Jebao DC vs DCT

scuzy · 11/03/2014, 11:51 AM

anyone know what the difference between the two besides one has a 10 setting controller?

scuzy · 11/04/2014, 12:10 AM

So boo one knows the difference

whit4fish · 11/06/2014, 10:46 PM

I just got one of each (shipping mistake) and once I get a chance to check them out I'll get back on here and let you know.

whit4fish · 11/13/2014, 07:10 PM

Sorry, still waiting to find the time to get these set up.

maddhugan · 12/16/2014, 09:25 PM

Ok, first I would like to tell you guys that it is not shipping mistake. They purposefully send out DCT instead of DC. May be because DCT may be their old stock or may be it is not selling as much as the DC one?

here is the difference between DC and DCT:
DC can be controlled with Neptune Apex after buying "Apex to Jebao" controller which they sell at fishstreet.com
Dc has 6 speed modes but DCT has 10 speed modes, DC 12000 doesnot have a strainer/filter at the suction end but the DCT 12000 has one.

But you can't control the DCT with Apex. I'm very angry, because I ordered 3 DC12000 but they sent me DCT 12000, When I asked for the exchange a guy named Eric is giving me problems. Very bad company, because you buy one thing and they purposefully send out something.
beware, don't get DCT and suffer like me. If you order DC they will try to send DCT to get rid of the old/defective stock.

oh207 · 12/17/2014, 10:22 AM

I thought the DCT are the newer models. I'm looking into getting one.

gcarroll · 12/17/2014, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddhugan

beware, don't get DCT and suffer like me. If you order DC they will try to send DCT to get rid of the old/defective stock.

A little harsh on the criticism ya think. Who are you to call the product old/defective? I mean, old/defective vs new/defective. It's all the same right. In the end you got the service and product you paid for.

ksed · 12/17/2014, 11:08 AM

I am surprised at how many people need to learn the hard way.

williewilliams · 12/17/2014, 12:06 PM

I have the DC pumps a 12000, 9000, and two 3000. All have been running for at least a year with no problems. The new orders for the DC12000 have the intake screen. I ordered extra replacement pumps for in case there is a future problem and all sizes came with them. The first round did not. I have had a good experience with them and the price was very good. I know others have not been so lucky.

Pprice01 · 03/04/2015, 08:55 AM

I just purchased the DCT-12000 on Amazon for $147. Haven't had a chance to use it yet but I thought that the "T" version was the new model.

Also, it's labeled that it is mfg by Jecod, and only a sticker on it identifies it as being made by Jecod/Jebao.

Anyone know if this is the same company?

ksed · 03/04/2015, 09:11 AM

Same company , changed names.

kmbyrnes · 03/05/2015, 04:42 PM

Mine arrives tonight. Will post results.

metzz71 · 08/23/2015, 07:50 AM

FWIW, I have been running the DCT-12000 since may 28th. Pump seems to be a good pump, however the power supply failed 2 days ago. I sent an email to Jebao asking to start the warranty replacement process.

crs751 · 08/30/2015, 06:39 PM

The DCT has all the electronics in the controller. It was the newer version until the new DCS that has a more efficient impeller.

devmasa · 08/30/2015, 09:23 PM

The DCT is the newer series. The DCT pumps have an upgraded controller with more control levels. They also claim that the newer series is more energy efficient.
Here are the differences :

DC series:

DCT series:

sleepydoc · 08/30/2015, 09:59 PM

Hmmm - not much to compare in that chart. the only DCT listed is the DCT-4000, which doesn't have a DC counterpart. All of the models that are the same have the same specs.

Reportedly many of the reliability problems in the older jebao pumps were controller related, so hopefully the new controller will also be more reliable, but time will tell. I was looking at a DC pump (jabao, waveline, etc) recently, but I really don't want to deal with warranty replacements, so I went with a Fluval instead.

karimwassef · 05/09/2016, 08:58 PM

Is it correct that the DC pump has the drive circuitry in the pump while the DCT has it in the controller?

I'm trying to vary the DCT output by varying the signal voltage level (like DC), but it looks like these pumps need a PWM signal to control speed?

Anyone aware of this?

FullBoreReefer · 05/09/2016, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karimwassef

Is it correct that the DC pump has the drive circuitry in the pump while the DCT has it in the controller?

I'm trying to vary the DCT output by varying the signal voltage level (like DC), but it looks like these pumps need a PWM signal to control speed?

Anyone aware of this?

This is exactly what I've heard as well

Sent you a PM also

karimwassef · 05/09/2016, 10:48 PM

It's possible to replicate a PWM signal if we know the requirements... voltage level, frequency, duty cycle that represents a specific voltage, etc...

FullBoreReefer · 05/10/2016, 05:17 AM

I found this at Neptune's forum, hope this is ok to post. They start talking about the dct model and the issue they are finding. Seems there has been a device added to stop 3rd part control. Not looking good...

https://forum.neptunesystems.com/sho...-harness/page8

11/03/2014, 11:51 AM	#1
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	Jebao DC vs DCT anyone know what the difference between the two besides one has a 10 setting controller?

12/16/2014, 09:25 PM	#5
maddhugan Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: San Jose Posts: 657	Jebao DC vs. DCT worst experience Ok, first I would like to tell you guys that it is not shipping mistake. They purposefully send out DCT instead of DC. May be because DCT may be their old stock or may be it is not selling as much as the DC one? here is the difference between DC and DCT: DC can be controlled with Neptune Apex after buying "Apex to Jebao" controller which they sell at fishstreet.com Dc has 6 speed modes but DCT has 10 speed modes, DC 12000 doesnot have a strainer/filter at the suction end but the DCT 12000 has one. But you can't control the DCT with Apex. I'm very angry, because I ordered 3 DC12000 but they sent me DCT 12000, When I asked for the exchange a guy named Eric is giving me problems. Very bad company, because you buy one thing and they purposefully send out something. beware, don't get DCT and suffer like me. If you order DC they will try to send DCT to get rid of the old/defective stock.

