Cool Fish on Diver's Den - Page 107

makers marc · 03/07/2018, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mknuwet

Anyone else see the flame wrasse go for $549 today? Holy smokes. That’s insane. And it sold!

Makes no sense tbh. Power of the brand name. Lots of other sites selling the same for $200+ cheaper

mitchrapp · 03/07/2018, 06:27 PM

Same thing for the bandit that went for $1599 the other day.

I think also there is the frenzy mentality of auctions/live sales, etc.

Mknuwet · 03/07/2018, 07:18 PM

Too bad I can ship my pair for $275.

paphater · 03/08/2018, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by makers marc

Makes no sense tbh. Power of the brand name. Lots of other sites selling the same for $200+ cheaper

I saw that and couldn't believe it. Not only did it sell it sold fast.

big mamma · 03/12/2018, 05:43 PM

i have a male and female pair that i have to sell due to down sizing. looks like a good time to sell !

LauraGreenImp · 03/13/2018, 09:38 AM

I don’t do auctions for *anything*, ever. Used to participate in art auctions (MANY yrs ago) - toxic atmosphere in general + I’m too competitive by nature.

W SW fish in particular, I’d much prefer to go through local hobbyist, *maybe* one ‘trusted’ lfs. I was less picky w my former Discus setups, but, imo, FW setups are easier to tear down and re-start. (QT always, oc)

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makers marc · 03/13/2018, 09:39 AM

There's another 575$ flame wrasse male on DD today for anyone interested lol

hogfanreefer · 03/13/2018, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by makers marc

There's another 575$ flame wrasse male on DD today for anyone interested lol

Makes my $180 transitioning female seem like a bargain....though I didn't think so when I bought it.

big mamma · 03/13/2018, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hogfanreefer

Makes my $180 transitioning female seem like a bargain....though I didn't think so when I bought it.

prices are now insane. i bought a bonded male and female last march and paid $250 for the pair at my lfs. i do have to get rid of them due to moving and downsizing.

pfan151 · 03/13/2018, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hogfanreefer

Makes my $180 transitioning female seem like a bargain....though I didn't think so when I bought it.

Ha. I got a small female last month for $150. I can be patient

alton · 03/14/2018, 04:51 AM

The Hawaiian Ban is causing havoc! Look at the Chevron Tangs, gone are the cute 2" and all that can be found are the 3" at $300 +, unless you want Xmas Island. By the way that is going there will be no more Hawaiian fish to be had!

OrionN · 03/14/2018, 07:46 AM

How soon does it take for fish to develop HLLE? I am under the impression that this is a chronic problem that developed over months.
I am not sure why newly caught fish develop HLLE like this one at DD?
Anybody know?

sacremon · 03/14/2018, 08:18 AM

I hadn't heard that the Hawaiian bill was made law. That might explain that DD Tinkeri that sold for ~$800. Good thing I am more interested in Red Sea fish. They are going to be cheaper in comparison

alton · 03/14/2018, 11:50 AM

Minh just like the BF I posted in #2630, DD is better than that to sell a fish that is not 100% healthy. The BF you posted is from the Maldives, which as most know have some of the best collection practices anywhere. The rules in place are the size of the net which makes smaller fish very difficult to collect. I am still not sure how they are catching a Flame Wrasse with a net that has 2" mesh?

McPuff · 03/15/2018, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OrionN

How soon does it take for fish to develop HLLE? I am under the impression that this is a chronic problem that developed over months.
I am not sure why newly caught fish develop HLLE like this one at DD?
Anybody know?

If you're considering a blueface I would call and ask about this fish. It seems very weird for one that small to have hlle... and I'm not sure I've ever seen an angel with that affliction before. HLLE does seem to take some time to develop and takes even longer for it to recover, if it ever does. My scopas tang developed a small amount of HLLE and it took about two years for it to almost entirely go away. LOTS of nori!

