Montipora Eatting Nudibranchs

Shawnts106 · 05/09/2007, 04:07 PM

How many of you have had them?
How did you find is the best way to get rid of them?

Precautions?

advise?

I have heard alot about them.. and want to know exactly what to do in the event the "pop up"..

thanks

acrodave · 05/09/2007, 04:17 PM

they suck!! u have to find them and then u have to find any eggs they left

Shawnts106 · 05/09/2007, 04:27 PM

What can you do with the eggs? I thought that Nudibranch eggs where not permiable?

RobSW1 · 05/09/2007, 04:52 PM

had them, dipped in every possible dip, pulled out tweezers and pulled them off, but they are nearly impossible to beat....i ended up throwing the three montis i had in the trash. The easiest way to beat them is to not get them........and if you happen to find them in the tank, solve your problem, and dont get montis for at least two months..

flyyyguy · 05/09/2007, 10:23 PM

I have fairly recently had them and eventually lost every monti in the tank.

Thank God it was my small tank. Still lost a few sweet ones though.

In another couple of months i will start adding again.

SDguy · 05/09/2007, 11:24 PM

I've never had them. I've always soaked all new montis in Lugols for 15 minutes and brushed with a toothbrush all non skeleton areas just in case of eggs. So far, so good.

twon8 · 05/10/2007, 01:04 AM

if you see them i would pull every monti out of the system, set up qt tank, and dip repeatadly

drifty · 05/10/2007, 01:48 AM

I put a bananna wrasse in my tank, havent seen any for 6 months. I have a separate frag tank that the nudi's made an appearance in lately so the wrasse is definately keeping the numbers down in my main tank

Shawnts106 · 05/10/2007, 06:01 PM

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I've never had them. I've always soaked all new montis in Lugols for 15 minutes and brushed with a toothbrush all non skeleton areas just in case of eggs. So far, so good.

I like the toothbrush thing... however I doubt the Iodine has any effect on the Nudis... as the eggs are not permiable to any substances that I know of... someone correct me if im wrong.

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I put a bananna wrasse in my tank, havent seen any for 6 months.

That is an interesting idea/discovery....

Id like to try this.. how big is your bananna?

drifty · 05/10/2007, 06:13 PM

7cm or around 2.5 inches

Solitaryensis · 05/10/2007, 09:46 PM

I thought i eradicated them about 6 months ago after doing repeated dips in TMCP but for some reason they began showing up again and i have not added any montis since. I might have gotten it from someone else, although i try and dip eveything i get. So, IME, TMCPP works really well for these guys.

Anyone else have the same experience? Thought they were gone and they came back a couple months later?

fishyvet · 05/10/2007, 09:51 PM

Iodine seems to make the adults fall off but does nothing to the eggs. I beat them by dipping my monti about every other day in iodine. I guess eventually I broke the life cycle. If I had known what I do now about the little buggers I probably would have chucked the monti... I count myself very lucky to have beaten them (I've been nudi free for 8+ months now)

reefkoi · 05/10/2007, 10:29 PM

I had them, ended up throwing away the colony they came in on. Luckily I saw them right away and that was months ago, crossing my fingers I got them all, there was what i believe to be an egg sack under the colony that I sucked off ( sorry I can't think of another way to say that

)with some tubing.
They are bad and I now dip everything in TMPCC even clams, no problems with that stuff or parasites yet.

SERVO · 05/10/2007, 10:34 PM

I had them and lost a Monti the size of a large pizza. I slowly manually picked them off of another Monti and I haven't had a problem in about 9 months. I was lucky!!!!

Bloke · 05/11/2007, 12:32 AM

SWEET! Any pics of it happening?

burton14e7 · 05/11/2007, 02:52 PM

I've been super glueing them in place.

flyyyguy · 05/11/2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Bloke
SWEET! Any pics of it happening?

I dont know how swee it is

...but heres a coupla pics of mine

jwre · 05/12/2007, 01:45 PM

This is what they are doing to one of my favourite colony's

This is what is hopefully going to help me keep them under control. I have heard that once you have them you will never completely loose them.

flyyyguy · 05/12/2007, 02:04 PM

What kind of wrasse is that??

jwre · 05/12/2007, 02:23 PM

It is Halichoeres irides, .... rainbow wrasse ?

highquality · 05/12/2007, 03:26 PM

Oh its painfull to see in that pic. those eggs are heartbreaking. might as well chuck a piece like that and start a 2 1/2 month monti free period

jwre · 05/13/2007, 12:51 PM

I saw today that the coral banded shrimps were feasting on the monti eating nudi's !!!

jjmcat · 05/13/2007, 01:26 PM

Well I found them today and now I know whats been going on with my monties.Ive lost alot of money with these darn buggers.I just found them on my green base orange poly digi.Ive got 3 montis with no signs of damage on them so im off to the lfs to get some reef dip.I just cant seem to figure out where these nudis came from.I have not placed any new untreated monties in my tank for months.To date ive lost 2 rainbow monties,1 superman montie,2 german blue monties,2 pink base orange polyp monties,1 yellow with blue polyp montie and my elkhorn montie.All this makes me wonder the time it takes their eggs to hatch.

justinzimm · 05/13/2007, 03:04 PM

jwre,

I saw your tank when I was in Amsterdam for the coral husbandry symposium. I was with Joe Y, and we stopped by to check it out. Very nice tank! Took lots of pictures. To bad we couldn't meet up with you.

