Regal Angel Primer - Page 215

UncleSalt · 03/05/2017, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by albano

It's probably safe to assume that all of these juvi Regals came in with the same shipment and kept in the same holding system... Does that mean that there's a good chance that they're all infected?

I am certainly treating the one that comes in like it's infected. I'm just so bummed. I've always wanted a misbar and got lucky enough to get one....

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BigBlueTang · 03/05/2017, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleSalt

I am certainly treating the one that comes in like it's infected. I'm just so bummed. I've always wanted a misbar and got lucky enough to get one....

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Aw man. I am so sorry to hear this. Sorry I forgot to reply to your PM...

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Reef908 · 03/05/2017, 10:38 PM

Yeah I assume all fish has something since it's virtually impossible that they were not exposed at some point during their journey to our tanks (unless you got it sent direct from the collector maybe). Sorry for your loss! I always get so bummed when I lose a fish. Hopefully this next one comes in better for you.

scuzy · 03/05/2017, 10:54 PM

My regal went through formalin baths for 45 minutes, then ttm, prazi for during ttm and into qt for two weeks before there display. No issues here. It all depends on how healthy of a speciment you got and how healthy it is.

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pfan151 · 03/05/2017, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by albano

It's probably safe to assume that all of these juvi Regals came in with the same shipment and kept in the same holding system... Does that mean that there's a good chance that they're all infected?

I always assume every angel has flukes. I do a 45 min formalin bath on every angel on arrival and pazipro in the quarantine tanks. Mine still seems to be doing pretty well. It arrived last Tuesday. It's not eating as aggressively as I'd like but it is eating some mysis, clams, and mussels. No luck on pellets yet. I'm hoping it will join my other one in he next few weeks.

Question for those with pairs, did you set them up in an acclimation box when introducing them or just put them together and let the squabble for a bit. The current one I have in the tank is about 3.5-4 inches. The new one is about 3".

UncleSalt · 03/06/2017, 06:49 AM

Which formalin should I buy? When I google a bunch of results come up.

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BigBlueTang · 03/06/2017, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleSalt

Which formalin should I buy? When I google a bunch of results come up.

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I use formalin MS by fish vet.

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heuerfan · 03/06/2017, 09:49 AM

Update on my rs regal, i'm on week 3 and he is not eating. He shows interest in pellets and mysis, but only nipping at it. He came down with lymph the first week and I have since placed him in his own 20 gallon qt tank. The lymph seems to be clearing up, hopefully he will start eating soon. Will keep offering different food choices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-8iHNNTWdQ

pfan151 · 03/06/2017, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by heuerfan

Update on my rs regal, i'm on week 3 and he is not eating. He shows interest in pellets and mysis, but only nipping at it. He came down with lymph the first week and I have since placed him in his own 20 gallon qt tank. The lymph seems to be clearing up, hopefully he will start eating soon. Will keep offering different food choices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-8iHNNTWdQ

What types of food have you tried so far?

heuerfan · 03/06/2017, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pfan151

What types of food have you tried so far?

PE mysis, hikari mysis, brine shrimp, nori, nls spektrum pellets, formula two pellets, pe mysis pellets jsut to name a few

pfan151 · 03/06/2017, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by heuerfan

PE mysis, hikari mysis, brine shrimp, nori, nls spektrum pellets, formula two pellets, pe mysis pellets jsut to name a few

Go with a fresh clam, mussel, or oyster sliced open. They all seem to work pretty well to get them started.

alton · 03/06/2017, 11:17 AM

I hope this youtube video is okay to post, if not mods please remove
https://youtu.be/Po_dvEr5DL0
I have never lost a fish due to FW dip, but I have lost fish that I did not dip. I have had fish that looked stressed, and others who thought they where in Heaven.

