concrete live rock for walls and ledges - Page 13

karimwassef · 08/30/2014, 12:46 AM

Got the feedback from the chemistry forum.

karimwassef · 08/30/2014, 01:22 PM

Alk 12 dKH
Ca 400ppm
pH 8.3
Temp 77
Salinity 34ppm

Lavoisier · 08/30/2014, 04:20 PM

Yes! Well done!

karimwassef · 08/30/2014, 04:26 PM

Thanks. The trick was to be liberal with the Turbo Calcium and cut out all other additives. I was adding a very small dose based on the instructions. I ended up adding about 140 tbsp over 24hrs.

Alk 13 dKH
Ca 450ppm
pH 8.3
Temp 77
Salinity 34ppm

karimwassef · 08/31/2014, 12:09 PM

Lavoisier, the term I was looking for is abiotic - sorry for the confusion.

karimwassef · 09/03/2014, 06:53 PM

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Lavoisier · 09/04/2014, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karimwassef

Lavoisier, the term I was looking for is abiotic - sorry for the confusion.

Ah....yes. Many interesting articles on the subject. I thought Randy's article http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-06/rhf/ was helpful, but I will need to read it a couple of times to be sure!

karimwassef · 09/04/2014, 05:24 PM

Love that article!! Probably my favorite

karimwassef · 09/18/2014, 01:37 PM

Secure your rock work!

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Lavoisier · 09/19/2014, 04:39 PM

Wow! You're anemone and star are between the glass and the back of the rock work?! Talk about Murphy's law. I don't think I've ever heard of that happening.

karimwassef · 09/19/2014, 05:22 PM

I know. I have the cards stacked ...

They both got out and found friendlier hangouts. That's a rose bubbletip and should be very light loving. I think my MHs and LEDs are a little too much for these store kept animals.

Hotwired · 09/20/2014, 02:26 AM

Very nice. I may have to consider trying this myself

karimwassef · 09/28/2014, 01:32 PM

Working on seeding the tank with coralline. I filed a few pieces with a nail file and adding purple up to the mix.

Here's the result of a couple of hours of filing:

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The bottom is fluidized calcium powder. Not sure what's in the pink water above.

karimwassef · 09/28/2014, 01:34 PM

Next time, I'm going to sun cure the rock with coralline in the garden until it starts to encrust.

Lavoisier · 09/30/2014, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karimwassef

Working on seeding the tank with coralline. I filed a few pieces with a nail file and adding purple up to the mix.

Here's the result of a couple of hours of filing:

The bottom is fluidized calcium powder. Not sure what's in the pink water above.

Interesting, I'm curious as to how the coraline seeding works out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by karimwassef

Next time, I'm going to sun cure the rock with coralline in the garden until it starts to encrust.

That is a great idea!

karimwassef · 10/01/2014, 05:15 PM

Ok. Update time.

This looks like coralline forming under the hair algae?

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This is where I sprayed the mix. Not sure what it is though

karimwassef · 10/01/2014, 05:15 PM

That's my fabric concrete, by the way.

karimwassef · 10/01/2014, 05:16 PM

This shows fluffy white tunicates?

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karimwassef · 10/03/2014, 10:24 AM

So the pink "blotch" is starting to look more like coralline.

I tried a lot of things so I'm not sure which did it:

1. Crushing the coralline
2. Sanding the coralline
3. Adding PurpleUp
4. Used the pink fluid
5. Used the fluidized calcium from sanding
6. Dispersed at high flow
7. Deposited at low flow

If I could, I'd isolate each variable and test it in a controlled environment to determine what actually grew coralline and which was fastest.

Muller · 10/05/2014, 12:55 PM

I like how porous your looks. I did something very similar just over 2 years ago and it took about 6 months after seeding it to start noticing any coralline growth on the fake rock. Now it is well established. There were a lot of different cycles, just be patient.

karimwassef · 04/19/2015, 09:04 PM

I got green coralline to grow. But I've started planting corals

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CafeReef · 04/19/2015, 10:13 PM

Very interesting build, looks great

karimwassef · 04/19/2015, 11:54 PM

Thanks. I didn't think enough of how coral and live rock would influence the final result. If I had, I'd have made it all much thinner. Here's the day/night look

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karimwassef · 04/19/2015, 11:55 PM

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karimwassef · 05/05/2015, 09:48 PM