We noticed the nudis right away. What is the species of the monti they are on? Confusa??

justin

mjcarl · 05/13/2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by justinzimm
jwre,

I saw your tank when I was in Amsterdam for the coral husbandry symposium. I was with Joe Y, and we stopped by to check it out. Very nice tank! Took lots of pictures. To bad we couldn't meet up with you.

We noticed the nudis right away. What is the species of the monti they are on? Confusa??

justin

What's this "we" crap and why do you only drop Joe's name?

Mitch

05/09/2007, 04:07 PM	#1
Shawnts106 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,436	Montipora Eatting Nudibranchs How many of you have had them? How did you find is the best way to get rid of them? Precautions? advise? I have heard alot about them.. and want to know exactly what to do in the event the "pop up".. thanks __________________ Love yourself! NO MATTER WHAT! Current Tank Info: Currently out of the hobby

05/09/2007, 04:17 PM	#2
acrodave REEF NERD Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: maryville tn-- work in knoxville Posts: 4,187	they suck!! u have to find them and then u have to find any eggs they left __________________ Peace,Dave Superman puts on Tim Tebow pajamas when he goes to bed The Heisman as a sophomore nuff said Less technology more biology Tattoos are the only art you can take to the grave Current Tank Info: 26gal bow,20gal mantis tank/fuge150wHQI,20k AB Seio 620 maxijet1200x's 2 on a wave maker. all sps

05/09/2007, 04:27 PM	#3
Shawnts106 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,436	What can you do with the eggs? I thought that Nudibranch eggs where not permiable? __________________ Love yourself! NO MATTER WHAT! Current Tank Info: Currently out of the hobby

05/09/2007, 10:23 PM	#5
flyyyguy King of the white corals Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,239	I have fairly recently had them and eventually lost every monti in the tank. Thank God it was my small tank. Still lost a few sweet ones though. In another couple of months i will start adding again. __________________ I like holding hands, snuggling, and long walks on the beach

05/09/2007, 11:24 PM	#6
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	I've never had them. I've always soaked all new montis in Lugols for 15 minutes and brushed with a toothbrush all non skeleton areas just in case of eggs. So far, so good. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

05/09/2007, 04:52 PM	#4
RobSW1 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tallahassee, Florida FSU Posts: 244	had them, dipped in every possible dip, pulled out tweezers and pulled them off, but they are nearly impossible to beat....i ended up throwing the three montis i had in the trash. The easiest way to beat them is to not get them........and if you happen to find them in the tank, solve your problem, and dont get montis for at least two months..

05/10/2007, 01:04 AM	#7
twon8 Formally registered membe Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: slightly sw of richmond, va Posts: 5,920	if you see them i would pull every monti out of the system, set up qt tank, and dip repeatadly __________________ Anthony Richmond Reef Club "and as things fell apart, nobody paid much attention." Not building a wall but making a brick Current Tank Info: 300g DD display, 60g frag tank

05/10/2007, 01:48 AM	#8
drifty Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 40	I put a bananna wrasse in my tank, havent seen any for 6 months. I have a separate frag tank that the nudi's made an appearance in lately so the wrasse is definately keeping the numbers down in my main tank

05/10/2007, 06:13 PM	#10
drifty Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 40	7cm or around 2.5 inches

05/10/2007, 09:46 PM	#11
Solitaryensis Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Cali. Bay Area Posts: 1,669	I thought i eradicated them about 6 months ago after doing repeated dips in TMCP but for some reason they began showing up again and i have not added any montis since. I might have gotten it from someone else, although i try and dip eveything i get. So, IME, TMCPP works really well for these guys. Anyone else have the same experience? Thought they were gone and they came back a couple months later?