12/17/2014, 10:22 AM	#6
oh207 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Amityville, NY Posts: 762	I thought the DCT are the newer models. I'm looking into getting one. __________________ -oh207 Current Tank Info: DB 65g RR Tank, 30g Sump w sock & fuge, EHEIM 3000 Rtn. Pump, Araganite 40lbs, 40lbs base rock, 60lbs LR, EHEIM 150W Jager Heater, Ecotech MP40wES & MP10wES Vortech Propeller Pump, Ecotech Radion XR30w LED, Seaside Aquatics Protein Skimmer (CS7-150g)

12/17/2014, 12:06 PM	#9
williewilliams Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: southeastern, PA Posts: 334	I have the DC pumps a 12000, 9000, and two 3000. All have been running for at least a year with no problems. The new orders for the DC12000 have the intake screen. I ordered extra replacement pumps for in case there is a future problem and all sizes came with them. The first round did not. I have had a good experience with them and the price was very good. I know others have not been so lucky. __________________ Just enough fish to make the normal visitors understand why there is a big glass box of water and rock on display. Current Tank Info: 3 shallow rimless tanks. 2 full of sps and 1 with zoas/palys.

03/05/2015, 04:42 PM	#12
kmbyrnes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 2,055	Mine arrives tonight. Will post results. __________________ 125g Mixed Reef 5/26/2015; 350 Butterfly Dominated FOWLR 11/26/2015 - 11/17/20217 & 07/31/18 to ??? ; 100g Mixed Reef 11/16/2013 to 06/16/2017 Current Tank Info: Too small

11/04/2014, 12:10 AM	#2
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	So boo one knows the difference

11/06/2014, 10:46 PM	#3
whit4fish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 17	I just got one of each (shipping mistake) and once I get a chance to check them out I'll get back on here and let you know.

11/13/2014, 07:10 PM	#4
whit4fish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 17	Sorry, still waiting to find the time to get these set up.

12/17/2014, 11:08 AM	#8
ksed Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,867	I am surprised at how many people need to learn the hard way.

03/04/2015, 08:55 AM	#10
Pprice01 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 305	I just purchased the DCT-12000 on Amazon for $147. Haven't had a chance to use it yet but I thought that the "T" version was the new model. Also, it's labeled that it is mfg by Jecod, and only a sticker on it identifies it as being made by Jecod/Jebao. Anyone know if this is the same company?

03/04/2015, 09:11 AM	#11
ksed Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,867	Same company , changed names.

08/23/2015, 07:50 AM	#13
metzz71 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 44	FWIW, I have been running the DCT-12000 since may 28th. Pump seems to be a good pump, however the power supply failed 2 days ago. I sent an email to Jebao asking to start the warranty replacement process. __________________ 110g Display,90g acrylic converted to sump (20 ft from DT) Omega 130 skimmer, DC return pump Laing E1 autocirc for heating, MACT Web Controller

08/30/2015, 06:39 PM	#14
crs751 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 240	The DCT has all the electronics in the controller. It was the newer version until the new DCS that has a more efficient impeller.

08/30/2015, 09:23 PM	#15
devmasa Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 402	The DCT is the newer series. The DCT pumps have an upgraded controller with more control levels. They also claim that the newer series is more energy efficient. Here are the differences : DC series: DCT series:

08/30/2015, 09:59 PM	#16
sleepydoc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,907	Hmmm - not much to compare in that chart. the only DCT listed is the DCT-4000, which doesn't have a DC counterpart. All of the models that are the same have the same specs. Reportedly many of the reliability problems in the older jebao pumps were controller related, so hopefully the new controller will also be more reliable, but time will tell. I was looking at a DC pump (jabao, waveline, etc) recently, but I really don't want to deal with warranty replacements, so I went with a Fluval instead. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 120 gallon, coast to coast overflow w/beananimal overflow. Waveline DC 10000 II return pump, 40 gal sump, Octopus XS200 skimmer, T5 lighting

05/09/2016, 08:58 PM	#17
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	Is it correct that the DC pump has the drive circuitry in the pump while the DCT has it in the controller? I'm trying to vary the DCT output by varying the signal voltage level (like DC), but it looks like these pumps need a PWM signal to control speed? Anyone aware of this? __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

05/09/2016, 10:48 PM	#19
karimwassef Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 11,033	It's possible to replicate a PWM signal if we know the requirements... voltage level, frequency, duty cycle that represents a specific voltage, etc... __________________ Failure isn't an option It's a requirement. 660g 380inwall+280smp/surge S/L/Soft/Maxima/RBTA/Clown/Chromis/Anthias/Tang/Mandarin/Jawfish/Goby/Wrasse/D'back. DIY 12' Skimmer ActuatedSurge ConcreteScape

05/10/2016, 05:17 AM	#20
FullBoreReefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 1,862	I found this at Neptune's forum, hope this is ok to post. They start talking about the dct model and the issue they are finding. Seems there has been a device added to stop 3rd part control. Not looking good... https://forum.neptunesystems.com/sho...-harness/page8 __________________ 60x36x24 mixed reef. 40b sump. Regal 250int Varios. 4xHydra26HDs+t5s. 4xMp40wes. Apex2016.