Reef908 · 03/06/2017, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by heuerfan

PE mysis, hikari mysis, brine shrimp, nori, nls spektrum pellets, formula two pellets, pe mysis pellets jsut to name a few

+1 on the live littleneck clam. That's what got mine to eat. I also did a raw cocktail shrimp rubber banded to a piece of rock rubble that he liked too before going after pellets with gusto.

heuerfan · 03/06/2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alton

I hope this youtube video is okay to post, if not mods please remove
https://youtu.be/Po_dvEr5DL0
I have never lost a fish due to FW dip, but I have lost fish that I did not dip. I have had fish that looked stressed, and others who thought they where in Heaven.

If there are flukes then there maybe eggs, good idea to treat with a couple of rounds of prazi. I hate flukes.....

heuerfan · 03/06/2017, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Reef908

+1 on the live littleneck clam. That's what got mine to eat. I also did a raw cocktail shrimp rubber banded to a piece of rock rubble that he liked too before going after pellets with gusto.

Okay I will try this, thanks guys!

So if i'm lucky he eats the littleneck clams or cocktail shrimp how do you guys transition into pellets?

pfan151 · 03/06/2017, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by heuerfan

Okay I will try this, thanks guys!

So if i'm lucky he eats the littleneck clams or cocktail shrimp how do you guys transition into pellets?

So far for me with regals once they start eating something they usually quickly move to eating a better variety of foods.

Reef908 · 03/06/2017, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by heuerfan

Okay I will try this, thanks guys!

So if i'm lucky he eats the littleneck clams or cocktail shrimp how do you guys transition into pellets?

After a few meals of clam (one a day), then offered shrimp one day, then next day dropped in some thawed out mysis and spirulina gut loaded brine and he investigated and then ate it. Next day did frozen again but with some mega marine angel sponge frozen and he ate quicker. After a few days of this I tried some nls pellets and he ate those. Now I toss in a variety of things and he eats all. Any excess food I sucked out with a turkey baster. Took about a week to get him eating with gusto.

heuerfan · 03/06/2017, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Reef908

After a few meals of clam (one a day), then offered shrimp one day, then next day dropped in some thawed out mysis and spirulina gut loaded brine and he investigated and then ate it. Next day did frozen again but with some mega marine angel sponge frozen and he ate quicker. After a few days of this I tried some nls pellets and he ate those. Now I toss in a variety of things and he eats all. Any excess food I sucked out with a turkey baster. Took about a week to get him eating with gusto.

Thanks for the reply!

ThRoewer · 03/06/2017, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pfan151

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Question for those with pairs, did you set them up in an acclimation box when introducing them or just put them together and let the squabble for a bit. The current one I have in the tank is about 3.5-4 inches. The new one is about 3".

In my experience the ideal size difference is about one tailfin length. The smaller one should go first into the tank, the larger one can follow a few hours to a few days later.
In your case you will likely have to catch the larger one and put it in an acclimatization box for a few days while the new one settles into the tank.
I would also observe how they behave when they see each other. The smaller one should make submissive gestures. If they try to attack each other then the size difference may not be enough.

Some chasing is completely normal as long as it doesn't lead to serious injury. You usually can tell right away if it is just a short "get out of my way" chase or a prolonged "leave this tank or die" chase.
Some fin nipping may occur, but it should never be anything serious.

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UncleSalt · 03/06/2017, 06:21 PM

Okay - my new guy comes in tomorrow. I don't have formalin and no shops in the area have it - so I think we'll forgo it for now. It also appears to be hard on the fish if not done properly and having never used it.....well.

Anyways.

My thought was that he was originally going into a 10g QT with a few live rocks. He's just going to hang out there for awhile. I figured I would immediately dose Prazipro and let it do its thing, after 3 days, i'll do a 50% water change - let him rest for a day or 2, and then dose Prazipro again. After that, i'll just watch him for awhile. If he develops Ich, we'll work it out then. Thoughts?

pfan151 · 03/06/2017, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleSalt

Okay - my new guy comes in tomorrow. I don't have formalin and no shops in the area have it - so I think we'll forgo it for now. It also appears to be hard on the fish if not done properly and having never used it.....well.

Anyways.

