Zero Nitrates = Pastel Acros (dosing nitrates) - Page 10

sil40sx · 02/02/2017, 04:46 PM

Would it be safe to add the KNO3 to the ATO with kalkwasser? Or there would be an adverse reaction if mixed together?

organism · 02/02/2017, 04:49 PM

There would most likely be some chemistry issues, also the amount of nitrates you'd need to dose can vary pretty dramatically from day to day so it's not the best plan. imo nitrates on an autodoser or ATO is a recipe for disaster.

pga7602 · 02/02/2017, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SchnitzelReef

I pour 1/4tsp of powder right into my sump. It sits on the ledge where my filter socks would normally go, and it slowly mixes in. Been doing it this way since day 1. No issues. I still dose it weekly. Some times multiple times, sometimes once. Just depends how busy I am

This is what i was looking for.. the lazy way

evoreefer11 · 02/06/2017, 08:11 PM

Gonna start doisng....ill keep u guys updated

kevin.st · 02/08/2017, 01:55 PM

OK, I just bought some. My tank is almost a year old, mainly SPS with crap coloration.

pga7602 · 02/08/2017, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin.st

OK, I just bought some. My tank is almost a year old, mainly SPS with crap coloration.

Crap coloration as in pale or actual poop color? I think dosing nitrates will not help brown corals, but it will help if your corals are pale. Only way to tell for sure is to test for nitrates.

kevin.st · 02/08/2017, 02:24 PM

hahaha. I meant to say pale.

SchnitzelReef · 02/08/2017, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kevin.st

OK, I just bought some. My tank is almost a year old, mainly SPS with crap coloration.

Test nitrates frequently, as in daily.

evoreefer11 · 02/08/2017, 10:14 PM

My nitrates in 3 days of use has gone from 0 to about 3-4.....testing about 12 hrs adter dosage.

evoreefer11 · 02/08/2017, 10:15 PM

Skimmer is pulling out really dark green/black gunk now tho....oppose to before it was green but more of a clear liquid....

chiefifd · 02/09/2017, 12:31 PM

I should be receiving my KNO3 from NilocG Aquatics today.

I took my skimmer off line a month or so back in hopes of getting some nitrates in my 90 gallon DT. The tanks been running for about 2 years.

Should I resume skimming now or wait?

Staisman · 03/27/2017, 04:36 PM

I stripped my water with NoPox and lost many SPS due to have 0.0 nitrate in the tank. Adding tons of food just increased my phosphates but not nitrates. Just ordered KNO3. Hoping this will help.

dubmaneh · 03/27/2017, 04:42 PM

Great thread!
I did the same with N0P0x and am going to start dosing tech grade sodium nitrate. Does anyone know what the mixing rate for that would be?

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golfish · 03/27/2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dubmaneh

Great thread!
I did the same with N0P0x and am going to start dosing tech grade sodium nitrate. Does anyone know what the mixing rate for that would be?

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^^^^^^

This is a very interesting thread.

organism · 03/27/2017, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dubmaneh

Great thread!
I did the same with N0P0x and am going to start dosing tech grade sodium nitrate. Does anyone know what the mixing rate for that would be?

As a rough estimate, I put 5oz of reagent KNO3 into a 1L bottle then filled it with RO. It's around 1.5ppm increase for every 9ml in my 90 gallon... I don't remember exactly but it's easy to find if you dose 3ml, wait 20 minutes, and then test to see the change.

dubmaneh · 03/28/2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by organism

As a rough estimate, I put 5oz of reagent KNO3 into a 1L bottle then filled it with RO. It's around 1.5ppm increase for every 9ml in my 90 gallon... I don't remember exactly but it's easy to find if you dose 3ml, wait 20 minutes, and then test to see the change.

Thanks! I've started dosing NaNO3 to my tank tonight.

Any guidelines on the max you can raise NO3 in a 24period?

