Easy quiet overflows!!!!! "The silencer" - Page 3

barnacle bill · 03/31/2005, 05:02 PM

the drains are under water inside of filtersocks.

TrojanScott · 03/31/2005, 05:50 PM

Bill.

I'm assuming it doesn't matter what size the pipe is, (no jokes please!) Mine is 1 1/4 inch. Do I need a 4 " PVC piece to glue to the cover, or will a 3" do the job? Does it matter?

TrojanScott · 03/31/2005, 05:52 PM

Oh, and one more thing.... make a standpipe? I hear that and think "DURSO" so it's just a friggin' pipe in your bulkhead, nothing more right? No holes in it, nothing?

barnacle bill · 03/31/2005, 05:57 PM

Yes no holes, just a pipe. Mine are 1.5" and i used a 4" pipe. 3" would probably work but 4" might be better.

TrojanScott · 03/31/2005, 06:12 PM

Cool, I'm gonna try it. I don't know if the 4" will fit, I'll check when I get home.

lossman · 04/01/2005, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by barnacle bill
the drains are under water inside of filtersocks.

Question on this.....Our drains are above the water, inside filtersocks. I thought the drains had to be above water to create the splashing that adds oxygen into the water. Forgive the question if it seems dumb. My husband is usually the one that does all the maint. on the tank, but I really would like to quiet ours down. It seems awfully loud.

Sally

sjm817 · 04/01/2005, 07:15 AM

Drains should be under the water by a couple of inches. Above the water makes too much noise.

TrojanScott · 04/01/2005, 02:57 PM

Mine is above water into a filter sock, but enclosed under the stand, I dont' think it makes much noise at all, but that's my opinion.

lossman · 04/01/2005, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sjm817
Drains should be under the water by a couple of inches. Above the water makes too much noise.

Wouldn't them being under the water cause resistance to prevent the water from not draining properly?

corb66 · 04/01/2005, 07:33 PM

did this work for anyone else?

barnacle bill · 04/04/2005, 03:40 PM

Underwater is better, and no it causes no problems.

mc-cro · 04/04/2005, 07:01 PM

Not flooding is great, but Im not sure a month or so qualifies and being tried and true. I like the idea, but Im not exaclty sure what keeps the critters out, Just the overflow teeth and lid?

What if you used a 2" coupler over a 1.5" drain pipe? That would be a small enough gap around the pipe to allow water, but nothing of significant size.

btw.. my tank is completely silent. I run a full syphon (just an open pipe under water) with emergency drain- a must.

sjm817 · 04/04/2005, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lossman
Wouldn't them being under the water cause resistance to prevent the water from not draining properly?

No.

tptram · 04/05/2005, 12:08 AM

bill
thank you for the effort and sharing
will try your idea this week end

thnx

barnacle bill · 04/05/2005, 05:20 PM

Your welcome!

lossman · 04/05/2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tptram
bill
thank you for the effort and sharing
will try your idea this week end

thnx

Right!! Me too.....as soon as I can figure out what size adapter to get to fit our sump, and as soon as I convince my DH that it just might work without flooding the house.........hmmmm....maybe I should just figure it out myself and do it while he is at work. hehehehehe

barnacle bill · 04/11/2005, 10:12 PM

bump

barnacle bill · 04/12/2005, 06:12 PM

Just wanted to post that the silencer is workin great still, and no floods! Hope others utilize this free and easy idea.

Peccavi18 · 04/13/2005, 05:23 PM

Will this work if you just have an elbow inside the tank no over flow "box"? Could I just epoxy the acrylic to the lip of the tank to hold the tube over the elbow? I just hooked my sump up last night and it was just constant burps and bubbles and noise, I have to quiet it.
And as a side note where does everyone get there filtersocks at? Do they work well for quieting down the sump, and elemating bubbles? thanks -peccavi18

lossman · 04/13/2005, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by barnacle bill
bump

As a newbie to forums (not to mention reef tanks) what does "bump" mean? Thanks

Peccavi18 · 04/13/2005, 06:41 PM

bump- is just a saying meaning a push to the top of the list you'll also see ppl say ttt (to the top) same thing-pecc

Fredfish · 04/13/2005, 07:01 PM

Too clever! The simplicity of simplicity never ceases to amaze me.