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08/30/2014, 04:20 PM	#303
Lavoisier Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 1,030	Yes! Well done! __________________ "...for it is not necessary that these hypotheses should be true, or even probably; but it is enough if they provide a calculus which fits the observations..."--Introduction (attributed to Andrew Osiander) to On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Sphere by Nicolaus Copernicus. Current Tank Info: 600g DT, 140g sump, 200g Cryptic, 90g Refugium, 3-400w MH, 2 Reeflo Barracudas, and 3 MP60s

09/19/2014, 04:39 PM	#310
Lavoisier Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 1,030	Wow! You're anemone and star are between the glass and the back of the rock work?! Talk about Murphy's law. I don't think I've ever heard of that happening. __________________ "...for it is not necessary that these hypotheses should be true, or even probably; but it is enough if they provide a calculus which fits the observations..."--Introduction (attributed to Andrew Osiander) to On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Sphere by Nicolaus Copernicus. Current Tank Info: 600g DT, 140g sump, 200g Cryptic, 90g Refugium, 3-400w MH, 2 Reeflo Barracudas, and 3 MP60s

10/01/2014, 05:15 PM	#316
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Ok. Update time. This looks like coralline forming under the hair algae? This is where I sprayed the mix. Not sure what it is though

04/19/2015, 10:13 PM	#322
CafeReef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Elkhorn, NE Posts: 1,405	Very interesting build, looks great __________________ 50 Gallon cube

08/30/2014, 12:46 AM	#301
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Got the feedback from the chemistry forum.

08/30/2014, 01:22 PM	#302
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Alk 12 dKH Ca 400ppm pH 8.3 Temp 77 Salinity 34ppm

08/30/2014, 04:26 PM	#304
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Thanks. The trick was to be liberal with the Turbo Calcium and cut out all other additives. I was adding a very small dose based on the instructions. I ended up adding about 140 tbsp over 24hrs. Alk 13 dKH Ca 450ppm pH 8.3 Temp 77 Salinity 34ppm

08/31/2014, 12:09 PM	#305
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Lavoisier, the term I was looking for is abiotic - sorry for the confusion.

09/03/2014, 06:53 PM	#306
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033

09/04/2014, 05:24 PM	#308
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Love that article!! Probably my favorite

09/18/2014, 01:37 PM	#309
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Secure your rock work!

09/19/2014, 05:22 PM	#311
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	I know. I have the cards stacked ... They both got out and found friendlier hangouts. That's a rose bubbletip and should be very light loving. I think my MHs and LEDs are a little too much for these store kept animals.

09/20/2014, 02:26 AM	#312
Hotwired Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 17	Very nice. I may have to consider trying this myself

09/28/2014, 01:32 PM	#313
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Working on seeding the tank with coralline. I filed a few pieces with a nail file and adding purple up to the mix. Here's the result of a couple of hours of filing: The bottom is fluidized calcium powder. Not sure what's in the pink water above.

09/28/2014, 01:34 PM	#314
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Next time, I'm going to sun cure the rock with coralline in the garden until it starts to encrust.

10/01/2014, 05:15 PM	#317
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	That's my fabric concrete, by the way.

10/01/2014, 05:16 PM	#318
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	This shows fluffy white tunicates?

10/03/2014, 10:24 AM	#319
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	So the pink "blotch" is starting to look more like coralline. I tried a lot of things so I'm not sure which did it: 1. Crushing the coralline 2. Sanding the coralline 3. Adding PurpleUp 4. Used the pink fluid 5. Used the fluidized calcium from sanding 6. Dispersed at high flow 7. Deposited at low flow If I could, I'd isolate each variable and test it in a controlled environment to determine what actually grew coralline and which was fastest.

10/05/2014, 12:55 PM	#320
Muller Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 60	I like how porous your looks. I did something very similar just over 2 years ago and it took about 6 months after seeding it to start noticing any coralline growth on the fake rock. Now it is well established. There were a lot of different cycles, just be patient.

04/19/2015, 09:04 PM	#321
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	I got green coralline to grow. But I've started planting corals

04/19/2015, 11:54 PM	#323
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Thanks. I didn't think enough of how coral and live rock would influence the final result. If I had, I'd have made it all much thinner. Here's the day/night look

04/19/2015, 11:55 PM	#324
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033

05/05/2015, 09:48 PM	#325
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033