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bif24701 · 03/28/2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SchnitzelReef

Dosing nitrates has definitely helped my tank.

Where do you like to keep your NO3 and PO4? Do you also do any carbon dosing?

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FDAWG · 05/05/2017, 05:53 PM

Okay it's time for me to start Kno3 dosing. My nitrates have become undetectable and my acros are showing poor coloration and growth. Hope this helps.

Zik · 05/06/2017, 02:18 AM

So glad this thread got a bump. Placed my order and will begin once it comes in. I'll be sure to take some before and after pics

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Originally Posted by DamonG

I am having quite a bit of stn, so I'm a little noided.. But I've done all I can, and this is where I am at..

Do you have stn on new additions or older?

I usually have difficulty when they are first intruded, but think i had a number of things not going in my favor. Too strong dip with bayer, to not acclimating to my leds, to too much flow. I discovered that flow was a huge aspect to frags added to one particular place on my rock.
Changed that up finally

We'll see how dosing nitrates go!

cham · 06/16/2017, 07:56 AM

Great thread, I've been dosing it for a few weeks now and have certianly noticed a big difference in color.

One note, I did get a big case of RTN on sps when I first tried it about a year ago because I dosed too much, I assume I had high P04 and stripped it overnight stressing the corals.

I've also read that guys were still getting zero N03 after dosing for days/weeks. It seems to me that you shouldn't be looking for results via test kits, watch your tank for results and use the test kits to ensure you're not going over tolerance (above 5 to 10ppm in my opinion).

Also, after a time it seems that much like carbon dosing, you'll find that you need a higher dose initially and once you start building up to a healthy level of N03 you'll want to cut the dose down (possibly in half) to maintain levels

dannyfish · 06/16/2017, 10:01 AM

This is a great thread. I'm learning!

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dubmaneh · 06/19/2017, 01:57 PM

Definitely go slow. When I first started dosing I nearly nuked the tank with the instructions I left while I was away. Fast spike in nitrate killed 85% of my corals.

It was the speed of the change that did it as my nitrates had previously been 5x higher without issue.

Its been about 6 weeks since then. As I get P04 under control from the die off, I have been dosing nitrates to keep them between 1-5ppm. Corals are coloured nicely and showing signs of growth.

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All Delight · 04/17/2018, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FDAWG

Okay it's time for me to start Kno3 dosing. My nitrates have become undetectable and my acros are showing poor coloration and growth. Hope this helps.

how you like this product.

sus · 04/17/2018, 09:32 AM

Any updates on this schnitzel? You still dosing nitrates?

tprymek · 05/27/2018, 07:14 PM

Just reading this for the first time and was about to try dosing nitrate since I am at 0 with a Salifert kit and having pale coloration in my sps. Also has anyone with zoas seen any change in them? I have a few colonies which began struggling right about the time the sps lost color.

Would be good to hear from those that started dosing back when this thread was new.

My parameters on my 150 g with 29 g sump with cheto: alk 10.56 cal 485 mag 1395 salinity 1.026

02/02/2017, 04:49 PM	#227
organism code monkey Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: south bay Posts: 6,223	There would most likely be some chemistry issues, also the amount of nitrates you'd need to dose can vary pretty dramatically from day to day so it's not the best plan. imo nitrates on an autodoser or ATO is a recipe for disaster. __________________ I don't always grow frags... but when I do, I prefer Dos Acros

03/27/2017, 04:36 PM	#237
Staisman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: NY, Long Island Posts: 313	I stripped my water with NoPox and lost many SPS due to have 0.0 nitrate in the tank. Adding tons of food just increased my phosphates but not nitrates. Just ordered KNO3. Hoping this will help. __________________ My build (75 gal DT with 55 gal sump/refugium): http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2442383 Current Tank Info: 75 gal with 55 gal sump/refugium