Fred.

Peccavi18 · 04/15/2005, 03:28 PM

I built this and glued it on my lip because I don't have an over flow "box" it really works when I have my flow turned way down but I have a mag12 and have it throttled down to what I'd equate to a mag7. When I turn it up it fills the tank and starts sucking real hard and then it sucks it down to the bottom of the tube, like if it had surged, or flushed. (would be a good surge device) I don't want to burn up my pump it's new. What would allow me to turn my flow up? If I made the hole a bit bigger? Bigger tube around the overflow?? It's 1 1/4" overflow with a 3" tube down around it. thanks-pecc

Neurosis · 04/15/2005, 07:26 PM

The yo-yoing effect of the water is due to an air hole that's too small. Either make the hole bigger or put another small hole into the top.

Homebrew · 04/15/2005, 07:57 PM

For those worried about this flooding, it really can't, unless your pump is already putting more water in the tank than the standpipe can drain, in which case ANY design implemented would flood. The standpipe is lower than the overflow and the bigger pipe on the lid is just keeping the entry of the standpipe effectively under the water a couple inches.

Nice design in that it also prevents salt creep and splash from the overflow and further dampens sounds by covering the entire overflow. I think I'll probably put this on my 2 new tanks (September or October... I'm a VERY patient person!).

Greg

03/31/2005, 05:02 PM	#51
barnacle bill Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eugene,oregon Posts: 317	No noise the drains are under water inside of filtersocks.

04/04/2005, 07:01 PM	#62
mc-cro (macro) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,238	Not flooding is great, but Im not sure a month or so qualifies and being tried and true. I like the idea, but Im not exaclty sure what keeps the critters out, Just the overflow teeth and lid? What if you used a 2" coupler over a 1.5" drain pipe? That would be a small enough gap around the pipe to allow water, but nothing of significant size. btw.. my tank is completely silent. I run a full syphon (just an open pipe under water) with emergency drain- a must. __________________ Time is the most valuable thing you have... spend it wisely Current Tank Info: 60x26x24 AGE 3 sided starphire

04/05/2005, 12:08 AM	#64
tptram Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: cowtown Posts: 21	bill thank you for the effort and sharing will try your idea this week end thnx __________________ always learning Current Tank Info: 135g fowlr w/ 75g sump; 105g reef sumpless; 18g nano w/ 29g sump

04/13/2005, 05:23 PM	#69
Peccavi18 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 349	Will this work if you just have an elbow inside the tank no over flow "box"? Could I just epoxy the acrylic to the lip of the tank to hold the tube over the elbow? I just hooked my sump up last night and it was just constant burps and bubbles and noise, I have to quiet it. And as a side note where does everyone get there filtersocks at? Do they work well for quieting down the sump, and elemating bubbles? thanks -peccavi18 __________________ "Due to recent budget restraints there no longer is a light at the end of the tunnel" Thank you-Managment Current Tank Info: 75gal, 140lbs lr, 120 lbs ls, 4x54 T5HO, 10gal refugium

04/13/2005, 06:41 PM	#71
Peccavi18 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 349	bump- is just a saying meaning a push to the top of the list you'll also see ppl say ttt (to the top) same thing-pecc __________________ "Due to recent budget restraints there no longer is a light at the end of the tunnel" Thank you-Managment Current Tank Info: 75gal, 140lbs lr, 120 lbs ls, 4x54 T5HO, 10gal refugium

03/31/2005, 05:50 PM	#52
TrojanScott Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 2,229	Bill. I'm assuming it doesn't matter what size the pipe is, (no jokes please!) Mine is 1 1/4 inch. Do I need a 4 " PVC piece to glue to the cover, or will a 3" do the job? Does it matter?

