can salt water carry COVID19?

five.five-six · 04/05/2020, 09:33 PM

can saltwater animals carry and transmit COVID19? I think no but I really don't know.

Any ideas?

AdamSabina · 04/05/2020, 10:29 PM

Didn’t think about it. Seems unlikely with no host, but nice wet warm environment might mean day it can survive in the water?!?!? Maybe IDK. Any doctors want to chime in?

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five.five-six · 04/05/2020, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamSabina

Didn’t think about it. Seems unlikely with no host, but nice wet warm environment might mean day it can survive in the water?!?!? Maybe IDK. Any doctors want to chime in?

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I was going to trade some stuff and my wife was worried that the water or specimen could be a carrier. I started to tell her she was crazy, luckily almost 2 decades of marriage has taught me to slow my mouth, and I remembered that staff and flesh eating disease do well in tropical salt water.

ThRoewer · 04/06/2020, 12:44 AM

Fish-Tuberculosis (Mycobacterium) and Vibrio can infect humans.

However, fish have no lungs and therefore I would think it is rather unlikely that they can carry the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Corals and inverts are even less likely.
Also, saltwater has a certain sterilizing effect...

HumbleFish · 04/06/2020, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

However, fish have no lungs and therefore I would think it is rather unlikely that they can carry the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Corals and inverts are even less likely.
Also, saltwater has a certain sterilizing effect...

+1 The virus itself can probably live in water for a short time, but fish are not suitable hosts.

This is interesting: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...2Fanimals.html

ThRoewer · 04/06/2020, 02:26 PM

It seems that cats of all kinds can get infected. There are reported cases of house cats being infected. And a group of tigers in a zoo showed symptoms and at least one tested positive for the virus.
So cat owners should be careful.

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Sk8r · 04/06/2020, 11:29 PM

No evidence, however, of transmission. As for fish, not at all likely. A virus is not a living thing in the sense that bacteria are. A virus is a glob of fat surrounding a dna or rna fragment that can self-replicate, and it can cause mayhem, but it's vulnerable to heat (140F) and to soap, especially oldfashioned Dawn. That's why handwashing is one of the most effective way to kill it. Soap breaks up fat and ---you can't say 'kills' for something that's not even a life-form---but ruins a virus, so it washes away in bits that won't reorganize; and heat melts it, with the same effect.

ThRoewer · 04/07/2020, 12:22 AM

If humans can infect cats and the infected cats actually show symptoms of Covid-19 then I would rather err on the side of caution and - until there is solid evidence to the contrary - assume that sick cats can also infect humans. Anything else would be reckless.
Keep in mind that it was first claimed that the transmission can only be from animal to human but not human to human - a claim that quickly turned out to be false.

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04/05/2020, 09:33 PM	#1
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ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	Fish-Tuberculosis (Mycobacterium) and Vibrio can infect humans. However, fish have no lungs and therefore I would think it is rather unlikely that they can carry the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Corals and inverts are even less likely. Also, saltwater has a certain sterilizing effect... __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/06/2020, 02:26 PM	#6
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	It seems that cats of all kinds can get infected. There are reported cases of house cats being infected. And a group of tigers in a zoo showed symptoms and at least one tested positive for the virus. So cat owners should be careful. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...

04/06/2020, 11:29 PM	#7
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	No evidence, however, of transmission. As for fish, not at all likely. A virus is not a living thing in the sense that bacteria are. A virus is a glob of fat surrounding a dna or rna fragment that can self-replicate, and it can cause mayhem, but it's vulnerable to heat (140F) and to soap, especially oldfashioned Dawn. That's why handwashing is one of the most effective way to kill it. Soap breaks up fat and ---you can't say 'kills' for something that's not even a life-form---but ruins a virus, so it washes away in bits that won't reorganize; and heat melts it, with the same effect. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

04/05/2020, 10:29 PM	#2
AdamSabina Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,426	Didn’t think about it. Seems unlikely with no host, but nice wet warm environment might mean day it can survive in the water?!?!? Maybe IDK. Any doctors want to chime in? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/07/2020, 12:22 AM	#8
ThRoewer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 9,555	If humans can infect cats and the infected cats actually show symptoms of Covid-19 then I would rather err on the side of caution and - until there is solid evidence to the contrary - assume that sick cats can also infect humans. Anything else would be reckless. Keep in mind that it was first claimed that the transmission can only be from animal to human but not human to human - a claim that quickly turned out to be false. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk __________________ Pairs: 4 percula, 3 P. kauderni, 3 D. excisus, 1 ea of P. diacanthus, S. splendidus, C. altivelis O. rosenblatti, D. janssi, S. yasha & a Gramma loreto trio 3 P. diacanthus. 2 C. starcki Current Tank Info: 200 gal 4 tank system (40x28x24 + 40B + 40B sump tank + 20g refugium) + 30x18x18 mixed reef + 20g East Pacific biotop + 20g FW +...