06/16/2017, 07:56 AM	#245
cham Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winter Garden, FL Posts: 3,632	Great thread, I've been dosing it for a few weeks now and have certianly noticed a big difference in color. One note, I did get a big case of RTN on sps when I first tried it about a year ago because I dosed too much, I assume I had high P04 and stripped it overnight stressing the corals. I've also read that guys were still getting zero N03 after dosing for days/weeks. It seems to me that you shouldn't be looking for results via test kits, watch your tank for results and use the test kits to ensure you're not going over tolerance (above 5 to 10ppm in my opinion). Also, after a time it seems that much like carbon dosing, you'll find that you need a higher dose initially and once you start building up to a healthy level of N03 you'll want to cut the dose down (possibly in half) to maintain levels __________________ The more I learn about reefing the less I know. Current Tank Info: -SPS-120g Rimless Starfire, Garage sump/equip room with rimless frag tank, reefkeeper & Apex Jr, Reeflo Super Dart Gold return, ATI Powermodule, four Vortech MP40's, SRO XP3000 cone w/self cleaning head, two reefbrite LED, AF three part balling

05/27/2018, 07:14 PM	#250
tprymek Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 2	Updates Just reading this for the first time and was about to try dosing nitrate since I am at 0 with a Salifert kit and having pale coloration in my sps. Also has anyone with zoas seen any change in them? I have a few colonies which began struggling right about the time the sps lost color. Would be good to hear from those that started dosing back when this thread was new. My parameters on my 150 g with 29 g sump with cheto: alk 10.56 cal 485 mag 1395 salinity 1.026

02/02/2017, 04:46 PM	#226
sil40sx Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 686	Would it be safe to add the KNO3 to the ATO with kalkwasser? Or there would be an adverse reaction if mixed together?

02/06/2017, 08:11 PM	#229
evoreefer11 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 31	Gonna start doisng....ill keep u guys updated

02/08/2017, 01:55 PM	#230
kevin.st Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 151	OK, I just bought some. My tank is almost a year old, mainly SPS with crap coloration.

02/08/2017, 02:24 PM	#232
kevin.st Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 151	hahaha. I meant to say pale.

02/08/2017, 10:14 PM	#234
evoreefer11 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 31	My nitrates in 3 days of use has gone from 0 to about 3-4.....testing about 12 hrs adter dosage.

02/08/2017, 10:15 PM	#235
evoreefer11 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 31	Skimmer is pulling out really dark green/black gunk now tho....oppose to before it was green but more of a clear liquid....

02/09/2017, 12:31 PM	#236
chiefifd Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper Michigan Posts: 312	I should be receiving my KNO3 from NilocG Aquatics today. I took my skimmer off line a month or so back in hopes of getting some nitrates in my 90 gallon DT. The tanks been running for about 2 years. Should I resume skimming now or wait?

03/27/2017, 04:42 PM	#238
dubmaneh Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 271	Great thread! I did the same with N0P0x and am going to start dosing tech grade sodium nitrate. Does anyone know what the mixing rate for that would be? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

05/05/2017, 05:53 PM	#243
FDAWG Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, California Posts: 422	Okay it's time for me to start Kno3 dosing. My nitrates have become undetectable and my acros are showing poor coloration and growth. Hope this helps.

06/16/2017, 10:01 AM	#246
dannyfish Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: rosemead Posts: 391	This is a great thread. I'm learning! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06/19/2017, 01:57 PM	#247
dubmaneh Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 271	Definitely go slow. When I first started dosing I nearly nuked the tank with the instructions I left while I was away. Fast spike in nitrate killed 85% of my corals. It was the speed of the change that did it as my nitrates had previously been 5x higher without issue. Its been about 6 weeks since then. As I get P04 under control from the die off, I have been dosing nitrates to keep them between 1-5ppm. Corals are coloured nicely and showing signs of growth. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

04/17/2018, 09:32 AM	#249
sus Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arvada Colorado Posts: 606	Any updates on this schnitzel? You still dosing nitrates?