OrionN · 03/15/2018, 06:34 AM

I am not interested in this fish. Newly caught fish should not have HLLE.
There were several offer for sale recently, include a Coral Beauty yesterday with HLLE.
I was just wonder why they have fish with HLLE. The last fish I had with HLLE was back in the 1980's.

McPuff · 03/15/2018, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OrionN

I am not interested in this fish. Newly caught fish should not have HLLE.
There were several offer for sale recently, include a Coral Beauty yesterday with HLLE.
I was just wonder why they have fish with HLLE. The last fish I had with HLLE was back in the 1980's.

That is really strange. I agree, they should not be listed... or at the very least it should be explicitly pointed out and the price reduced.

alton · 03/15/2018, 12:57 PM

They list them as {Blemished}, I guess we just always expect DD to be perfect.

makers marc · 03/15/2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alton

They list them as {Blemished}, I guess we just always expect DD to be perfect.

Perfect may not be the right word, but I'm sure people expect more when you charge a large premium.

Mknuwet · 03/15/2018, 05:01 PM

If they’re using copper it can do this to some angels and tangs. I’ve had purple tangs start to develope HLLE within 2 weeks being in copper. But after treatment the usually get healed in a month or so of vitamin infused nori.
But yes DD should not be selling something like that

pfan151 · 03/15/2018, 05:53 PM

I just got a pair of Latz clowns in. One came in DOA. They only sell these as pairs and a single is pretty useless to me. They said they call the DD facility and see if they had anymore. Half credit doesn’t help so hopefully they come though for me. Really surprised it died. They shipped each fish in probably 3/4 a gallon of water. I was shocked at the size of the box for 2 one inch fish

alton · 03/16/2018, 04:55 AM

Anytime you move a fish there is always that chance of something bad happening, sorry for your loss. Water quantity is never an issue with DD, try receiving a 6" Blueface angel, my receiving area guys where impressed.

McPuff · 03/16/2018, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mknuwet

If they’re using copper it can do this to some angels and tangs. I’ve had purple tangs start to develope HLLE within 2 weeks being in copper. But after treatment the usually get healed in a month or so of vitamin infused nori.
But yes DD should not be selling something like that

They do use copper as part of their QT... unless the fish has sensitivity to it.

Dmorty217 · 03/16/2018, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mknuwet

If they’re using copper it can do this to some angels and tangs. I’ve had purple tangs start to develope HLLE within 2 weeks being in copper. But after treatment the usually get healed in a month or so of vitamin infused nori.
But yes DD should not be selling something like that

Same experience with copper and HLLE, the blue face appeared to have hole in the head that DD had.

saf1 · 03/16/2018, 08:00 AM

So is there a reliable source or the go-to place now for online ordering of fish? Over the next two months I'll be adding at least one tang of some sort to fit in a 210 gallon, regal, flame, and a host of smaller fish like various damsels and some royal gramma's. I just assumed LA/DD would be the go-to.

My local PetClub believe it or not has a awesome set up for saltwater fish so the smaller may be purchased there. They don't handle larger fish though so tangs or larger angels I'll have to go elsewhere.

03/13/2018, 09:38 AM	#2656
LauraGreenImp Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Nashville Posts: 131	I don’t do auctions for anything, ever. Used to participate in art auctions (MANY yrs ago) - toxic atmosphere in general + I’m too competitive by nature. W SW fish in particular, I’d much prefer to go through local hobbyist, maybe one ‘trusted’ lfs. I was less picky w my former Discus setups, but, imo, FW setups are easier to tear down and re-start. (QT always, oc) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro __________________ No glass box turns into a beautiful reef tank quickly. Current Tank Info: 150gT Mixed Reef - help me trap/remove/destroy my hateful Molly Miller Blennys!

