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Did you see the Gp a few hours after they ate just LRF? If you just see the fish and don't live with them and constantly see them, I am not sure how you can say they are symptom free...there was also a discussion back then that, since some of the symptoms were minor, some people might not be able to identify signs of bloat... Remember, as stated, my Gp got it much less frequently and less severe then the others. All reported seeing it with Karen reporting it first.. Many different ingredients were considered with the probiotics and garlic looked at first but when we received stripped down version of LRF without those ingredients, the condition did not clear-up... when I spoke with Karen the other day, she mentioned perhaps it was the white fish... we also discussed some other fish and I recommended that Karen get some of Larry's new food with black worms, and she did (I wanted to send her live black worms but it is not allowed)...Larry mentioned that in his opus above...lol, yeah, I helped him again.... Last edited by humaguy; 03/15/2015 at 09:18 AM. Reason: typo |
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03/15/2015, 09:12 AM
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You are correct. I don't live with them, I don't possess any myself nor do/did I spend hours with them.
I was pointing only to the general health of the GPs I saw. Not in a bloated state, on a couple, random occasions. And yes... almost all good deeds, IME, end poorly... |
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03/15/2015, 09:29 AM
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I also use spir brine, plankton, Mysis, angel/butterfly blends, live brine/pods, nori, and fresh seafood... |
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03/15/2015, 09:30 AM
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03/15/2015, 09:32 AM
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03/15/2015, 10:14 AM
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bringing some beauty back to this thread....
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03/15/2015, 10:15 AM
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Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs |
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03/15/2015, 10:16 AM
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Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs |
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03/15/2015, 10:20 AM
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With that being said Ted has received deep discounts on food over the past couple of years was well as FREE LRS Swag, to include a Gp Polo shirt and most recently a food strainer via US mail which I sent unannounced. There has been free food mailed as well. I have always attempted to be gracious and show my gratitude in ways that I could. You were not "de-friended" because you asked for free food. You and I both know the reasons which were explained in an email exchange. I had been sending text and emails trying to have a meaningful conversation with you and catch up on details since December and you never answered the phone or texts with more than a "I'm too busy..." All the while you continued to see you uploading videos and pics to this thread so I had assumed you didn't desire any further contact. Lets agree to keep this thread directed to the nature of the fish and not drag our dirty laundry into the public arena.
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03/15/2015, 10:39 AM
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03/15/2015, 10:40 AM
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Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs |
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03/15/2015, 11:04 AM
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Koji was me, Lebanon was me, the GP story about your food saving the male was a spin I put on for your benefit (there was other food and info in play that helped the male) and I brought you into the Gp Project, nobody else was going to do that... the "free" shirt was totally my idea, I helped with the design and offered to pay half of all costs, you excluded me...I paid 20 per flat...and yes, I did stop taking calls from you because it was always about you...I am not the first person you have done this to... You started airing dirty laundry with the opus you posted on this form Larry, did I tell people you defriended me or stopped sending me food??? btw, who defriends people? wildly mature move...this forum is bout what works and what does not and your food definitely DOES not work for all fish.... I posted pics and details about the bloat LRF cause the GP and centropyge months ago and you didn't have a problem, now you do because back then you knew I would defend you, now, while I will still expound on the benefits of LRF, I also have no problems being totally honest... I suppose I should just flood fb with all the emails sent between us and others so the full story is revealed... How many people did you send those lousy strainers, balck towels, rubber bracelets to and how many did what I did for you??? Free swag??...I bought almost 300 dollars worth of swag from you the first time we spoke and you used to tell me I was your single biggest purchaser of your swag, btw, I ordered whiskey glasses with an indigo base, you sent clear base and never replaced with the indigo...but yes, you did send me a tiny black useless towel with your logo on it, some rubber bracelets- the same free stuff you send to all... What I did for you benefitted your company, your wallet, your family, and your reputation immensely... What you did for me was to send a totally useless free tiny black towel, useless rubber bracelets, and useless strainer....wouldn't food be the more useful and practical route to returning the love I was showing you and LRS?? I was doing so much for you, at one point you actually thought I was going to drop $15,000 on a Gp for you... Once you sent some fish roe, that was terrific and was something I could use.... I never received deep discounts people, ever...$20 as compared to $23, and I was buying hundreds of dollars of food at a time, a slight discount seems in order, no??? When you factor in what I did for you businesswise, you should have been sending me a few free packs a month.. I did received free food twice from you.... Once was just after the time I tossed 11 unopened flats due to the bloat issue and we thought it was a bad batch and btw, you sent 8 as a replacement, hmmm, do the math...then I asked you, yes people, I actually had to ask Larry to send me some free food as I was bending over backwards to push his food... but it was me asking, not you doing...and I believe you sent me 6-8 free packs then... Good luck, I will continue to plug your food while being totally honest at the same time... Last edited by humaguy; 03/15/2015 at 11:49 AM. Reason: typo |
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03/15/2015, 11:15 AM
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I really don't want this thread to get closed...
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03/15/2015, 11:34 AM
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at some point I will just post all the emails, between everybody involved.... I have every single bit of correspondence.... |
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03/15/2015, 11:35 AM
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This might be a good time to split the thread... Last edited by humaguy; 03/15/2015 at 11:41 AM. |
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He should def start a thread about LRF and bloat... |
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Hey Trig,
Thanks for the pm...similar happened to you... So, you know firsthand I am not crazy or lying... TK |
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Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs |
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03/15/2015, 02:16 PM
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Seeing the GPs grow and mature is absolutely awesome Ted, can't wait to hopefully see the transition to make in one of them! As for the other stuff, I hope it doesn't ruin the thread.
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03/15/2015, 02:21 PM
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The blue undertones in your GPs are very nice. It'll be so exciting when one starts converting to a male.
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It's funny, I have 2 pics that show what looks to be orange coming in on 1 of their pec fins, but, lol, I don't see it in person... |
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