03/31/2005, 05:52 PM	#53
TrojanScott Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 2,229	Oh, and one more thing.... make a standpipe? I hear that and think "DURSO" so it's just a friggin' pipe in your bulkhead, nothing more right? No holes in it, nothing?

03/31/2005, 05:57 PM	#54
barnacle bill Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eugene,oregon Posts: 317	Yes no holes, just a pipe. Mine are 1.5" and i used a 4" pipe. 3" would probably work but 4" might be better.

03/31/2005, 06:12 PM	#55
TrojanScott Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 2,229	Cool, I'm gonna try it. I don't know if the 4" will fit, I'll check when I get home.

04/01/2005, 07:15 AM	#57
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	Drains should be under the water by a couple of inches. Above the water makes too much noise.

04/01/2005, 02:57 PM	#58
TrojanScott Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 2,229	Mine is above water into a filter sock, but enclosed under the stand, I dont' think it makes much noise at all, but that's my opinion.

04/01/2005, 07:33 PM	#60
corb66 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 55	did this work for anyone else?

04/04/2005, 03:40 PM	#61
barnacle bill Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eugene,oregon Posts: 317	Underwater is better, and no it causes no problems.

04/05/2005, 05:20 PM	#65
barnacle bill Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eugene,oregon Posts: 317	Your welcome!

04/11/2005, 10:12 PM	#67
barnacle bill Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eugene,oregon Posts: 317	bump

04/12/2005, 06:12 PM	#68
barnacle bill Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: eugene,oregon Posts: 317	Just wanted to post that the silencer is workin great still, and no floods! Hope others utilize this free and easy idea.

04/13/2005, 07:01 PM	#72
Fredfish Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,661	Too clever! The simplicity of simplicity never ceases to amaze me. Fred. __________________ Advice is like a firehose. Be careful how you drink.

04/15/2005, 03:28 PM	#73
Peccavi18 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 349	I built this and glued it on my lip because I don't have an over flow "box" it really works when I have my flow turned way down but I have a mag12 and have it throttled down to what I'd equate to a mag7. When I turn it up it fills the tank and starts sucking real hard and then it sucks it down to the bottom of the tube, like if it had surged, or flushed. (would be a good surge device) I don't want to burn up my pump it's new. What would allow me to turn my flow up? If I made the hole a bit bigger? Bigger tube around the overflow?? It's 1 1/4" overflow with a 3" tube down around it. thanks-pecc __________________ "Due to recent budget restraints there no longer is a light at the end of the tunnel" Thank you-Managment Current Tank Info: 75gal, 140lbs lr, 120 lbs ls, 4x54 T5HO, 10gal refugium

04/15/2005, 07:26 PM	#74
Neurosis Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: KCMO Posts: 399	The yo-yoing effect of the water is due to an air hole that's too small. Either make the hole bigger or put another small hole into the top. __________________ "We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl year after year." --Pink Floyd Current Tank Info: Oceanic 58RR, CoralVue 250w eBallast, Pendant & 14k bulb, EuroReef RS5-2, Mag 9 return, 1" SeaSwirl, Seio 620

04/15/2005, 07:57 PM	#75
Homebrew Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Near Charlotte, NC Posts: 423	For those worried about this flooding, it really can't, unless your pump is already putting more water in the tank than the standpipe can drain, in which case ANY design implemented would flood. The standpipe is lower than the overflow and the bigger pipe on the lid is just keeping the entry of the standpipe effectively under the water a couple inches. Nice design in that it also prevents salt creep and splash from the overflow and further dampens sounds by covering the entire overflow. I think I'll probably put this on my 2 new tanks (September or October... I'm a VERY patient person!). Greg __________________ If you live near Charlotte, NC, join the Reef Aquarium Society of Charlotte! Meetings are 3rd Saturday monthly. Click on my "little red house" above to check it out. Current Tank Info: 90g FOWLR aggressive and 30g reef