03/13/2018, 09:39 AM	#2657
makers marc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 283	There's another 575$ flame wrasse male on DD today for anyone interested lol __________________ 75g SPS dominant (Ca= 400ppm, Mg = 1350ppm, Kh= 8.5dkh) 2xJebao wp25/Kessil Ap700/Kalk via Tunze ATO/GFO (6 tbsps every 2 wks); Carbon (6 tbsps per month)

03/14/2018, 08:18 AM	#2663
sacremon Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 446 Blog Entries: 29	I hadn't heard that the Hawaiian bill was made law. That might explain that DD Tinkeri that sold for ~$800. Good thing I am more interested in Red Sea fish. They are going to be cheaper in comparison __________________ 300DD, MRC MR-3 skimmer with dual Becketts, two Reefbreeders.com value LED fixtures, MRC fluidized reactor with GFO & GAC.

03/15/2018, 06:34 AM	#2666
OrionN Moved on Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Coastal Texas Posts: 16,000	I am not interested in this fish. Newly caught fish should not have HLLE. There were several offer for sale recently, include a Coral Beauty yesterday with HLLE. I was just wonder why they have fish with HLLE. The last fish I had with HLLE was back in the 1980's. __________________ Minh My homepage is my album here at Reef Central Current Tank Info: Reboot 320 anemones reef. Angels: Yellow Chest Regal(2), Flame (2). Copperband But. Tangs: Yellow, Purple. Wrasse: about 20 wrasses various species. Anemones: Giantea X4 (Breen, Blue, Purple and Multicolors), Haddoni X1 Red, Magnifica X1 Purpletip

03/16/2018, 08:00 AM	#2675
saf1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: California Posts: 2,259	So is there a reliable source or the go-to place now for online ordering of fish? Over the next two months I'll be adding at least one tang of some sort to fit in a 210 gallon, regal, flame, and a host of smaller fish like various damsels and some royal gramma's. I just assumed LA/DD would be the go-to. My local PetClub believe it or not has a awesome set up for saltwater fish so the smaller may be purchased there. They don't handle larger fish though so tangs or larger angels I'll have to go elsewhere. __________________ -saf1 Current Tank Info: 210 gallon mixed reef

03/07/2018, 06:27 PM	#2652
mitchrapp Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 297	Same thing for the bandit that went for $1599 the other day. I think also there is the frenzy mentality of auctions/live sales, etc.

03/07/2018, 07:18 PM	#2653
Mknuwet Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 88	Too bad I can ship my pair for $275.

03/12/2018, 05:43 PM	#2655
big mamma Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: west chester pa Posts: 137	i have a male and female pair that i have to sell due to down sizing. looks like a good time to sell !

03/14/2018, 04:51 AM	#2661
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	The Hawaiian Ban is causing havoc! Look at the Chevron Tangs, gone are the cute 2" and all that can be found are the 3" at $300 +, unless you want Xmas Island. By the way that is going there will be no more Hawaiian fish to be had!

03/14/2018, 11:50 AM	#2664
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	Minh just like the BF I posted in #2630, DD is better than that to sell a fish that is not 100% healthy. The BF you posted is from the Maldives, which as most know have some of the best collection practices anywhere. The rules in place are the size of the net which makes smaller fish very difficult to collect. I am still not sure how they are catching a Flame Wrasse with a net that has 2" mesh?

03/15/2018, 12:57 PM	#2668
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	They list them as {Blemished}, I guess we just always expect DD to be perfect.

03/15/2018, 05:01 PM	#2670
Mknuwet Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 88	If they’re using copper it can do this to some angels and tangs. I’ve had purple tangs start to develope HLLE within 2 weeks being in copper. But after treatment the usually get healed in a month or so of vitamin infused nori. But yes DD should not be selling something like that

03/15/2018, 05:53 PM	#2671
pfan151 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL Posts: 1,897	I just got a pair of Latz clowns in. One came in DOA. They only sell these as pairs and a single is pretty useless to me. They said they call the DD facility and see if they had anymore. Half credit doesn’t help so hopefully they come though for me. Really surprised it died. They shipped each fish in probably 3/4 a gallon of water. I was shocked at the size of the box for 2 one inch fish

03/16/2018, 04:55 AM	#2672
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	Anytime you move a fish there is always that chance of something bad happening, sorry for your loss. Water quantity is never an issue with DD, try receiving a 6" Blueface angel, my receiving area guys where impressed.