05/10/2007, 09:51 PM	#12
fishyvet Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville FL Posts: 463	Iodine seems to make the adults fall off but does nothing to the eggs. I beat them by dipping my monti about every other day in iodine. I guess eventually I broke the life cycle. If I had known what I do now about the little buggers I probably would have chucked the monti... I count myself very lucky to have beaten them (I've been nudi free for 8+ months now)

05/10/2007, 10:29 PM	#13
reefkoi Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,983	I had them, ended up throwing away the colony they came in on. Luckily I saw them right away and that was months ago, crossing my fingers I got them all, there was what i believe to be an egg sack under the colony that I sucked off ( sorry I can't think of another way to say that )with some tubing. They are bad and I now dip everything in TMPCC even clams, no problems with that stuff or parasites yet. __________________ 1Kw bulb club Current Tank Info: A 600gal. on Zeovit & a 240gal.

05/10/2007, 10:34 PM	#14
SERVO Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Keller, TX Posts: 1,305	I had them and lost a Monti the size of a large pizza. I slowly manually picked them off of another Monti and I haven't had a problem in about 9 months. I was lucky!!!!

05/11/2007, 12:32 AM	#15
Bloke Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 424	SWEET! Any pics of it happening?

05/11/2007, 02:52 PM	#16
burton14e7 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Keller, Tx Posts: 2,009	I've been super glueing them in place. __________________ Go Lakers! Current Tank Info: Currently awaiting relapse.

05/12/2007, 01:45 PM	#18
jwre Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Amsterdam, Holland Posts: 267	This is what they are doing to one of my favourite colony's This is what is hopefully going to help me keep them under control. I have heard that once you have them you will never completely loose them. __________________ Peace Love Freedom Forever Current Tank Info: 250x70x70 cm, 4 x Tunze 12.000 liter, 2 ATI power module ( 16 x 54 Watt ) with Korallen Zucht tubes ( coral light 12 x and purple fiji 4 x), Bubble King mini 200 , calcium reactor, Aquamedic cooler, Zeo reactor 5 liter rocks, Phyto reactor 20 l

05/12/2007, 02:04 PM	#19
flyyyguy King of the white corals Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,239	What kind of wrasse is that?? __________________ I like holding hands, snuggling, and long walks on the beach

05/12/2007, 02:23 PM	#20
jwre Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Amsterdam, Holland Posts: 267	It is Halichoeres irides, .... rainbow wrasse ? __________________ Peace Love Freedom Forever Current Tank Info: 250x70x70 cm, 4 x Tunze 12.000 liter, 2 ATI power module ( 16 x 54 Watt ) with Korallen Zucht tubes ( coral light 12 x and purple fiji 4 x), Bubble King mini 200 , calcium reactor, Aquamedic cooler, Zeo reactor 5 liter rocks, Phyto reactor 20 l

05/12/2007, 03:26 PM	#21
highquality Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: n.c. Posts: 550	Oh its painfull to see in that pic. those eggs are heartbreaking. might as well chuck a piece like that and start a 2 1/2 month monti free period __________________ " If you can touch people with wildlife, then they want to save it." Steve Irwin Current Tank Info: One of my tanks is a 50 gallon Mini Reef - 250 wt 20k on a PFO mag. ballast - a 250 wt krystal star 11k on a dynamic E-ballast - ASM G2 1/2 skimmer -TLF phosban reactor with 1 1/2 carbon in it -

05/13/2007, 12:51 PM	#22
jwre Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Amsterdam, Holland Posts: 267	I saw today that the coral banded shrimps were feasting on the monti eating nudi's !!! __________________ Peace Love Freedom Forever Current Tank Info: 250x70x70 cm, 4 x Tunze 12.000 liter, 2 ATI power module ( 16 x 54 Watt ) with Korallen Zucht tubes ( coral light 12 x and purple fiji 4 x), Bubble King mini 200 , calcium reactor, Aquamedic cooler, Zeo reactor 5 liter rocks, Phyto reactor 20 l

05/13/2007, 01:26 PM	#23
jjmcat Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tulsa Posts: 4,249	Well I found them today and now I know whats been going on with my monties.Ive lost alot of money with these darn buggers.I just found them on my green base orange poly digi.Ive got 3 montis with no signs of damage on them so im off to the lfs to get some reef dip.I just cant seem to figure out where these nudis came from.I have not placed any new untreated monties in my tank for months.To date ive lost 2 rainbow monties,1 superman montie,2 german blue monties,2 pink base orange polyp monties,1 yellow with blue polyp montie and my elkhorn montie.All this makes me wonder the time it takes their eggs to hatch. __________________ Oklahoma Marine and Aquarium Society Support your LFS and your local club. Jarrod Lee Current Tank Info: 110 reef with a 55 gallon sump,3 metal halides

05/13/2007, 03:04 PM	#24
justinzimm Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 427	jwre, I saw your tank when I was in Amsterdam for the coral husbandry symposium. I was with Joe Y, and we stopped by to check it out. Very nice tank! Took lots of pictures. To bad we couldn't meet up with you. We noticed the nudis right away. What is the species of the monti they are on? Confusa?? justin