My thought was that he was originally going into a 10g QT with a few live rocks. He's just going to hang out there for awhile. I figured I would immediately dose Prazipro and let it do its thing, after 3 days, i'll do a 50% water change - let him rest for a day or 2, and then dose Prazipro again. After that, i'll just watch him for awhile. If he develops Ich, we'll work it out then. Thoughts?

I'd definitely order formalin tonight. Formalin may have saved the last one.

pfan151 · 03/06/2017, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThRoewer

In my experience the ideal size difference is about one tailfin length. The smaller one should go first into the tank, the larger one can follow a few hours to a few days later.
In your case you will likely have to catch the larger one and put it in an acclimatization box for a few days while the new one settles into the tank.
I would also observe how they behave when they see each other. The smaller one should make submissive gestures. If they try to attack each other then the size difference may not be enough.

Some chasing is completely normal as long as it doesn't lead to serious injury. You usually can tell right away if it is just a short "get out of my way" chase or a prolonged "leave this tank or die" chase.
Some fin nipping may occur, but it should never be anything serious.

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Thanks. The current one should be pretty easy to catch. He waits at the top of the tank for food when I go anywhere near the tank. He has very large spines compared to the new one so I'm hoping the new one will know it's role pretty quick.

UncleSalt · 03/06/2017, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pfan151

I'd definitely order formalin tonight. Formalin may have saved the last one.

Is Paraguard the same thing? Everytime I search for "Formalin" it keeps coming up

pfan151 · 03/06/2017, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleSalt

Is Paraguard the same thing? Everytime I search for "Formalin" it keeps coming up

No.

BigBlueTang · 03/06/2017, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleSalt

Is Paraguard the same thing? Everytime I search for "Formalin" it keeps coming up

Formalin MS by Fishvet is what I, and many others use.

https://www.petsolutions.com/C/Exter...rmalin-MS.aspx

03/05/2017, 10:38 PM	#5353
Reef908 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Atlanta Posts: 224	Yeah I assume all fish has something since it's virtually impossible that they were not exposed at some point during their journey to our tanks (unless you got it sent direct from the collector maybe). Sorry for your loss! I always get so bummed when I lose a fish. Hopefully this next one comes in better for you. __________________ Tank: 180 Gallon Mixed Reef; Fish: Hoeven's Wrasse, Red Sea Regal Angel, spot breast angel, Green Wrasse, Juvi Aussie Harlequin Tusk, tangs: powder blue, desjardini, purple, tomini

03/05/2017, 10:54 PM	#5354
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	Regal Angel Primer My regal went through formalin baths for 45 minutes, then ttm, prazi for during ttm and into qt for two weeks before there display. No issues here. It all depends on how healthy of a speciment you got and how healthy it is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03/06/2017, 06:49 AM	#5356
UncleSalt Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 185	Which formalin should I buy? When I google a bunch of results come up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03/06/2017, 09:49 AM	#5358
heuerfan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Hyde Park Posts: 1,249	Update on my rs regal, i'm on week 3 and he is not eating. He shows interest in pellets and mysis, but only nipping at it. He came down with lymph the first week and I have since placed him in his own 20 gallon qt tank. The lymph seems to be clearing up, hopefully he will start eating soon. Will keep offering different food choices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-8iHNNTWdQ

03/06/2017, 11:17 AM	#5362
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	I hope this youtube video is okay to post, if not mods please remove https://youtu.be/Po_dvEr5DL0 I have never lost a fish due to FW dip, but I have lost fish that I did not dip. I have had fish that looked stressed, and others who thought they where in Heaven.

03/06/2017, 06:21 PM	#5370
UncleSalt Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 185	Okay - my new guy comes in tomorrow. I don't have formalin and no shops in the area have it - so I think we'll forgo it for now. It also appears to be hard on the fish if not done properly and having never used it.....well. Anyways. My thought was that he was originally going into a 10g QT with a few live rocks. He's just going to hang out there for awhile. I figured I would immediately dose Prazipro and let it do its thing, after 3 days, i'll do a 50% water change - let him rest for a day or 2, and then dose Prazipro again. After that, i'll just watch him for awhile. If he develops Ich, we'll work it out then. Thoughts?