin for error.

For food, I've always had the best results with live blackworms. PE brand mysis was my next best. I think the larger mysis that PE provides has more fat/protein than a smaller mysis. I've tried several brands and keep coming back to PE.

Just remember that CBB's can be outcompeted for food by other fish, e.g., tangs. I would target feed mine to make sure they got enough food. With my next CBB (tank is being setup after a cross country move where I sold all my fish), I'm looking at a special CBB feeder. Take a small piece of PVC pipe, cap both ends (glue one, pressure fit the other), and drill 1/4 inch holes all around the diameter near the bottom. Put the mysis inside and only the CBB's long nose can get to them. Hang on the side of the tank with a fishing line.

And yes, kiss any feather dusters good bye. A small price to pay for the CBB.

OrionN · 12/28/2017, 12:17 PM

Not only feather duster but worms in the rock and sand bed like Medusa worms and other worms. There will be wipe out too.

06/10/2016, 01:22 PM	#776
TooManyHumans Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 28	Hi I've had my copperband around 4 months Unfortunately I've had an out beak of ich and lost half my fish. Nightmare I have moved remainder of fish to a quarantine tank and started treating with copper. Elvis the cbb has never had a problem eating live brine and frozen mysis but these past 3 days in the qt tank and he has stopped eating. Any ideas to get him back eating he never showed any signs of ich but moved him as a precaution. I am also new to the hobby. Thanks Last edited by TooManyHumans; 06/10/2016 at 02:12 PM.

06/24/2016, 01:32 PM	#777
Hal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 1,889	Live blackworms. If a CBB won't eat them, it generally won't eat anything. __________________ Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. Current Tank Info: 250g starphire: 72x28x30, BeanAnimal drain with an oversized non-durso emergency drain, 4 inch DSB, 3x Reefbreeders Value LED fixtures, SWC/MSX 300A skimmer, Geo kalk reactor, 3 Vortechs w/bb, carbon reactor, and a RKL

06/25/2016, 11:52 AM	#779
TooManyHumans Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 28	Got him eating white and red worms I can't get black worm in my lfs. He still will not eat anything else but the trick that worked for me was to put the worms onto some rock in the QT tank then he ate them. He would not even take them when floating in the water. Now he can't eat enough of them. He will not touch clams at the min. Or even caviar)

09/22/2017, 08:03 PM	#782
hogfanreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,117	One of the ways I keep the more vigorous eaters from interfering with my CBB getting enough to eat is to hand feed him. If I put the food between my thumb and index finger with a little pressure, he is the only one that can get to it. __________________ DSA 155,Custom Trigger 42" sump/refugium, MP40 X2, MP 10 X 2, AI Hydra 52 X3, Apex controller, Tunze ATO Current Tank Info: DSA 155 gallon, mixed reef, SPS and wrasse dominant

10/01/2017, 12:58 AM	#785
Andrew D Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 356	My CBB decimated my featherduster population, both the small invasive kind and also the larger ornamental ones as well. He's left my tube anemone as well as my christmas tree worms alone though. __________________ 350G display, 700G system loaded with all kinds of neat stuff! Current Tank Info: 350G DT, 700G system including in-line mantis, anemone and frag tanks

07/14/2016, 01:04 PM	#780
orly20 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 185	Hi Might be a stupid question but is it possible to keep a regular Copperband with a Muelleri Copperband in the same tank?

09/30/2017, 08:34 AM	#783
jjoos99 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 796	has anyone been able to keep a cbb with a tube anemone? Are they good kept with a maxima clam? I am thinking since they love eating clams on half shells they might go after maxima. thanks Jeff

09/30/2017, 12:29 PM	#784
Cavediver50 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Montreal Posts: 25	My CBB nips sometimes at my Featherduster. it instantly retracts...., I don't see any damage on it though. Probably because they are faster than light speed at closing....

12/23/2017, 05:42 PM	#786
jjoos99 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 796	looking at liveaquaria they have cbb from 4 different locations. Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines. the ausi one is too expensive at $200, so of the others which one will have the best chance of making it? I am alittle concerned about one getting bullied by my tangs, purple, powder blue, yellow. The purple is pretty aggressive towards my moorish idol. thanks jeff

12/28/2017, 11:52 AM	#787
Hal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 1,889	I've always heard that the Aussies are the most robust. I presume the capture method is easier on the fish. As far as the others, I've never heard of any difference. As long as it's eating, it should be fine. Cyanide catching has been greatly reduced from what it once was. Regardless, liveaquaria gives you the 14 day guarantee. That's usually enough. I've had slightly better luck with the larger specimens. It could be just random chance, but I think that the larger bodies gives them a larger fat storage and more margin for error. For food, I've always had the best results with live blackworms. PE brand mysis was my next best. I think the larger mysis that PE provides has more fat/protein than a smaller mysis. I've tried several brands and keep coming back to PE. Just remember that CBB's can be outcompeted for food by other fish, e.g., tangs. I would target feed mine to make sure they got enough food. With my next CBB (tank is being setup after a cross country move where I sold all my fish), I'm looking at a special CBB feeder. Take a small piece of PVC pipe, cap both ends (glue one, pressure fit the other), and drill 1/4 inch holes all around the diameter near the bottom. Put the mysis inside and only the CBB's long nose can get to them. Hang on the side of the tank with a fishing line. And yes, kiss any feather dusters good bye. A small price to pay for the CBB. __________________ Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints. Current Tank Info: 250g starphire: 72x28x30, BeanAnimal drain with an oversized non-durso emergency drain, 4 inch DSB, 3x Reefbreeders Value LED fixtures, SWC/MSX 300A skimmer, Geo kalk reactor, 3 Vortechs w/bb, carbon reactor, and a RKL Last edited by Hal; 12/28/2017 at 11:58 AM.

12/28/2017, 12:17 PM	#788
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	Not only feather duster but worms in the rock and sand bed like Medusa worms and other worms. There will be wipe out too. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip